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  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,614 Swaye's Wigwam
    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    That's weird. I'm hearing he's sneaky athletic.

    Just what I'm hearing, don't twist.
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,614 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    That's weird. I'm hearing he's sneaky athletic.

    Just what I'm hearing, don't twist.
    Hi Kim. Come over from Dawgman to see where more/all your subscribers went again?




  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    godawgst said:

    dnc said:

    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    That's weird. I'm hearing he's sneaky athletic.

    Just what I'm hearing, don't twist.
    Hi Kim. Come over from Dawgman to see where more/all your subscribers went again?




    Whooooooosh
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    I have been a proponent of running QB’s in CFB for awhile. A statue type like Eason definitely hurts an offense.

    Sam is a good athlete. He’s not a statue at all. A left handed Joe Burrow is his ceiling.

    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    I have been a proponent of running QB’s in CFB for awhile. A statue type like Eason definitely hurts an offense.

    Sam is a good athlete. He’s not a statue at all. A left handed Joe Burrow is his ceiling.
    This is the right comp
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,851 Swaye's Wigwam
    Donovan's offense can work and will if the QB and receivers don't leave plays on the field. We've seen that guys can get open. We know a couple of them have the talent to make something happen if they catch the ball.

    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    I have been a proponent of running QB’s in CFB for awhile. A statue type like Eason definitely hurts an offense.

    Sam is a good athlete. He’s not a statue at all. A left handed Joe Burrow is his ceiling.
    No way he can be called an average athlete. Average, 6'1" white kids don't dunk as sph or Juniors in high school. His speed and athletic ability are probably average across the range of QBs at this level, but that's more than good enough for a pass first QB.

    This guy was well below average athletically but was still an effective scrambler. Huard could run circles around him.https://youtu.be/0ZvSLBIprHs
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    Only to see Sam Huard enter the portal after the 2022 season

    To Oregon?
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,382
    chuck said:

    Donovan's offense can work and will if the QB and receivers don't leave plays on the field. We've seen that guys can get open. We know a couple of them have the talent to make something happen if they catch the ball.

    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    I have been a proponent of running QB’s in CFB for awhile. A statue type like Eason definitely hurts an offense.

    Sam is a good athlete. He’s not a statue at all. A left handed Joe Burrow is his ceiling.
    No way he can be called an average athlete. Average, 6'1" white kids don't dunk as sph or Juniors in high school. His speed and athletic ability are probably average across the range of QBs at this level, but that's more than good enough for a pass first QB.

    This guy was well below average athletically but was still an effective scrambler. Huard could run circles around him.https://youtu.be/0ZvSLBIprHs
    There's an average HS athlete and there's an average athlete for a college QB. Big difference. His athleticism will play up because of his elite accuracy and field awareness. You won't see him at the top of the conference for his running ability or agility in space.

    Keith Price was a plus athlete before his injury.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,851 Swaye's Wigwam
    Baseman said:

    chuck said:

    Donovan's offense can work and will if the QB and receivers don't leave plays on the field. We've seen that guys can get open. We know a couple of them have the talent to make something happen if they catch the ball.

    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    I have been a proponent of running QB’s in CFB for awhile. A statue type like Eason definitely hurts an offense.

    Sam is a good athlete. He’s not a statue at all. A left handed Joe Burrow is his ceiling.
    No way he can be called an average athlete. Average, 6'1" white kids don't dunk as sph or Juniors in high school. His speed and athletic ability are probably average across the range of QBs at this level, but that's more than good enough for a pass first QB.

    This guy was well below average athletically but was still an effective scrambler. Huard could run circles around him.https://youtu.be/0ZvSLBIprHs
    There's an average HS athlete and there's an average athlete for a college QB. Big difference. His athleticism will play up because of his elite accuracy and field awareness. You won't see him at the top of the conference for his running ability or agility in space.

    Keith Price was a plus athlete before his injury.
    Didn't realize I was double quoting some aborted, late night, stoned reply. Oops.

    I disagree on price. That's what we all thought, but he was pretty slow from the beginning. Clever as shit with the ball though.

    I expect Huard to get 7-8 yards when it's right there for the taking. We've had supposedly athletic QBs who couldn't do that (Pickett supposedly ran faster than Tui, but couldn't get 10 yards if half the defense was laying down, for example). Stanback had legit sprinter speed and busted a few, but also had a gift for turning potentially big runs for a guy with his speed into modest gains.

    If Huard can outrun a lineman and has the presence to know when and where to run, I have zero concerns about his speed.