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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,749
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:


    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    There's not a developed country in the world that would allow a massive influx of illegal immigrants to pour over their borders. Shit, in the last decade we just saw the entirety of the EU bribe Greece to become the dumping ground for all Syrian refugees because no one else was willing to accept a material number of them.

    The dynamic here in the U.S. really isn't any different. Countries have borders and its very much in their interest to enforce those borders. Recasting that very basic motivation as rank racism is just lazy.
    Except I’m not calling the motivation to have a border racist. I went out of my way to not call Tequilla racist. Biden isn’t allowing adults in at the border, I’m not screaming racism. I do not think having open borders would be a good idea right now.

    Do you see any of them objecting to me saying they want the country to look a certain way? Do you see any of them objecting to the accusation that they think white people being a minority would destroy the country? Do you see them objecting to the dog whistle of western culture?

    Recasting arguments made by people who believe in race science, people who celebrate cruelty being used as a deterrent, as legitimate is lazy. Their motivation is very clear and they’re ability to parrot some actually not monstrous arguments doesn’t change that.
    There’s nothing in your response that makes it clear who you were calling racist
    “people who believe in race science, people who celebrate cruelty being used as a deterrent...Their motivation is very clear”

    I was crystal clear.
    This is your response to me ...

    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.

    ——————————-

    What you referenced above may have been said elsewhere and earlier but that’s not what I was referencing

    All I was saying about you calling people racists was to say that all that serves to do is inflame and get people to fixate on that instead of any point that you’re making
    I do not expect America to look a certain way. My grandparents immigrated here. I have no problem with immigration. I have a problem with illegal immigration or preference in immigration for political ends. We can not and never have been able to withstand an uncontrolled flood and we have never allowed it. Just how does one country get unlimited immigration into the USA without any checks or balances while others wait years to come?
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    hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,343
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    Sledog said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:


    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    There's not a developed country in the world that would allow a massive influx of illegal immigrants to pour over their borders. Shit, in the last decade we just saw the entirety of the EU bribe Greece to become the dumping ground for all Syrian refugees because no one else was willing to accept a material number of them.

    The dynamic here in the U.S. really isn't any different. Countries have borders and its very much in their interest to enforce those borders. Recasting that very basic motivation as rank racism is just lazy.
    Except I’m not calling the motivation to have a border racist. I went out of my way to not call Tequilla racist. Biden isn’t allowing adults in at the border, I’m not screaming racism. I do not think having open borders would be a good idea right now.

    Do you see any of them objecting to me saying they want the country to look a certain way? Do you see any of them objecting to the accusation that they think white people being a minority would destroy the country? Do you see them objecting to the dog whistle of western culture?

    Recasting arguments made by people who believe in race science, people who celebrate cruelty being used as a deterrent, as legitimate is lazy. Their motivation is very clear and they’re ability to parrot some actually not monstrous arguments doesn’t change that.
    There’s nothing in your response that makes it clear who you were calling racist
    “people who believe in race science, people who celebrate cruelty being used as a deterrent...Their motivation is very clear”

    I was crystal clear.
    This is your response to me ...

    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.

    ——————————-

    What you referenced above may have been said elsewhere and earlier but that’s not what I was referencing

    All I was saying about you calling people racists was to say that all that serves to do is inflame and get people to fixate on that instead of any point that you’re making
    I do not expect America to look a certain way. My grandparents immigrated here. I have no problem with immigration. I have a problem with illegal immigration or preference in immigration for political ends. We can not and never have been able to withstand an uncontrolled flood and we have never allowed it. Just how does one country get unlimited immigration into the USA without any checks or balances while others wait years to come?
    You don’t reason with woketards.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Sledog said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:


    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    There's not a developed country in the world that would allow a massive influx of illegal immigrants to pour over their borders. Shit, in the last decade we just saw the entirety of the EU bribe Greece to become the dumping ground for all Syrian refugees because no one else was willing to accept a material number of them.

    The dynamic here in the U.S. really isn't any different. Countries have borders and its very much in their interest to enforce those borders. Recasting that very basic motivation as rank racism is just lazy.
    Except I’m not calling the motivation to have a border racist. I went out of my way to not call Tequilla racist. Biden isn’t allowing adults in at the border, I’m not screaming racism. I do not think having open borders would be a good idea right now.

    Do you see any of them objecting to me saying they want the country to look a certain way? Do you see any of them objecting to the accusation that they think white people being a minority would destroy the country? Do you see them objecting to the dog whistle of western culture?

