Roster numbers - March 2021
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So in other words, we're full
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This means nothing to me. I want to see his 3-cone drill so I know if he has a chance in hell of recovering the snap that went over his head.Bread said: -
Latu is a soph not a junior
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Isn't he technically a freshman since last year didn't count?NEsnake12 said:Latu is a soph not a junior
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First, a sincere thank you for putting this together ... it’s incredibly helpful
Some random thoughts:
QB is what it is and we’ll either need to bring in a 2022 kid or hit the portal again. I suspect we’re going to continue to leverage the portal hard for QBs at least in the short term. We have to hit a big name in 2023 and probably 2024 as well.
I’d be surprised if Newton doesn’t portal by this time next year. He’s going to lose touches to the 15th year seniors and likely going to get passed by younger guys on the depth chart. I also think Adams ends up as a DB.
Imperative that 2022 class contains 1-2 dynamic TE recruits because we’re full on blocking less athletic TEs. I’m really excited for Moore and what he may bring. I wonder if Culp is about to get passed big time.
I know we’re looking at big numbers on the OL in this class but we’re going to have decent attrition here just because of numbers ... some to the NFL and probably others simply for opportunity
WR is worrisome ... particularly if you assume that Osborne and Spiker are over this shit. Need to have some heavy classes in 2022-20/3 to cover. This is also a position where you might be able to leverage the portal some
DL needs another strong 2022 class and LB depth is actually pretty good.
CB is in really rough shape if everyone that can declare declares. I don’t see how we aren’t in on both HS kids AND transfers again next year. Safety isn’t as bad of shape and I like the young players we have there. -
I think the way it works is that last year doesn’t count towards your eligibility cap. Latu used a year of eligibility in 2019, and was injured for a season that didn’t count anyways. I think he’s *technically* a true sophomore and could still feasibly redshirt a season if he got hurt again.bananasnblondes said:
Isn't he technically a freshman since last year didn't count?NEsnake12 said:Latu is a soph not a junior
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Latu played in 5+ games in 2019?NEsnake12 said:
I think the way it works is that last year doesn’t count towards your eligibility cap. Latu used a year of eligibility in 2019, and was injured for a season that didn’t count anyways. I think he’s *technically* a true sophomore and could still feasibly redshirt a season if he got hurt again.bananasnblondes said:
Isn't he technically a freshman since last year didn't count?NEsnake12 said:Latu is a soph not a junior
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Pretty sure they controlled Latu’s games to keep him at or under the cap of 4NEsnake12 said:
I think the way it works is that last year doesn’t count towards your eligibility cap. Latu used a year of eligibility in 2019, and was injured for a season that didn’t count anyways. I think he’s *technically* a true sophomore and could still feasibly redshirt a season if he got hurt again.bananasnblondes said:
Isn't he technically a freshman since last year didn't count?NEsnake12 said:Latu is a soph not a junior
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I just used what was listed on gohuskiesNEsnake12 said:Latu is a soph not a junior
https://gohuskies.com/sports/football/roster/laiatu-latu/13387
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Fair enough. And per this, he played in 12/13 games as a true freshmaninsinceredawg said:
I just used what was listed on gohuskiesNEsnake12 said:Latu is a soph not a junior
https://gohuskies.com/sports/football/roster/laiatu-latu/13387
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Wow. Had no idea he played that much. Glad he got that special teams experience.NEsnake12 said:
Fair enough. And per this, he played in 12/13 games as a true freshmaninsinceredawg said:
I just used what was listed on gohuskiesNEsnake12 said:Latu is a soph not a junior
https://gohuskies.com/sports/football/roster/laiatu-latu/13387
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Incoming/Outgoing blue chip players. Thanks to the portal, we're only going to have a net loss of 1 as of now and most of those losses are not impactful. I do expect to lose a few more blue chips before the season starts though.
Incoming (7)
Sam Huard
Jabez Tinae
Owen Prentice
Will Latu
Patrick O'Brien (lolz)
Brendan Radley-Hiles
Jeremiah Martin
Outgoing (8)
Elijah Molden
Keith Taylor
Brandon McKinney
Ty Jones
Puka Nacua
Jack Yary
Jacob Sirmon
Ethan Garbers
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How many of those could be called contributors? 3?insinceredawg said:Incoming/Outgoing blue chip players. Thanks to the portal, we're only going to have a net loss of 1 as of now and most of those losses are not impactful. I do expect to lose a few more blue chips before the season starts though.
Incoming (7)
Sam Huard
Jabez Tinae
Owen Prentice
Will Latu
Patrick O'Brien (lolz)
Brendan Radley-Hiles
Jeremiah Martin
Outgoing (8)
Elijah Molden
Keith Taylor
Brandon McKinney
Ty Jones
Puka Nacua
Jack Yary
Jacob Sirmon
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Depends on your definition of contributor. Ty Jones was a starter but what impact did he have? Puka had as many nice catches as he had drops. Losing Garbers hurts because it’s nice to have QB depth but he didn’t contribute beyond that.GrundleStiltzkin said:
How many of those could be called contributors? 3?insinceredawg said:Incoming/Outgoing blue chip players. Thanks to the portal, we're only going to have a net loss of 1 as of now and most of those losses are not impactful. I do expect to lose a few more blue chips before the season starts though.
