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Are we for or against ending the filibuster?

RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,469 Founders Club






And the paid shill



I am not in favor because the minority party needs the protection. I'm hoping that Trump joining the left in wanting to end it will help keep it. On the other hand elections really would have consequences without it.

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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,469 Founders Club
    Note the date on the democrats in favor of keeping it. That is an argument right there to keep it. The party out of power wants it
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter
    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,469 Founders Club
    Once upon a time the Senate was the saucer to cool the hot tea of the House. Or something

    It should be HARD (Hi Coach) to pass major legislation and if the people really want it elect 60 of your team.

    Somehow the crafty dems slipped Obamacare through anyway. I'm sure it would be illegal for the GOP to do the same
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Who cares? They’re gonna do whatever the fuck the want anyway.

  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,863 Swaye's Wigwam
    Want something, give up something.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,742 Standard Supporter


    WAR FILLIBUSTER!

    There's enough things in the Throbber's life that already end prematurely.

    Let's not have political opposition meet the same fate.



  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,318 Founders Club

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    Yeah, nasty was the wrong word. Frustrating would be more apt.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,084 Founders Club

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    Yeah, nasty was the wrong word. Frustrating would be more apt.

  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,742 Standard Supporter

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    The 2A is the protection.

    The filibuster is just the warning.

  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,084 Founders Club

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    The 2A is the protection.

    The filibuster is just the warning.

    Not really. The South went the 2A route and it ended badly (for them). They could have just fought a delaying action in the Senate and kept their peculiar institution for another 30 or 40 years.

    The ballot is stronger than the bullet as Honest Abe once said.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,394 Standard Supporter

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    The 2A is the protection.

    The filibuster is just the warning.

    Not really. The South went the 2A route and it ended badly (for them). They could have just fought a delaying action in the Senate and kept their peculiar institution for another 30 or 40 years.

    The ballot is stronger than the bullet as Honest Abe once said.
    The Brits disagree.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,084 Founders Club
    edited March 2021
    Sledog said:

    Nasty as it can be, I've always been in favor of keeping it.

    Nothing nasty about it. In the spirit of our founding principles, it provides protection of the minority from the majority.
    The 2A is the protection.

    The filibuster is just the warning.

    Not really. The South went the 2A route and it ended badly (for them). They could have just fought a delaying action in the Senate and kept their peculiar institution for another 30 or 40 years.

    The ballot is stronger than the bullet as Honest Abe once said.
    The Brits disagree.
    Even the French Navy could win a battle once in a while.
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 6,412
    It is absolutely essential, and was created SPECIFICALLY for terms where a single party held everything by narrow margins.

    Sorry, bitches. You’ll have to dust off budget reconciliation again, like you did for the ACA.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,084 Founders Club
    thechatch said:

    It is absolutely essential, and was created SPECIFICALLY for terms where a single party held everything by narrow margins.

    Sorry, bitches. You’ll have to dust off budget reconciliation again, like you did for the ACA.

    Most of the massive legislative change in this country has occurred when like 60% or more of the electorate is for it which is as it should be. Tyranny of the 51% isn't good for either side.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,863 Swaye's Wigwam
    I heard from Kobe that there was a mandate. 50/50 senate, 8 diff in the house and 42k votes in the presidential. Greatest mandate of my lifetime.
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