    Recasting arguments made by people who believe in race science, people who celebrate cruelty being used as a deterrent, as legitimate is lazy. Their motivation is very clear and they’re ability to parrot some actually not monstrous arguments doesn’t change that.
    There’s nothing in your response that makes it clear who you were calling racist
    “people who believe in race science, people who celebrate cruelty being used as a deterrent...Their motivation is very clear”

    I was crystal clear.
    This is your response to me ...

    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.

    ——————————-

    What you referenced above may have been said elsewhere and earlier but that’s not what I was referencing

    All I was saying about you calling people racists was to say that all that serves to do is inflame and get people to fixate on that instead of any point that you’re making
    I do not expect America to look a certain way. My grandparents immigrated here. I have no problem with immigration. I have a problem with illegal immigration or preference in immigration for political ends. We can not and never have been able to withstand an uncontrolled flood and we have never allowed it. Just how does one country get unlimited immigration into the USA without any checks or balances while others wait years to come?
    Obviously you just oppose illegal immigration because they are brown people.
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    The Colorado shooter was a crazy mooslim who loved our? state run media and wanted to kill Trump supporters.
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    SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,235
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    hardhat said:

    Sledog said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:


    Tequilla said:



    Lol. Yeah, this doesn’t completely correspond with Covid at all. Peaks with Trump’s policies in effect, nose dives with Covid, rises again for 10 straight months with Trump still as president. It was totally Trump’s policies.

    It’s really sad how far you guys will lie just to be racist.

    It really doesn’t help your point to call people racists

    The problem with charts is most people see a trend line, make a conclusion, and that’s that

    When I see the graph I see a very short-term and sizable increase in H1 2019 before a substantial reduction. Then after COVID started, you start seeing another sizable uptick.

    Have you thought what makes the abnormal data in the chart? Were there upticks in building sections of the wall? Change in policy driving a rise in migrant activity? When you see a large spike like that there’s likely an explanation.

    Moreover, unless I’m not understanding the data correctly, the data is talking about stopping illegal immigration. It’s probably fair to loosely align a rise in data as a sign that activity is increasing. There is a variable in the data though in what % of those trying to cross illegally are being caught upon entry.

    And while you may not believe this, enforcing security at the border and eliminating illegal entry into the country isn’t racist at all. It’s a security issue. It’s a legal issue. It has nothing to do with race. I’d make the same statement about our northern border as our southern border.
    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.
    There's not a developed country in the world that would allow a massive influx of illegal immigrants to pour over their borders. Shit, in the last decade we just saw the entirety of the EU bribe Greece to become the dumping ground for all Syrian refugees because no one else was willing to accept a material number of them.

    The dynamic here in the U.S. really isn't any different. Countries have borders and its very much in their interest to enforce those borders. Recasting that very basic motivation as rank racism is just lazy.
    Except I’m not calling the motivation to have a border racist. I went out of my way to not call Tequilla racist. Biden isn’t allowing adults in at the border, I’m not screaming racism. I do not think having open borders would be a good idea right now.

    Do you see any of them objecting to me saying they want the country to look a certain way? Do you see any of them objecting to the accusation that they think white people being a minority would destroy the country? Do you see them objecting to the dog whistle of western culture?

    Recasting arguments made by people who believe in race science, people who celebrate cruelty being used as a deterrent, as legitimate is lazy. Their motivation is very clear and they’re ability to parrot some actually not monstrous arguments doesn’t change that.
    There’s nothing in your response that makes it clear who you were calling racist
    “people who believe in race science, people who celebrate cruelty being used as a deterrent...Their motivation is very clear”

    I was crystal clear.
    This is your response to me ...

    It doesn’t help anyone to pretend their issue with immigration isn’t about race. They want America to look a certain way, they think white people being a minority would destroy the country, western culture blah blah blah.

    ——————————-

    What you referenced above may have been said elsewhere and earlier but that’s not what I was referencing

    All I was saying about you calling people racists was to say that all that serves to do is inflame and get people to fixate on that instead of any point that you’re making
    I do not expect America to look a certain way. My grandparents immigrated here. I have no problem with immigration. I have a problem with illegal immigration or preference in immigration for political ends. We can not and never have been able to withstand an uncontrolled flood and we have never allowed it. Just how does one country get unlimited immigration into the USA without any checks or balances while others wait years to come?
    You don’t reason with woketards.
    Iron law.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,749
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