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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
    Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
    "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
    With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    I think we should set our immigration policy based on a poem.
    Funny how important traditional American values are until it means more brown people.
    But it's not a traditional American value. It's a poem. A poem that was ignored for most of it's history. Since you're so big on tradition Kobe lets return to the "traditional" immigration policy we had in 1960, 1950, 1940, 1930. You in Kunt? You wouldn't want to go against tradition now would you Kobe.

    Btw, our "tradition" never involved allowing people to enter this country illegally. You're the one who is violating traditional American values Kobe, not me.
    This is bad, even for you. If you’d like to set the ever moving standard of legality as the issue, I’m down. I’ll get illegal immigration down to zero.

    I made it about values, you made it about policy. This should be familiar for you guys. American values are often failed by policy. Freedom being a good example.
    We allow millions of legal immigrants into the country every fucking year Kobe. That "value" wasn't ended under Trump. What you didn't like is that Trump wanted to curb illegal immigration. We have never had a "tradition" of allowing people to entry the country illegally. And since you're so BIG on our "traditions" why won't you support the return to our "traditional" immigration policy of 1950 or 1960? Come on Kobe, I thought you supported our "traditions."
    It seems like this discussion is over your head. I really can’t believe it was that easy to get you to rail against traditionalism and set a standard where it means you’d have to support anything America ever did in the past.

    You really can’t think past whatever is in front of your face that second. And you think it’s black people with inferior genetics lol.
    What part of "illegal' is so intellectually difficult to understand?

    Black and white thinking is racist
    I thought black thinking couldn't be racist because it's not oppressive?

    What did I miss?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
    Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
    "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
    With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    I think we should set our immigration policy based on a poem.
    Funny how important traditional American values are until it means more brown people.
    But it's not a traditional American value. It's a poem. A poem that was ignored for most of it's history. Since you're so big on tradition Kobe lets return to the "traditional" immigration policy we had in 1960, 1950, 1940, 1930. You in Kunt? You wouldn't want to go against tradition now would you Kobe.

    Btw, our "tradition" never involved allowing people to enter this country illegally. You're the one who is violating traditional American values Kobe, not me.
    This is bad, even for you. If you’d like to set the ever moving standard of legality as the issue, I’m down. I’ll get illegal immigration down to zero.

    I made it about values, you made it about policy. This should be familiar for you guys. American values are often failed by policy. Freedom being a good example.
    We allow millions of legal immigrants into the country every fucking year Kobe. That "value" wasn't ended under Trump. What you didn't like is that Trump wanted to curb illegal immigration. We have never had a "tradition" of allowing people to entry the country illegally. And since you're so BIG on our "traditions" why won't you support the return to our "traditional" immigration policy of 1950 or 1960? Come on Kobe, I thought you supported our "traditions."
    It seems like this discussion is over your head. I really can’t believe it was that easy to get you to rail against traditionalism and set a standard where it means you’d have to support anything America ever did in the past.

    You really can’t think past whatever is in front of your face that second. And you think it’s black people with inferior genetics lol.
    What part of "illegal' is so intellectually difficult to understand?

    Black and white thinking is racist
    I thought black thinking couldn't be racist because it's not oppressive?

    What did I miss?
    Thinking is now racist.

    Comply. Do not resist the Critical Race Theory Borg.

    I hated Critical Theory long before Critical Race Theory came into vogue.

    Those ugly mushy-mouthed French fuckers who pushed that shit since the 1930s were annoying little parasite shits long before cultural Marxism took root in segments of the black community in the U.S., primarily because black Christians at the time refused to abandon their God and kneel for the Almighty state, which had fucked them sideways for generations prior.

    How CT and CRT survive today is only explained by massive voluntary ignorance by resentful haters too dumb to study their history and where that toxic bullshit leads.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,606 Standard Supporter

    How much of this is simply the media putting a spotlight on things. They recycle issues and stories. I would imagine a lot of shit goes on at the border and always has. Some bad shit is going to be found, regardless of president. It will be on to the next issues in a week, then this will come up again months later.

    Media/Faux Newz needs to fill its 24 hour news cycle, and they definitely overdid the caravan shit a few times to scare old people like my aunt and uncle, but illegal immigration is way up because people know slow Joe will be soft on it.

