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Obamacare and the religious right

topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
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Thoughts?

For me religion is about control.

And telling people they can't use birth control is bullshit.

Just like those who praise Allah can only eat at night during Ram a Dam.

And Catholics have to give something up during lint.

If I'm an employer it is far cheaper for me to pay for birth control than have to pay the cost of all those fuck trophies running around.

But Gawd prevents people from seeing clearly sometimes ... like when they kick over 10% of their pay to his child molesting cronies.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    I think you're both right. #Abundance
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  • topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    I think you're both right. #Abundance

    What's funny ... in a non-funny way.

    Abortion will likely spike among those who work for these religious companies.
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,506 Standard Supporter
    The Hobby Lobby case, and thus the ruling, was too narrow. It would have been far better to have a ruling on whether government can tell any business what insurance coverage to provide on any grounds. But clearly that wasn't going to happen so we take what we can get.
    Regarding your religious control objection, remember that in the West, these are voluntary associations and voluntary compliance. Sharia law states, that's a different situation obviously.
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  • topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
    MikeDamone said:

    topdawgnc said:

    Thoughts?

    For me religion is about control.

    And telling people they can't use birth control is bullshit.

    Just like those who praise Allah can only eat at night during Ram a Dam.

    And Catholics have to give something up during lint.

    If I'm an employer it is far cheaper for me to pay for birth control than have to pay the cost of all those fuck trophies running around.

    But Gawd prevents people from seeing clearly sometimes ... like when they kick over 10% of their pay to his child molesting cronies.

    And as an employer you have the right to decide what to pay for.

    I don't see it as an issue of religion. It's choice. And I'm pro-choice. For everything. Hobby lobby could just say F off and, pay the fine and tell people to get their own god damned insurance. Or if you don't like the benefits Hobby Lobby pays, you are free to work somewhere else and shop somewhere else.

    The left and right have an inconsistent positions when it comes to "choice". Each wants the freedom to choose things they believe in, and restrict things they don't. It's hypocritical.

    I'd bet Sven's $20 Congress will move, or Obama will edict, what the definition of a closely held corporation ...
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,506 Standard Supporter
    topdawgnc said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    I think you're both right. #Abundance

    What's funny ... in a non-funny way.

    Abortion will likely spike among those who work for these religious companies.
    Due to the need for an individual to shell out $30 for their own Pill prescription?
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  • topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    topdawgnc said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    I think you're both right. #Abundance

    What's funny ... in a non-funny way.

    Abortion will likely spike among those who work for these religious companies.
    Due to the need for an individual to shell out $30 for their own Pill prescription?
    From what I read if you aren't part of the 1% ... $30 a month makes the difference between eating and not eating.

    If we don't get to $15 an hour these people will be on the streets.
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  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,511 Founders Club
    topdawgnc said:

    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    topdawgnc said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    I think you're both right. #Abundance

    What's funny ... in a non-funny way.

    Abortion will likely spike among those who work for these religious companies.
    Due to the need for an individual to shell out $30 for their own Pill prescription?
    From what I read if you aren't part of the 1% ... $30 a month makes the difference between eating and not eating.

    If we don't get to $15 an hour these people will be on the streets.
    But at least they will still have their government provided phone, because, you know, you gotta have a phone, or you like, can't live or some shit.
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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,428 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    topdawgnc said:

    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    topdawgnc said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    I think you're both right. #Abundance

    What's funny ... in a non-funny way.

    Abortion will likely spike among those who work for these religious companies.
    Due to the need for an individual to shell out $30 for their own Pill prescription?
    From what I read if you aren't part of the 1% ... $30 a month makes the difference between eating and not eating.

    If we don't get to $15 an hour these people will be on the streets.
    But at least they will still have their government provided phone, because, you know, you gotta have a phone, or you like, can't live or some shit.
    Everybody deserves to have a phone. No one living in the greatest nation on earth shouldn't have free healthcare, a phone and $15/hr.
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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,428 Founders Club
    Also, I don't know why the hell anyone would be against birth control. Do they not see how many fucktards are reproducing? We should pay some people to use it.
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    PurpleJ said:

    Also, I don't know why the hell anyone would be against birth control. Do they not see how many fucktards are reproducing? We should pay some people to use it.

    Go ahead...write the check.... Nothing stopping you...
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,506 Standard Supporter
    topdawgnc said:

    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    topdawgnc said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    I think you're both right. #Abundance

    What's funny ... in a non-funny way.

    Abortion will likely spike among those who work for these religious companies.
    Due to the need for an individual to shell out $30 for their own Pill prescription?
    From what I read if you aren't part of the 1% ... $30 a month makes the difference between eating and not eating.

    If we don't get to $15 an hour these people will be on the streets.
    Tell me about it. This post brought to you by my ObamaPhone.
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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,428 Founders Club
    MikeDamone said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Also, I don't know why the hell anyone would be against birth control. Do they not see how many fucktards are reproducing? We should pay some people to use it.

    Go ahead...write the check.... Nothing stopping you...
    Who would you make the check out to?
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  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,511 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    MikeDamone said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Also, I don't know why the hell anyone would be against birth control. Do they not see how many fucktards are reproducing? We should pay some people to use it.

    Go ahead...write the check.... Nothing stopping you...
    Who would you make the check out to?
    NAACP.

    Worked out for Donald Sterling. Until it didn't.
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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,428 Founders Club
    MikeDamone said:

    PurpleJ said:

    MikeDamone said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Also, I don't know why the hell anyone would be against birth control. Do they not see how many fucktards are reproducing? We should pay some people to use it.

    Go ahead...write the check.... Nothing stopping you...
    Who would you make the check out to?
    Planned Parenthood. It's a non-profit that gets free birth control to low income women. Just what we are talking about.

    No government needed. Just donate straight to them and we're good.

    HTH
    I might actually do that. Sounds like a worthy cause.
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  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Someone that hates people should be for all forms of birth control.
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    doogsinparadise said:

    Someone that hates people should be for all forms of birth control.

    I am. What made you think I wasn't?

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  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,986
    Straw man discussion. Hobby Lobby pays for birth control pre conception...including the pill and lots of other methods. They just don't want to pay for drugs that can destroy a viable embryo.

    But F the govt for trying to tell anybody they have to pay for something for someone else
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