Let’s Be Crystal Clear
That said, the most pressing need is for Jen to be removed as AD
Reality is that Jen’s far too dangerous and irresponsible to make the next hire (and that’s true in a number of sports)
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Totally agree on both counts. There are two types of coaches, athletics directors, presidents and board of Regents....
One which celebrates the achievements of the entire college team sports programs and can tell you how well the intermural program is going and gives out gold stars for participation and academic achievement in between cub scout meetings; and the other which thirsts for a dominant program and does whatever it takes through sheer willpower, ethic and intention to be a freaking winner in the money producing programs.
True leadership coaches and AD's [leaders] make it their life's blood to produce a winner, they are constantly evaluating, understand what they are witnessing and they do not let rose colored glasses color their understanding of the truth of the trajectory of the programs they are managing.
They are decisive when it counts, they have the clout, charisma and financial backing to make it happen and they are ahead of the curve to the point that it all looks seamless. Case closed Sherlock, there is no mystery here. -
Fuckers finally see what I saw
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UW's backslide way ahead of schedule already. You gotta hand it to 'em.
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I mean sure, but I don't think a new AD will change much. We are not a school that is is serious about sports, and we don't have a Phil Knight that demands sports be taken seriously. Its hard for me to say that getting rid of Cohen will solve that problem.
We are fundamentally broken, and content with being an above average program that never really does anything. -
Just think of how proud we’ll be in 2026 when Jimmy is a defensive analyst for Sark at Texas and then in 2032 when Jimmy gets a head coach position at a top 15 program.
Let’s face it. UW either only hires inexperience, incapable coaches or retreads because they’ll do just enough to keep football in position to have positive cash flow.
@FireCohen was first and right. -
WSU has made better hires with far less resources than UW. Cohen needs to go, first.Neighbor2972 said:I mean sure, but I don't think a new AD will change much. We are not a school that is is serious about sports, and we don't have a Phil Knight that demands sports be taken seriously. Its hard for me to say that getting rid of Cohen will solve that problem.
We are fundamentally broken, and content with being an above average program that never really does anything. -
Who is going to fire her?BleachedAnusDawg said:
WSU has made better hires with far less resources than UW. Cohen needs to go, first.Neighbor2972 said:I mean sure, but I don't think a new AD will change much. We are not a school that is is serious about sports, and we don't have a Phil Knight that demands sports be taken seriously. Its hard for me to say that getting rid of Cohen will solve that problem.
We are fundamentally broken, and content with being an above average program that never really does anything. -
Pete for AD?DerekJohnson said:
Who is going to fire her?BleachedAnusDawg said:
WSU has made better hires with far less resources than UW. Cohen needs to go, first.Neighbor2972 said:I mean sure, but I don't think a new AD will change much. We are not a school that is is serious about sports, and we don't have a Phil Knight that demands sports be taken seriously. Its hard for me to say that getting rid of Cohen will solve that problem.
We are fundamentally broken, and content with being an above average program that never really does anything. -
Again, how? Do you think President Ana Marie Caus is going to fire a woman AD that she hired?NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Pete for AD?DerekJohnson said:
Who is going to fire her?BleachedAnusDawg said:
WSU has made better hires with far less resources than UW. Cohen needs to go, first.Neighbor2972 said:I mean sure, but I don't think a new AD will change much. We are not a school that is is serious about sports, and we don't have a Phil Knight that demands sports be taken seriously. Its hard for me to say that getting rid of Cohen will solve that problem.
We are fundamentally broken, and content with being an above average program that never really does anything. -
Damaged goodsCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Just think of how proud we’ll be in 2026 when Jimmy is a defensive analyst for Sark at Texas and then in 2032 when Jimmy gets a head coach position at a top 15 program.
Let’s face it. UW either only hires inexperience, incapable coaches or retreads because they’ll do just enough to keep football in position to have positive cash flow.
