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Baseman
Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.
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  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,264
    Good run down on his con’s

    I’m in though He’s gonna be awesome
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I agree with everything you've said here. I don't think Donovan's offense is a perfect fit for Huard (or any QB for that matter).

    OTOH, I think Huard is the perfect fit for Donovan's offense. He wants to run first, run second, run third and then hit you with a playaction bomb over the top. There was plenty to complain about last season but the willingness to throw it deep was there. Morris is just absolutely abysmal at that particular throw.

    Huard, conversely, has scary deep ball accuracy, combined with plenty of arm strength.

    Last year's team scores at least another touchdown per game with Huard.

    That's not enough to make an elite offense - the offensive philosophy is terrible and needs to be changed. But it's enough to win the vast majority of games with this schedule and this defense.

    Huard won't win us an NC with the offense as presently constructed. But I don't think there's a QB anywhere who could.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,158
    dnc said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I agree with everything you've said here. I don't think Donovan's offense is a perfect fit for Huard (or any QB for that matter).

    OTOH, I think Huard is the perfect fit for Donovan's offense. He wants to run first, run second, run third and then hit you with a playaction bomb over the top. There was plenty to complain about last season but the willingness to throw it deep was there. Morris is just absolutely abysmal at that particular throw.

    Huard, conversely, has scary deep ball accuracy, combined with plenty of arm strength.

    Last year's team scores at least another touchdown per game with Huard.

    That's not enough to make an elite offense - the offensive philosophy is terrible and needs to be changed. But it's enough to win the vast majority of games with this schedule and this defense.

    Huard won't win us an NC with the offense as presently constructed. But I don't think there's a QB anywhere who could.
    Lmao another td per game with huard huh?

    You really are king doog
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I agree with everything you've said here. I don't think Donovan's offense is a perfect fit for Huard (or any QB for that matter).

    OTOH, I think Huard is the perfect fit for Donovan's offense. He wants to run first, run second, run third and then hit you with a playaction bomb over the top. There was plenty to complain about last season but the willingness to throw it deep was there. Morris is just absolutely abysmal at that particular throw.

    Huard, conversely, has scary deep ball accuracy, combined with plenty of arm strength.

    Last year's team scores at least another touchdown per game with Huard.

    That's not enough to make an elite offense - the offensive philosophy is terrible and needs to be changed. But it's enough to win the vast majority of games with this schedule and this defense.

    Huard won't win us an NC with the offense as presently constructed. But I don't think there's a QB anywhere who could.
    Lmao another td per game with huard huh?

    You really are king doog
    Your crush on me is cute.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    Keep in mind Baseman loved Skinny.

    Does Sam have “it” in him like Skinny did?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club

    Keep in mind Baseman loved Skinny.

    Does Sam have “it” in him like Skinny did?

    I thought he was pasting Ballz
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330

    The offense is great. Getting rid of Nick Holt and improving the defense will make us much better

    This is the iron law of the boy with his finger in the dike bad teams always have a bad unit

    Huard could be great. Then the defense will start giving up 40 points a game

    Husky Fever

    This is the race I know.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,158

    dnc said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I agree with everything you've said here. I don't think Donovan's offense is a perfect fit for Huard (or any QB for that matter).

    OTOH, I think Huard is the perfect fit for Donovan's offense. He wants to run first, run second, run third and then hit you with a playaction bomb over the top. There was plenty to complain about last season but the willingness to throw it deep was there. Morris is just absolutely abysmal at that particular throw.

    Huard, conversely, has scary deep ball accuracy, combined with plenty of arm strength.

    Last year's team scores at least another touchdown per game with Huard.

    That's not enough to make an elite offense - the offensive philosophy is terrible and needs to be changed. But it's enough to win the vast majority of games with this schedule and this defense.

    Huard won't win us an NC with the offense as presently constructed. But I don't think there's a QB anywhere who could.
    Lmao another td per game with huard huh?

    You really are king doog
    One more possession a game that results in a TD does not seem like an outlandish ask to me if the qb is top-shelf.
    The kid is in high school HTH
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    Keep in mind Baseman loved Skinny.

    Does Sam have “it” in him like Skinny did?

    Cute. Did you purposely omit Skinny's options at WR or did you forget what he had to work with?

    I love Skinny and Sam. Out of the shotgun with good receivers they post big numbers. UW provides neither.

    I'd prefer a dual threat. Billy Joe, Brunnell, and Tui were sort of good.





  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    dnc said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I agree with everything you've said here. I don't think Donovan's offense is a perfect fit for Huard (or any QB for that matter).

    OTOH, I think Huard is the perfect fit for Donovan's offense. He wants to run first, run second, run third and then hit you with a playaction bomb over the top. There was plenty to complain about last season but the willingness to throw it deep was there. Morris is just absolutely abysmal at that particular throw.

    Huard, conversely, has scary deep ball accuracy, combined with plenty of arm strength.

    Last year's team scores at least another touchdown per game with Huard.

    That's not enough to make an elite offense - the offensive philosophy is terrible and needs to be changed. But it's enough to win the vast majority of games with this schedule and this defense.

    Huard won't win us an NC with the offense as presently constructed. But I don't think there's a QB anywhere who could.
    Jack Locker was supposed to win Rosebowls and shit.

  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Did he enroll already? Typically when we start hating on the recruits
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,276 Founders Club
    Only to see Sam Huard enter the portal after the 2022 season
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,552 Swaye's Wigwam
    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    That's weird. I'm hearing he's sneaky athletic.

    Just what I'm hearing, don't twist.
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,552 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    That's weird. I'm hearing he's sneaky athletic.

