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The Best QB-WR duos in Husky Football history
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Cody Pickett - Reggie Williams
Why do you hate Lambright recruits?DerekJohnson said:I was never a big Cody Pickett fan.
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Billy Joe Hobert - Mario Bailey
Me eitherDerekJohnson said:I was never a big Cody Pickett fan.
He seemed like the ultimate QB with good skills and athletic ability who had a mediocre record. Having paid for and sat through the 2003 Nevaduh game in the rain, plus the $C game, you can't just use the lack of a running game and coaching as excuses. -
The Field
My enduring image of Pickett was his running out of bounds on 4th down at the end of the Holiday Bowl. Only chance Huskies had, and admittedly it was a small one, was for him to chuck it down the field. And what does he do? Run out of bounds, game over. Dumbass.whlinder said:
For sure. Always wondered what happened to his senior year when he regressed. The whole firing Rick in the summer was bad for the team but I've never understood how it made Cody so much worse as a QB. He surely would have jumped to the draft before his senior year if he had known what was coming.Doogles said:
I think Pickett is probably the most underrated QB to go through UW. Talent wise, a healthy Pickett is arguably better than both those guys. A true what could have been guy IMO.
The other thing with Pickett was how much of the mental side of the game he got. Someone with his talent (not quite as athletic as pre-knee surgery Brunell or Locker but a much better passer) should have done better in the NFL.
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Invalid poll.
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Billy Joe Hobert - Mario Bailey
There is no way to know. What I do know is Hobert to Bailey was much more efficient than Picket to Williams. At the same time, Picket and Williams should not be punished for having a much worse OL, and an almost non existent running game while the 91 team had a great OL and strong running game.Dardanus said:
Are you saying that if you put Hobert-Bailey on the 2002 or 2003 teams, they would have had more production than Pickett-Williams?RoadDawg55 said:Hobert to Bailey. The 91 team was a running team which limited their opportunities. Bailey and Hobert weren't even playing in the 4th quarter in half the games either. Picket to Williams aired the ball out almost every play. Completely different offenses.
In 91, Mario Bailey had 62 receptions 1037 yards and 17 TD's. Hobert completed 173 passes for 2271yards and 22 TD's. Bailey accounted for 36% of the completed passes, 46% of the yards, and 77% of the TD's.
In 2002, Reggie had 94 receptions for 1454 yards and 11 TD's. Picket completed 365 passes for 4458 yards and 28 TD's. Reggie accounted for 26% of the completed passes, 33% of the yards, and 39% of the TD's.
I know these percentages aren't the end all, be all, but it shows how stats can skew judgment. The 2002 team threw the ball more than twice as often as the 91 team did. Hobert attempted only 285 passes in 1991. Picket attempted 612 in 2002! Like I said bfore, these were completely different offenses. -
Cody Pickett - Reggie Williams
Good poont re: the efficiency of Hobert-Bailey. As you said, too many other factors to really know for sure. Running game, OL, coaching, and threat of other receivers all matter but are impossible to measure in the stats. I had forgotten that Mario had so many TDs though, which is a great argument in itself.RoadDawg55 said:
There is no way to know. What I do know is Hobert to Bailey was much more efficient than Picket to Williams. At the same time, Picket and Williams should not be punished for having a much worse OL, and an almost non existent running game while the 91 team had a great OL and strong running game.Dardanus said:
Are you saying that if you put Hobert-Bailey on the 2002 or 2003 teams, they would have had more production than Pickett-Williams?RoadDawg55 said:Hobert to Bailey. The 91 team was a running team which limited their opportunities. Bailey and Hobert weren't even playing in the 4th quarter in half the games either. Picket to Williams aired the ball out almost every play. Completely different offenses.
In 91, Mario Bailey had 62 receptions 1037 yards and 17 TD's. Hobert completed 173 passes for 2271yards and 22 TD's. Bailey accounted for 36% of the completed passes, 46% of the yards, and 77% of the TD's.
In 2002, Reggie had 94 receptions for 1454 yards and 11 TD's. Picket completed 365 passes for 4458 yards and 28 TD's. Reggie accounted for 26% of the completed passes, 33% of the yards, and 39% of the TD's.
I know these percentages aren't the end all, be all, but it shows how stats can skew judgment. The 2002 team threw the ball more than twice as often as the 91 team did. Hobert attempted only 285 passes in 1991. Picket attempted 612 in 2002! Like I said bfore, these were completely different offenses.
Side story: when Reggie Williams was a freshman and showed up for his first practice, he told the rest of the team he was the best athlete on the field. In response to this claim, the seniors taped him to the goalpoast and shaved his eyebrows.
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Cody Pickett - Reggie WilliamsIf you're drafting the all time wr, it has to be Reggie though, even if the Bailey/Hobert/Brunell trio was 'more valuable'.