    There's always going to be some of it, but it's been out of control since the 80s and a lot of people and business benefit from cheap labor and under the table shit and shrug. Then there's always the far left open borders fags who cry racism and every turn. If we had millions of Canadians pouring over the border constantly, especially Quebecois, people would get sick of it fast.

    I'm with Pitchfork in theory. They should all be deported. All 20 million or whatever it is. It's just not realistic and the commie faggots and ACLU would throw the biggest hissy fit in recorded history. Even Trump knows this. He tried, but the treasonous Dimocrats who turned into mush on the border after being reasonable not all that long ago basically fought for sieve borders for the past four years.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,797 Founders Club

    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    Race card one trick pony weighs in.
    Everyone take a drink
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2021

    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    I'd rather people knock on my front door than break a window and sneak in from the back.

    I know that makes me racist in TKS world and I don't care.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,715 Standard Supporter

    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    I'd rather people knock on my front door than break a window and sneak in from the back.

    I know that makes me racist in TKS world and I don't care.
    People breaking in get shot.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,034

    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    Race card one trick pony weighs in.
    Everyone take a drink
    The Throbber hates passing out by noon.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    We let in more than a million legal immigrants every year. Almost all of these legal immigrants aren't white. Go fuck yourself Kobe. Again, if white American were illegally entering El Salvador by the millions you'd be at the head of the fucking parade calling it racist for the white Americans to be doing so.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    hardhat said:

    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    You are the most racist poster, and that is beyond dispute.
    Agree, he thinks blacks are too stupid to get an ID. He thinks blacks aren't smart enough to compete academically with whites and Asians. He has lower standards of behavior and performance for black people than he does for white people.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,715 Standard Supporter
    Terrorists walking over our border. Already some arrested I am sure many more are on the way or got through already. Thanks Demonrats!
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    If you're poor, uneducated, and useless...go the fuck back.

    We also shouldn't be taking in Indian dudes to do Photoshop and then work as slaves.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,220 Standard Supporter

    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    What a fucking miserable argument.

    I don’t want runaway immigration because I don’t want my tax dollars going toward social programs associated with poverty.

    If you could guarantee me I can avoid that, I’d gladly live in a country where I was the only honkey alive.

    Bet.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited March 2021
    thechatch said:

    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    What a fucking miserable argument.

    I don’t want runaway immigration because I don’t want my tax dollars going toward social programs associated with poverty.

    If you could guarantee me I can avoid that, I’d gladly live in a country where I was the only honkey alive.

    Bet.
    Exactly, if you could make a deal with leftists and say that we can have open borders, but in trade we get to eliminate the welfare state or no new immigrant who comes here illegally can use any taxpayer funded service. No schools, no medical care, no welfare for anyone here illegally, do you think they'd go for it? Fuck no.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    thechatch said:

    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    What a fucking miserable argument.

    I don’t want runaway immigration because I don’t want my tax dollars going toward social programs associated with poverty.

    If you could guarantee me I can avoid that, I’d gladly live in a country where I was the only honkey alive.

    Bet.
    I don't want my tax dollars going to brand new immigrants who haven't contributed a dime into the system they are taking from. That's fucking bullshit.

    Once they've been here a few years and contributed their fare share into the safety nets, fine. But until then, they are supposedly coming here to work hard and make a better life, not suck off the system the U.S. tax-paying citizens built.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959


    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    There's not a developed country in the world that would allow a massive influx of illegal immigrants to pour over their borders. Shit, in the last decade we just saw the entirety of the EU bribe Greece to become the dumping ground for all Syrian refugees because no one else was willing to accept a material number of them.

    The dynamic here in the U.S. really isn't any different. Countries have borders and its very much in their interest to enforce those borders. Recasting that very basic motivation as rank racism is just lazy.
    Except I’m not calling the motivation to have a border racist. I went out of my way to not call Tequilla racist. Biden isn’t allowing adults in at the border, I’m not screaming racism. I do not think having open borders would be a good idea right now.

    Do you see any of them objecting to me saying they want the country to look a certain way? Do you see any of them objecting to the accusation that they think white people being a minority would destroy the country? Do you see them objecting to the dog whistle of western culture?