    Just what I'm hearing, don't twist.
    Hi Kim. Come over from Dawgman to see where more/all your subscribers went again?




  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    godawgst said:

    dnc said:

    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    That's weird. I'm hearing he's sneaky athletic.

    Just what I'm hearing, don't twist.
    Hi Kim. Come over from Dawgman to see where more/all your subscribers went again?




    Whooooooosh
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    I have been a proponent of running QB’s in CFB for awhile. A statue type like Eason definitely hurts an offense.

    Sam is a good athlete. He’s not a statue at all. A left handed Joe Burrow is his ceiling.

    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    I have been a proponent of running QB’s in CFB for awhile. A statue type like Eason definitely hurts an offense.

    Sam is a good athlete. He’s not a statue at all. A left handed Joe Burrow is his ceiling.
    This is the right comp
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam
    Donovan's offense can work and will if the QB and receivers don't leave plays on the field. We've seen that guys can get open. We know a couple of them have the talent to make something happen if they catch the ball.

    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    I have been a proponent of running QB’s in CFB for awhile. A statue type like Eason definitely hurts an offense.

    Sam is a good athlete. He’s not a statue at all. A left handed Joe Burrow is his ceiling.
    No way he can be called an average athlete. Average, 6'1" white kids don't dunk as sph or Juniors in high school. His speed and athletic ability are probably average across the range of QBs at this level, but that's more than good enough for a pass first QB.

    This guy was well below average athletically but was still an effective scrambler. Huard could run circles around him.https://youtu.be/0ZvSLBIprHs
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    Only to see Sam Huard enter the portal after the 2022 season

    To Oregon?
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    chuck said:

    Donovan's offense can work and will if the QB and receivers don't leave plays on the field. We've seen that guys can get open. We know a couple of them have the talent to make something happen if they catch the ball.

    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    I have been a proponent of running QB’s in CFB for awhile. A statue type like Eason definitely hurts an offense.

    Sam is a good athlete. He’s not a statue at all. A left handed Joe Burrow is his ceiling.
    No way he can be called an average athlete. Average, 6'1" white kids don't dunk as sph or Juniors in high school. His speed and athletic ability are probably average across the range of QBs at this level, but that's more than good enough for a pass first QB.

    This guy was well below average athletically but was still an effective scrambler. Huard could run circles around him.https://youtu.be/0ZvSLBIprHs
    There's an average HS athlete and there's an average athlete for a college QB. Big difference. His athleticism will play up because of his elite accuracy and field awareness. You won't see him at the top of the conference for his running ability or agility in space.

    Keith Price was a plus athlete before his injury.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam
    Baseman said:

    chuck said:

    Donovan's offense can work and will if the QB and receivers don't leave plays on the field. We've seen that guys can get open. We know a couple of them have the talent to make something happen if they catch the ball.

    godawgst said:

    Baseman said:

    A 6'1 Air Raid QB. Never taken a HS snap under center. Below average speed. Avg pocket agility.

    Sam and Kennedy's 2 4-star WRs overmatched a WEAK NPSL league.

    His plus --not elite -- arm strength plays up because of Sam's elite accuracy and decision making.

    I'm skeptical how this will translate in Donovan's under center offense. I love Sam but I'm a seller at the current valuation.

    Donovan hasn't figured out the modern day successful offenses all have this philosophy. "We’re an RPO team that runs the football. If you’re gonna let us run the ball, then we will continue to run the ball. The moment you say we’re gonna take away the run, our system is built to throw RPOs" - Sark. Urban Meyer, now Ryan Day. Dabo Swinney. Their teams score points. Elite athletes want to play in those systems.

    I could not agree with this assessment more.

    In today's CFB, your qb better have even more than just the ability to side step away from pressure. He must be able to be a (+) runner at the qb spot and make plays that way. Just being able to sit in the pocket and be extremely accurate is not enough unless your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Lake (and by proxy) Donovan aren't whoosing us with the run the damn ball talk. There is going to be many 2-4 med/long situations per game where if no one is open our QB is going to have to scramble for the 1st down. I don't see Sam having that ability to get that and move the sticks and those are the empty possessions that will keep us from being anymore than the low/mid 20's scoring which in today's cfb is not enough.
    I have been a proponent of running QB’s in CFB for awhile. A statue type like Eason definitely hurts an offense.

    Sam is a good athlete. He’s not a statue at all. A left handed Joe Burrow is his ceiling.
    No way he can be called an average athlete. Average, 6'1" white kids don't dunk as sph or Juniors in high school. His speed and athletic ability are probably average across the range of QBs at this level, but that's more than good enough for a pass first QB.

    This guy was well below average athletically but was still an effective scrambler. Huard could run circles around him.https://youtu.be/0ZvSLBIprHs
    There's an average HS athlete and there's an average athlete for a college QB. Big difference. His athleticism will play up because of his elite accuracy and field awareness. You won't see him at the top of the conference for his running ability or agility in space.

    Keith Price was a plus athlete before his injury.
    Didn't realize I was double quoting some aborted, late night, stoned reply. Oops.

    I disagree on price. That's what we all thought, but he was pretty slow from the beginning. Clever as shit with the ball though.

    I expect Huard to get 7-8 yards when it's right there for the taking. We've had supposedly athletic QBs who couldn't do that (Pickett supposedly ran faster than Tui, but couldn't get 10 yards if half the defense was laying down, for example). Stanback had legit sprinter speed and busted a few, but also had a gift for turning potentially big runs for a guy with his speed into modest gains.

    If Huard can outrun a lineman and has the presence to know when and where to run, I have zero concerns about his speed.