Obamacare and the religious right
For me religion is about control.
And telling people they can't use birth control is bullshit.
Just like those who praise Allah can only eat at night during Ram a Dam.
And Catholics have to give something up during lint.
If I'm an employer it is far cheaper for me to pay for birth control than have to pay the cost of all those fuck trophies running around.
But Gawd prevents people from seeing clearly sometimes ... like when they kick over 10% of their pay to his child molesting cronies.
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But at some point, the government has to have limits in what they can order businesses to do. My personal opinions on birth control have jack shit to do with it. I do not like the government being able to tell everyone to purchase and do what they want just becasue the government likes it. What about what I think or like? In short, fuck the government.
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I think you're both right. #Abundance
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And as an employer you have the right to decide what to pay for.topdawgnc said:Thoughts?
For me religion is about control.
And telling people they can't use birth control is bullshit.
Just like those who praise Allah can only eat at night during Ram a Dam.
And Catholics have to give something up during lint.
If I'm an employer it is far cheaper for me to pay for birth control than have to pay the cost of all those fuck trophies running around.
But Gawd prevents people from seeing clearly sometimes ... like when they kick over 10% of their pay to his child molesting cronies.
I don't see it as an issue of religion. It's choice. And I'm pro-choice. For everything. Hobby lobby could just say F off and, pay the fine and tell people to get their own god damned insurance. Or if you don't like the benefits Hobby Lobby pays, you are free to work somewhere else and shop somewhere else.
The left and right have an inconsistent positions when it comes to "choice". Each wants the freedom to choose things they believe in, and restrict things they don't. It's hypocritical.
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What's funny ... in a non-funny way.TierbsHsotBoobs said:I think you're both right. #Abundance
Abortion will likely spike among those who work for these religious companies. -
The Hobby Lobby case, and thus the ruling, was too narrow. It would have been far better to have a ruling on whether government can tell any business what insurance coverage to provide on any grounds. But clearly that wasn't going to happen so we take what we can get.
Regarding your religious control objection, remember that in the West, these are voluntary associations and voluntary compliance. Sharia law states, that's a different situation obviously. -
I'd bet Sven's $20 Congress will move, or Obama will edict, what the definition of a closely held corporation ...MikeDamone said:
And as an employer you have the right to decide what to pay for.topdawgnc said:Thoughts?
For me religion is about control.
And telling people they can't use birth control is bullshit.
Just like those who praise Allah can only eat at night during Ram a Dam.
And Catholics have to give something up during lint.
If I'm an employer it is far cheaper for me to pay for birth control than have to pay the cost of all those fuck trophies running around.
But Gawd prevents people from seeing clearly sometimes ... like when they kick over 10% of their pay to his child molesting cronies.
I don't see it as an issue of religion. It's choice. And I'm pro-choice. For everything. Hobby lobby could just say F off and, pay the fine and tell people to get their own god damned insurance. Or if you don't like the benefits Hobby Lobby pays, you are free to work somewhere else and shop somewhere else.
The left and right have an inconsistent positions when it comes to "choice". Each wants the freedom to choose things they believe in, and restrict things they don't. It's hypocritical.
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Due to the need for an individual to shell out $30 for their own Pill prescription?topdawgnc said:
What's funny ... in a non-funny way.TierbsHsotBoobs said:I think you're both right. #Abundance
Abortion will likely spike among those who work for these religious companies. -
From what I read if you aren't part of the 1% ... $30 a month makes the difference between eating and not eating.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Due to the need for an individual to shell out $30 for their own Pill prescription?topdawgnc said:
What's funny ... in a non-funny way.TierbsHsotBoobs said:I think you're both right. #Abundance
Abortion will likely spike among those who work for these religious companies.
If we don't get to $15 an hour these people will be on the streets. -
But at least they will still have their government provided phone, because, you know, you gotta have a phone, or you like, can't live or some shit.topdawgnc said:
From what I read if you aren't part of the 1% ... $30 a month makes the difference between eating and not eating.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Due to the need for an individual to shell out $30 for their own Pill prescription?topdawgnc said:
What's funny ... in a non-funny way.TierbsHsotBoobs said:I think you're both right. #Abundance
Abortion will likely spike among those who work for these religious companies.
If we don't get to $15 an hour these people will be on the streets. -
Everybody deserves to have a phone. No one living in the greatest nation on earth shouldn't have free healthcare, a phone and $15/hr.Swaye said:
But at least they will still have their government provided phone, because, you know, you gotta have a phone, or you like, can't live or some shit.topdawgnc said:
From what I read if you aren't part of the 1% ... $30 a month makes the difference between eating and not eating.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Due to the need for an individual to shell out $30 for their own Pill prescription?topdawgnc said:
What's funny ... in a non-funny way.TierbsHsotBoobs said:I think you're both right. #Abundance
Abortion will likely spike among those who work for these religious companies.
If we don't get to $15 an hour these people will be on the streets.