Incoming (7)
Sam Huard
Jabez Tinae
Owen Prentice
Will Latu
Patrick O'Brien (lolz)
Brendan Radley-Hiles
Jeremiah Martin
Outgoing (8)
Elijah Molden
Keith Taylor
Brandon McKinney
Ty Jones
Puka Nacua
Jack Yary
Jacob Sirmon
Ethan Garbers -
I still haven't fully figured out why the conventional wisdom has both Spiker and Osborne transferring. It would seem that both will be in the two deeps if Bynum, Rome, and McMillan are the starting 3 and backed up by Spiker, Osborne, and Polk. Taj Davis and Sawyer are lurking too though it's hard to imagine both beating out Spiker and Osborne for 2nd string.
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Depends on your definition of contributor. Ty Jones was a starter but what impact did he have? Puka had as many nice catches as he had drops. Losing Garbers hurts because it’s nice to have QB depth but he didn’t contribute beyond that.GrundleStiltzkin said:
How many of those could be called contributors? 3?insinceredawg said:Incoming/Outgoing blue chip players. Thanks to the portal, we're only going to have a net loss of 1 as of now and most of those losses are not impactful. I do expect to lose a few more blue chips before the season starts though.
Incoming (7)
Sam Huard
Jabez Tinae
Owen Prentice
Will Latu
Patrick O'Brien (lolz)
Brendan Radley-Hiles
Jeremiah Martin
Outgoing (8)
Elijah Molden
Keith Taylor
Brandon McKinney
Ty Jones
Puka Nacua
Jack Yary
Jacob Sirmon
Ethan Garbers
abundance
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That outgoing list looks awful on paper, but the combined contribution of those guys doesn't add up to much. Only five of the eight played for UW (dismissing Sirmon and his single digit snaps). McKinney was bad, Jones was mediocre, and Nacua showed high level potential but wasn't consistent in limited games.insinceredawg said:Incoming/Outgoing blue chip players. Thanks to the portal, we're only going to have a net loss of 1 as of now and most of those losses are not impactful. I do expect to lose a few more blue chips before the season starts though.
Incoming (7)
Sam Huard
Jabez Tinae
Owen Prentice
Will Latu
Patrick O'Brien (lolz)
Brendan Radley-Hiles
Jeremiah Martin
Outgoing (8)
Elijah Molden
Keith Taylor
Brandon McKinney
Ty Jones
Puka Nacua
Jack Yary
Jacob Sirmon
Ethan Garbers
Molden and Taylor are the only standout losses. -
But only two incomers will contribute in ‘21.
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You betting on Huard or Martin along with Radley?TTJ said:But only two incomers will contribute in ‘21.
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Polk will play. Losing Jones, Nacua, and Chin from last season was about 57% of our WR snaps on passing downs.dnc said: -
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I would guess Radley, Moore, Martin, and Polk. O'Brien may get some snaps but don't see him starting.
This makes a good point about the portal really opening up at a helpful time during the coaching transition:
https://si.com/college/washington/football/jmmy-lake-shushes-his-critics-with-big-splash-in-the-transfer-portal -
I was kidding about O'Brien.HFNY said:I would guess Radley, Moore, Martin, and Polk. O'Brien may get some snaps but don't see him starting.
This makes a good point about the portal really opening up at a helpful time during the coaching transition:
https://si.com/college/washington/football/jmmy-lake-shushes-his-critics-with-big-splash-in-the-transfer-portal
The point was about former blue chip recruits exiting versus incoming. Polk doesn't count. I dont think Moore does either iirc. From the list TTJ was going off of, he had to be referring to Huard or Martin. Nobody else on that list is playing this year. -
If Spiker and/or Osborne leave, then Tinae will play. He could easily be the 5th best WR midway through the season.chuck said:
I was kidding about O'Brien.HFNY said:I would guess Radley, Moore, Martin, and Polk. O'Brien may get some snaps but don't see him starting.
This makes a good point about the portal really opening up at a helpful time during the coaching transition:
https://si.com/college/washington/football/jmmy-lake-shushes-his-critics-with-big-splash-in-the-transfer-portal
The point was about former blue chip recruits exiting versus incoming. Polk doesn't count. I dont think Moore does either iirc. From the list TTJ was going off of, he had to be referring to Huard or Martin. Nobody else on that list is playing this year. -
That's true. It may not matter if Spiker and Osborn leave or stay. Neither seems to be on a path to playing. It wouldn't be a surprise if another true freshman beat both out.whatshouldicareabout said:
If Spiker and/or Osborne leave, then Tinae will play. He could easily be the 5th best WR midway through the season.chuck said:
I was kidding about O'Brien.HFNY said:I would guess Radley, Moore, Martin, and Polk. O'Brien may get some snaps but don't see him starting.
This makes a good point about the portal really opening up at a helpful time during the coaching transition:
https://si.com/college/washington/football/jmmy-lake-shushes-his-critics-with-big-splash-in-the-transfer-portal
The point was about former blue chip recruits exiting versus incoming. Polk doesn't count. I dont think Moore does either iirc. From the list TTJ was going off of, he had to be referring to Huard or Martin. Nobody else on that list is playing this year. -
Conventional wisdom has Spiker and Osborne transferring because @jamesosborne1959 has been all over Dawgman saying that they are both going to transfer after spring ball. If I am remembering what he said correctly, Spiker to Boise and Osborne to SJSU.HFNY said:I still haven't fully figured out why the conventional wisdom has both Spiker and Osborne transferring. It would seem that both will be in the two deeps if Bynum, Rome, and McMillan are the starting 3 and backed up by Spiker, Osborne, and Polk. Taj Davis and Sawyer are lurking too though it's hard to imagine both beating out Spiker and Osborne for 2nd string.
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Why would they wait until after spring ball to transfer? Why not transfer now to have more tim to earn a spot on the new team?