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Nevaduh and $C!! ROFL!1!!!!!!Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Me eitherDerekJohnson said:I was never a big Cody Pickett fan.
He seemed like the ultimate QB with good skills and athletic ability who had a mediocre record. Having paid for and sat through the 2003 Nevaduh game in the rain, plus the $C game, you can't just use the lack of a running game and coaching as excuses. -
Billy Joe Hobert - Mario BaileyRW was the most talented WR and played in a pass heavy offense, yet he disappeared in a bunch of games where we needed someone to make a play (twice against UCLA, Purdue in the El Paso bowl come to mind). He tore up WSU and Oregon which was pretty big, but I still remember frequently wondering where the fuck he had disappeared to.
Bailey seemed to always make something happen when it was needed. He also played in a run oriented offense and still put up big numbers. Bailey/Hobert/Brunell wins. Not by a landslide but comfortably. -
Say 34-17?chuck said:RW was the most talented WR and played in a pass heavy offense, yet he disappeared in a bunch of games where we needed someone to make a play (twice against UCLA, Purdue in the El Paso bowl come to mind). He tore up WSU and Oregon which was pretty big, but I still remember frequently wondering where the fuck he had disappeared to.
Bailey seemed to always make something happen when it was needed. He also played in a run oriented offense and still put up big numbers. Bailey/Hobert/Brunell wins. Not by a landslide but comfortably. -
Billy Joe Hobert - Mario Bailey
Yes rather comfortably.MikeDamone said:
Say 34-17?chuck said:RW was the most talented WR and played in a pass heavy offense, yet he disappeared in a bunch of games where we needed someone to make a play (twice against UCLA, Purdue in the El Paso bowl come to mind). He tore up WSU and Oregon which was pretty big, but I still remember frequently wondering where the fuck he had disappeared to.
Bailey seemed to always make something happen when it was needed. He also played in a run oriented offense and still put up big numbers. Bailey/Hobert/Brunell wins. Not by a landslide but comfortably. -
Billy Joe Hobert - Mario BaileyWrite in vote:
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Cody Pickett - Reggie Williams
Rick also quit running the option after Pickett's shoulder got jacked. Cody wasn't Tui but he could run it.HuskyJW said:Cody had an absolute cannon before that shoulder separation/surgery. His ball was never the same after that.
whlinder said:
For sure. Always wondered what happened to his senior year when he regressed. The whole firing Rick in the summer was bad for the team but I've never understood how it made Cody so much worse as a QB. He surely would have jumped to the draft before his senior year if he had known what was coming.Doogles said:
I think Pickett is probably the most underrated QB to go through UW. Talent wise, a healthy Pickett is arguably better than both those guys. A true what could have been guy IMO.
The other thing with Pickett was how much of the mental side of the game he got. Someone with his talent (not quite as athletic as pre-knee surgery Brunell or Locker but a much better passer) should have done better in the NFL.
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Billy Joe Hobert - Mario Bailey
Not just different offenses, but also Hobert/Bailey rarely played much in the second half of games.RoadDawg55 said:
There is no way to know. What I do know is Hobert to Bailey was much more efficient than Picket to Williams. At the same time, Picket and Williams should not be punished for having a much worse OL, and an almost non existent running game while the 91 team had a great OL and strong running game.Dardanus said:
Are you saying that if you put Hobert-Bailey on the 2002 or 2003 teams, they would have had more production than Pickett-Williams?RoadDawg55 said:Hobert to Bailey. The 91 team was a running team which limited their opportunities. Bailey and Hobert weren't even playing in the 4th quarter in half the games either. Picket to Williams aired the ball out almost every play. Completely different offenses.
In 91, Mario Bailey had 62 receptions 1037 yards and 17 TD's. Hobert completed 173 passes for 2271yards and 22 TD's. Bailey accounted for 36% of the completed passes, 46% of the yards, and 77% of the TD's.
In 2002, Reggie had 94 receptions for 1454 yards and 11 TD's. Picket completed 365 passes for 4458 yards and 28 TD's. Reggie accounted for 26% of the completed passes, 33% of the yards, and 39% of the TD's.
I know these percentages aren't the end all, be all, but it shows how stats can skew judgment. The 2002 team threw the ball more than twice as often as the 91 team did. Hobert attempted only 285 passes in 1991. Picket attempted 612 in 2002! Like I said bfore, these were completely different offenses. -
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DerekJohnson said:
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Cody Pickett - Reggie WilliamsI'll take the Pickett-Williams led dance party.
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Billy Joe Hobert - Mario Bailey
#ObligatoryThomasFremont said:I'll take the Pickett-Williams led Lemon party.