    Recasting arguments made by people who believe in race science, people who celebrate cruelty being used as a deterrent, as legitimate is lazy. Their motivation is very clear and they’re ability to parrot some actually not monstrous arguments doesn’t change that.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,606 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2021

    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    Sure. That's why people used to try to stop immigration from Europe. You're such a SJW NPC.

    *In robotic voice* beep Racism beep
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344


    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    There's not a developed country in the world that would allow a massive influx of illegal immigrants to pour over their borders. Shit, in the last decade we just saw the entirety of the EU bribe Greece to become the dumping ground for all Syrian refugees because no one else was willing to accept a material number of them.

    The dynamic here in the U.S. really isn't any different. Countries have borders and its very much in their interest to enforce those borders. Recasting that very basic motivation as rank racism is just lazy.
    Except I’m not calling the motivation to have a border racist. I went out of my way to not call Tequilla racist. Biden isn’t allowing adults in at the border, I’m not screaming racism. I do not think having open borders would be a good idea right now.

    Do you see any of them objecting to me saying they want the country to look a certain way? Do you see any of them objecting to the accusation that they think white people being a minority would destroy the country? Do you see them objecting to the dog whistle of western culture?

    Recasting arguments made by people who believe in race science, people who celebrate cruelty being used as a deterrent, as legitimate is lazy. Their motivation is very clear and they’re ability to parrot some actually not monstrous arguments doesn’t change that.
    Everyone objects to your infantile, social justice warrior shtick. That's why you're mocked relentlessly. You don't really give a shit anyway. You don't coach, mentor, or volunteer in your community. You don't donate money to any causes. You're just a virtue signaling keyboard warrior.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165


    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    There's not a developed country in the world that would allow a massive influx of illegal immigrants to pour over their borders. Shit, in the last decade we just saw the entirety of the EU bribe Greece to become the dumping ground for all Syrian refugees because no one else was willing to accept a material number of them.

    The dynamic here in the U.S. really isn't any different. Countries have borders and its very much in their interest to enforce those borders. Recasting that very basic motivation as rank racism is just lazy.
    Except I’m not calling the motivation to have a border racist. I went out of my way to not call Tequilla racist. Biden isn’t allowing adults in at the border, I’m not screaming racism. I do not think having open borders would be a good idea right now.

    Do you see any of them objecting to me saying they want the country to look a certain way? Do you see any of them objecting to the accusation that they think white people being a minority would destroy the country? Do you see them objecting to the dog whistle of western culture?

    Recasting arguments made by people who believe in race science, people who celebrate cruelty being used as a deterrent, as legitimate is lazy. Their motivation is very clear and they’re ability to parrot some actually not monstrous arguments doesn’t change that.
    I'm not following. Your first sentence says the motivation isn't racist. Yet your last paragraph is certainly implying that the motivation is racist. Which stance are you taking?
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662


    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    There's not a developed country in the world that would allow a massive influx of illegal immigrants to pour over their borders. Shit, in the last decade we just saw the entirety of the EU bribe Greece to become the dumping ground for all Syrian refugees because no one else was willing to accept a material number of them.

    The dynamic here in the U.S. really isn't any different. Countries have borders and its very much in their interest to enforce those borders. Recasting that very basic motivation as rank racism is just lazy.
    Except I’m not calling the motivation to have a border racist. I went out of my way to not call Tequilla racist. Biden isn’t allowing adults in at the border, I’m not screaming racism. I do not think having open borders would be a good idea right now.

    Do you see any of them objecting to me saying they want the country to look a certain way? Do you see any of them objecting to the accusation that they think white people being a minority would destroy the country? Do you see them objecting to the dog whistle of western culture?

    Recasting arguments made by people who believe in race science, people who celebrate cruelty being used as a deterrent, as legitimate is lazy. Their motivation is very clear and they’re ability to parrot some actually not monstrous arguments doesn’t change that.
    I don't want poor stupid people coming.
    We already have enough of them.

    Hot girls and highly educated professionals are fine.

    But realistically it doesn't really impact me in an immediate direct way.

