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Are we for or against ending the filibuster?

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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,851 Founders Club

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    Yeah, nasty was the wrong word. Frustrating would be more apt.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,784 Standard Supporter

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    The 2A is the protection.

    The filibuster is just the warning.

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,851 Founders Club

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    The 2A is the protection.

    The filibuster is just the warning.

    Not really. The South went the 2A route and it ended badly (for them). They could have just fought a delaying action in the Senate and kept their peculiar institution for another 30 or 40 years.

    The ballot is stronger than the bullet as Honest Abe once said.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,763 Standard Supporter

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    The 2A is the protection.

    The filibuster is just the warning.

    Not really. The South went the 2A route and it ended badly (for them). They could have just fought a delaying action in the Senate and kept their peculiar institution for another 30 or 40 years.

    The ballot is stronger than the bullet as Honest Abe once said.
    The Brits disagree.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,851 Founders Club
    edited March 2021
    Sledog said:

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    The 2A is the protection.

    The filibuster is just the warning.

    Not really. The South went the 2A route and it ended badly (for them). They could have just fought a delaying action in the Senate and kept their peculiar institution for another 30 or 40 years.

    The ballot is stronger than the bullet as Honest Abe once said.
    The Brits disagree.
    Even the French Navy could win a battle once in a while.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,518 Standard Supporter
    It is absolutely essential, and was created SPECIFICALLY for terms where a single party held everything by narrow margins.

    Sorry, bitches. You’ll have to dust off budget reconciliation again, like you did for the ACA.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,851 Founders Club
    thechatch said:

    It is absolutely essential, and was created SPECIFICALLY for terms where a single party held everything by narrow margins.

    Sorry, bitches. You’ll have to dust off budget reconciliation again, like you did for the ACA.

    Most of the massive legislative change in this country has occurred when like 60% or more of the electorate is for it which is as it should be. Tyranny of the 51% isn't good for either side.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,428 Founders Club
    I heard from Kobe that there was a mandate. 50/50 senate, 8 diff in the house and 42k votes in the presidential. Greatest mandate of my lifetime.