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That is funny as hell.Dardanus said:
Side story: when Reggie Williams was a freshman and showed up for his first practice, he told the rest of the team he was the best athlete on the field. In response to this claim, the seniors taped him to the goalpoast and shaved his eyebrows.RoadDawg55 said:
There is no way to know. What I do know is Hobert to Bailey was much more efficient than Picket to Williams. At the same time, Picket and Williams should not be punished for having a much worse OL, and an almost non existent running game while the 91 team had a great OL and strong running game.Dardanus said:
Are you saying that if you put Hobert-Bailey on the 2002 or 2003 teams, they would have had more production than Pickett-Williams?RoadDawg55 said:Hobert to Bailey. The 91 team was a running team which limited their opportunities. Bailey and Hobert weren't even playing in the 4th quarter in half the games either. Picket to Williams aired the ball out almost every play. Completely different offenses.
In 91, Mario Bailey had 62 receptions 1037 yards and 17 TD's. Hobert completed 173 passes for 2271yards and 22 TD's. Bailey accounted for 36% of the completed passes, 46% of the yards, and 77% of the TD's.
In 2002, Reggie had 94 receptions for 1454 yards and 11 TD's. Picket completed 365 passes for 4458 yards and 28 TD's. Reggie accounted for 26% of the completed passes, 33% of the yards, and 39% of the TD's.
I know these percentages aren't the end all, be all, but it shows how stats can skew judgment. The 2002 team threw the ball more than twice as often as the 91 team did. Hobert attempted only 285 passes in 1991. Picket attempted 612 in 2002! Like I said bfore, these were completely different offenses.
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I'll never forget how he bragged before your 2002 Sun Bowl against Purdue how awesome he was, and then the Purdue corners shut him down and made him their bitch. He was great against the small corners that all of the Pac 10 teams had that season, but the big Purdue corners ate his lunch.
I wonder if Slick ever goes to Canada to watch him play?
This gem from wiki is interesting...
"On April 5, 2009, police officials reported Williams was arrested on felony drug charges after scuffling with Houston police officers at a local night club. Police tasered Williams and took him into custody at which time police found what appeared to be a bag of cocaine in his back pocket."
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Cary Conklin to Mario Bailey - '89 Freedom Bowl. Fucking beatdown over FL w/ E Smith. Bottom line!
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Billy Joe Hobert - Mario Bailey
He always seemed overrated. Pre-Doogs wouldn't shut up about him though.OZONE said:
That is funny as hell.Dardanus said:
Side story: when Reggie Williams was a freshman and showed up for his first practice, he told the rest of the team he was the best athlete on the field. In response to this claim, the seniors taped him to the goalpoast and shaved his eyebrows.RoadDawg55 said:
There is no way to know. What I do know is Hobert to Bailey was much more efficient than Picket to Williams. At the same time, Picket and Williams should not be punished for having a much worse OL, and an almost non existent running game while the 91 team had a great OL and strong running game.Dardanus said:
Are you saying that if you put Hobert-Bailey on the 2002 or 2003 teams, they would have had more production than Pickett-Williams?RoadDawg55 said:Hobert to Bailey. The 91 team was a running team which limited their opportunities. Bailey and Hobert weren't even playing in the 4th quarter in half the games either. Picket to Williams aired the ball out almost every play. Completely different offenses.
In 91, Mario Bailey had 62 receptions 1037 yards and 17 TD's. Hobert completed 173 passes for 2271yards and 22 TD's. Bailey accounted for 36% of the completed passes, 46% of the yards, and 77% of the TD's.
In 2002, Reggie had 94 receptions for 1454 yards and 11 TD's. Picket completed 365 passes for 4458 yards and 28 TD's. Reggie accounted for 26% of the completed passes, 33% of the yards, and 39% of the TD's.
I know these percentages aren't the end all, be all, but it shows how stats can skew judgment. The 2002 team threw the ball more than twice as often as the 91 team did. Hobert attempted only 285 passes in 1991. Picket attempted 612 in 2002! Like I said bfore, these were completely different offenses.
Source: sources
I'll never forget how he bragged before your 2002 Sun Bowl against Purdue how awesome he was, and then the Purdue corners shut him down and made him their bitch. He was great against the small corners that all of the Pac 10 teams had that season, but the big Purdue corners ate his lunch.
I wonder if Slick ever goes to Canada to watch him play?
This gem from wiki is interesting...