    It mostly directly hurts poor people in cities.

    Who are those people?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183


    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    There's not a developed country in the world that would allow a massive influx of illegal immigrants to pour over their borders. Shit, in the last decade we just saw the entirety of the EU bribe Greece to become the dumping ground for all Syrian refugees because no one else was willing to accept a material number of them.

    The dynamic here in the U.S. really isn't any different. Countries have borders and its very much in their interest to enforce those borders. Recasting that very basic motivation as rank racism is just lazy.
    Except I’m not calling the motivation to have a border racist. I went out of my way to not call Tequilla racist. Biden isn’t allowing adults in at the border, I’m not screaming racism. I do not think having open borders would be a good idea right now.

    Do you see any of them objecting to me saying they want the country to look a certain way? Do you see any of them objecting to the accusation that they think white people being a minority would destroy the country? Do you see them objecting to the dog whistle of western culture?

    Recasting arguments made by people who believe in race science, people who celebrate cruelty being used as a deterrent, as legitimate is lazy. Their motivation is very clear and they’re ability to parrot some actually not monstrous arguments doesn’t change that.
    I don't want poor stupid people coming.
    We already have enough of them.

    Hot girls and highly educated professionals are fine.

    But realistically it doesn't really impact me in an immediate direct way.

    It mostly directly hurts poor people in cities.

    Who are those people?
    Kobe likes to bitch about the plight of the working poor, while personally knowing no poor people and never having to work in order to eat himself, while advocating for the of importation millions of additional new poor low skill workers. Any depression in their wages is the fault of capitalism not anything that Kobe is advocating
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959


    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    There's not a developed country in the world that would allow a massive influx of illegal immigrants to pour over their borders. Shit, in the last decade we just saw the entirety of the EU bribe Greece to become the dumping ground for all Syrian refugees because no one else was willing to accept a material number of them.

    The dynamic here in the U.S. really isn't any different. Countries have borders and its very much in their interest to enforce those borders. Recasting that very basic motivation as rank racism is just lazy.
    Except I’m not calling the motivation to have a border racist. I went out of my way to not call Tequilla racist. Biden isn’t allowing adults in at the border, I’m not screaming racism. I do not think having open borders would be a good idea right now.

    Do you see any of them objecting to me saying they want the country to look a certain way? Do you see any of them objecting to the accusation that they think white people being a minority would destroy the country? Do you see them objecting to the dog whistle of western culture?

    Recasting arguments made by people who believe in race science, people who celebrate cruelty being used as a deterrent, as legitimate is lazy. Their motivation is very clear and they’re ability to parrot some actually not monstrous arguments doesn’t change that.
    I'm not following. Your first sentence says the motivation isn't racist. Yet your last paragraph is certainly implying that the motivation is racist. Which stance are you taking?
    The motivation doesn’t have to be racist, their motivation is.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183


    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    There's not a developed country in the world that would allow a massive influx of illegal immigrants to pour over their borders. Shit, in the last decade we just saw the entirety of the EU bribe Greece to become the dumping ground for all Syrian refugees because no one else was willing to accept a material number of them.

    The dynamic here in the U.S. really isn't any different. Countries have borders and its very much in their interest to enforce those borders. Recasting that very basic motivation as rank racism is just lazy.
    Except I’m not calling the motivation to have a border racist. I went out of my way to not call Tequilla racist. Biden isn’t allowing adults in at the border, I’m not screaming racism. I do not think having open borders would be a good idea right now.

    Do you see any of them objecting to me saying they want the country to look a certain way? Do you see any of them objecting to the accusation that they think white people being a minority would destroy the country? Do you see them objecting to the dog whistle of western culture?

    Recasting arguments made by people who believe in race science, people who celebrate cruelty being used as a deterrent, as legitimate is lazy. Their motivation is very clear and they’re ability to parrot some actually not monstrous arguments doesn’t change that.
    I'm not following. Your first sentence says the motivation isn't racist. Yet your last paragraph is certainly implying that the motivation is racist. Which stance are you taking?
    The motivation doesn’t have to be racist, their motivation is.
    The Amazing Kobe the mentalist!!! Kobe, since you can read minds, tell me what I’m thinking right now?