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Are we for or against ending the filibuster?

RaceBannon
RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club






And the paid shill



I am not in favor because the minority party needs the protection. I'm hoping that Trump joining the left in wanting to end it will help keep it. On the other hand elections really would have consequences without it.

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
    Note the date on the democrats in favor of keeping it. That is an argument right there to keep it. The party out of power wants it
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
    Once upon a time the Senate was the saucer to cool the hot tea of the House. Or something

    It should be HARD (Hi Coach) to pass major legislation and if the people really want it elect 60 of your team.

    Somehow the crafty dems slipped Obamacare through anyway. I'm sure it would be illegal for the GOP to do the same
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Who cares? They’re gonna do whatever the fuck the want anyway.

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,729 Founders Club
    Want something, give up something.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,126 Standard Supporter


    WAR FILLIBUSTER!

    There's enough things in the Throbber's life that already end prematurely.

    Let's not have political opposition meet the same fate.



  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,347 Founders Club

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    Yeah, nasty was the wrong word. Frustrating would be more apt.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,319 Founders Club

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    Yeah, nasty was the wrong word. Frustrating would be more apt.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,126 Standard Supporter

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    The 2A is the protection.

    The filibuster is just the warning.

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,319 Founders Club

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    The 2A is the protection.

    The filibuster is just the warning.

    Not really. The South went the 2A route and it ended badly (for them). They could have just fought a delaying action in the Senate and kept their peculiar institution for another 30 or 40 years.

    The ballot is stronger than the bullet as Honest Abe once said.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,864 Standard Supporter

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    The 2A is the protection.

    The filibuster is just the warning.

    Not really. The South went the 2A route and it ended badly (for them). They could have just fought a delaying action in the Senate and kept their peculiar institution for another 30 or 40 years.

    The ballot is stronger than the bullet as Honest Abe once said.
    The Brits disagree.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,319 Founders Club
    edited March 2021
    Sledog said:

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    The 2A is the protection.

    The filibuster is just the warning.

    Not really. The South went the 2A route and it ended badly (for them). They could have just fought a delaying action in the Senate and kept their peculiar institution for another 30 or 40 years.

    The ballot is stronger than the bullet as Honest Abe once said.
    The Brits disagree.
    Even the French Navy could win a battle once in a while.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,287 Standard Supporter
    It is absolutely essential, and was created SPECIFICALLY for terms where a single party held everything by narrow margins.

    Sorry, bitches. You’ll have to dust off budget reconciliation again, like you did for the ACA.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,319 Founders Club
    thechatch said:

    It is absolutely essential, and was created SPECIFICALLY for terms where a single party held everything by narrow margins.

    Sorry, bitches. You’ll have to dust off budget reconciliation again, like you did for the ACA.

    Most of the massive legislative change in this country has occurred when like 60% or more of the electorate is for it which is as it should be. Tyranny of the 51% isn't good for either side.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,729 Founders Club
    I heard from Kobe that there was a mandate. 50/50 senate, 8 diff in the house and 42k votes in the presidential. Greatest mandate of my lifetime.