"On April 5, 2009, police officials reported Williams was arrested on felony drug charges after scuffling with Houston police officers at a local night club. Police tasered Williams and took him into custody at which time police found what appeared to be a bag of cocaine in his back pocket." -
Billy Joe Hobert - Mario Bailey
This thread is worthless without ReggieIsGod.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
He always seemed overrated. Pre-Doogs wouldn't shut up about him though.OZONE said:
That is funny as hell.Dardanus said:
Side story: when Reggie Williams was a freshman and showed up for his first practice, he told the rest of the team he was the best athlete on the field. In response to this claim, the seniors taped him to the goalpoast and shaved his eyebrows.RoadDawg55 said:
There is no way to know. What I do know is Hobert to Bailey was much more efficient than Picket to Williams. At the same time, Picket and Williams should not be punished for having a much worse OL, and an almost non existent running game while the 91 team had a great OL and strong running game.Dardanus said:
Are you saying that if you put Hobert-Bailey on the 2002 or 2003 teams, they would have had more production than Pickett-Williams?RoadDawg55 said:Hobert to Bailey. The 91 team was a running team which limited their opportunities. Bailey and Hobert weren't even playing in the 4th quarter in half the games either. Picket to Williams aired the ball out almost every play. Completely different offenses.
In 91, Mario Bailey had 62 receptions 1037 yards and 17 TD's. Hobert completed 173 passes for 2271yards and 22 TD's. Bailey accounted for 36% of the completed passes, 46% of the yards, and 77% of the TD's.
In 2002, Reggie had 94 receptions for 1454 yards and 11 TD's. Picket completed 365 passes for 4458 yards and 28 TD's. Reggie accounted for 26% of the completed passes, 33% of the yards, and 39% of the TD's.
I know these percentages aren't the end all, be all, but it shows how stats can skew judgment. The 2002 team threw the ball more than twice as often as the 91 team did. Hobert attempted only 285 passes in 1991. Picket attempted 612 in 2002! Like I said bfore, these were completely different offenses.
Source: sources
I'll never forget how he bragged before your 2002 Sun Bowl against Purdue how awesome he was, and then the Purdue corners shut him down and made him their bitch. He was great against the small corners that all of the Pac 10 teams had that season, but the big Purdue corners ate his lunch.
I wonder if Slick ever goes to Canada to watch him play?
This gem from wiki is interesting...
"On April 5, 2009, police officials reported Williams was arrested on felony drug charges after scuffling with Houston police officers at a local night club. Police tasered Williams and took him into custody at which time police found what appeared to be a bag of cocaine in his back pocket."
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Billy Joe Hobert - Mario Bailey
He wasn't overrated as a talent. He's big and fast. He shook off tacklers and absorbed hits like a fucking animal when he wanted to, then had a crazy burst for such a big receiver. He just has a 5 cent head and didn't try to improve or stay in shape...or stay out of trouble. The Oregon fan is also correct that he just shut it down when big corners came up and jammed him. All that speed and strength was wasted until he actually had the ball in his hands.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
He always seemed overrated. Pre-Doogs wouldn't shut up about him though.OZONE said:
That is funny as hell.Dardanus said:
Side story: when Reggie Williams was a freshman and showed up for his first practice, he told the rest of the team he was the best athlete on the field. In response to this claim, the seniors taped him to the goalpoast and shaved his eyebrows.RoadDawg55 said:
There is no way to know. What I do know is Hobert to Bailey was much more efficient than Picket to Williams. At the same time, Picket and Williams should not be punished for having a much worse OL, and an almost non existent running game while the 91 team had a great OL and strong running game.Dardanus said:
Are you saying that if you put Hobert-Bailey on the 2002 or 2003 teams, they would have had more production than Pickett-Williams?RoadDawg55 said:Hobert to Bailey. The 91 team was a running team which limited their opportunities. Bailey and Hobert weren't even playing in the 4th quarter in half the games either. Picket to Williams aired the ball out almost every play. Completely different offenses.
In 91, Mario Bailey had 62 receptions 1037 yards and 17 TD's. Hobert completed 173 passes for 2271yards and 22 TD's. Bailey accounted for 36% of the completed passes, 46% of the yards, and 77% of the TD's.
In 2002, Reggie had 94 receptions for 1454 yards and 11 TD's. Picket completed 365 passes for 4458 yards and 28 TD's. Reggie accounted for 26% of the completed passes, 33% of the yards, and 39% of the TD's.
I know these percentages aren't the end all, be all, but it shows how stats can skew judgment. The 2002 team threw the ball more than twice as often as the 91 team did. Hobert attempted only 285 passes in 1991. Picket attempted 612 in 2002! Like I said bfore, these were completely different offenses.
Source: sources
I'll never forget how he bragged before your 2002 Sun Bowl against Purdue how awesome he was, and then the Purdue corners shut him down and made him their bitch. He was great against the small corners that all of the Pac 10 teams had that season, but the big Purdue corners ate his lunch.
I wonder if Slick ever goes to Canada to watch him play?
This gem from wiki is interesting...
"On April 5, 2009, police officials reported Williams was arrested on felony drug charges after scuffling with Houston police officers at a local night club. Police tasered Williams and took him into custody at which time police found what appeared to be a bag of cocaine in his back pocket."