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Maybe she can move the fuck on, take Larry Scott’s placeDerekJohnson said:
Again, how? Do you think President Ana Marie Caus is going to fire a woman AD that she hired?NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Pete for AD?DerekJohnson said:
Who is going to fire her?BleachedAnusDawg said:
WSU has made better hires with far less resources than UW. Cohen needs to go, first.Neighbor2972 said:I mean sure, but I don't think a new AD will change much. We are not a school that is is serious about sports, and we don't have a Phil Knight that demands sports be taken seriously. Its hard for me to say that getting rid of Cohen will solve that problem.
We are fundamentally broken, and content with being an above average program that never really does anything.
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I see Jen Cohen as similar to one of those women who can't stop talking about how much of a Seahawks fan they are.
They always dress up for "blue Friday" at the office
They have 10 different colors of Russell Wilson jerseys
They put Seahawks shit all over their car
They have a 12 flag on their house
They do their family photos in Seahawks gear
They have Seahawks parties at their house every GameDay and advertise them throughout the week
When the game is actually on, though, they sit in the other room and talk to their friends about clothing or celebrities or any other gossip... popping in a couple times to ask how the game is going. -
Terrible take.bananasnblondes said:I see Jen Cohen as similar to one of those women who can't stop talking about how much of a Seahawks fan they are.
They always dress up for "blue Friday" at the office
They have 10 different colors of Russell Wilson jerseys
They put Seahawks shit all over their car
They have a 12 flag on their house
They do their family photos in Seahawks gear
They have Seahawks parties at their house every GameDay and advertise them throughout the week
When the game is actually on, though, they sit in the other room and talk to their friends about clothing or celebrities or any other gossip... popping in a couple times to ask how the game is going. -
This is key. What is success to Ana Mari Cauce in athletics? I find it hard to believe that the current dumpster fire would be deemed unacceptable at her level, unfortunately.DerekJohnson said:
Again, how? Do you think President Ana Marie Caus is going to fire a woman AD that she hired?NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Pete for AD?DerekJohnson said:
Who is going to fire her?BleachedAnusDawg said:
WSU has made better hires with far less resources than UW. Cohen needs to go, first.Neighbor2972 said:I mean sure, but I don't think a new AD will change much. We are not a school that is is serious about sports, and we don't have a Phil Knight that demands sports be taken seriously. Its hard for me to say that getting rid of Cohen will solve that problem.
We are fundamentally broken, and content with being an above average program that never really does anything. -
Rolo does intrigue me. I think he'll be fine but he's not in Kansas (hawaii or nevada) anymore.BleachedAnusDawg said:
WSU has made better hires with far less resources than UW. Cohen needs to go, first.Neighbor2972 said:I mean sure, but I don't think a new AD will change much. We are not a school that is is serious about sports, and we don't have a Phil Knight that demands sports be taken seriously. Its hard for me to say that getting rid of Cohen will solve that problem.
We are fundamentally broken, and content with being an above average program that never really does anything.
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Dilbert principle...Jen will get promoted to Pac12 commissioner and whatever politically correct AD replacement will right the ship in a conference that is falling to pieces.
The fact Jen wasn’t even smart enough to get into UW should have been a pretty good indicator that she might not be a crack CEO of the department... -
Did I get whooshed here? Fire Jimmy and Jen? Though a stellar idea - a woman and a person of color ain't getting fired any time soon short of absolute scandal and pics of having sex with infants.
That's simply the tims we live in, folks. 7-5, 6-6 is good enuff.
Stating the obvious. Don't twist.
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He won the P12 North in his first season as a HC with a new OC and new QB and 3 out of 5 new starters on the OL.Tequilla said:Jimmy’s in way over his head and frankly he’s facing way too many headwinds at this point to reasonably expect to turn things around ... and that’d be true even if he knew what he was doing
That said, the most pressing need is for Jen to be removed as AD
Reality is that Jen’s far too dangerous and irresponsible to make the next hire (and that’s true in a number of sports)
What exactly are you saying needs to be turned around?
Sure it would have been nice if Covid didn't prevent us from playing Oregon and playing in the Pac12 championship game but that is above his pay grade.
It's a bit early to predicting an off season 0 and 12. -
LolHairyBallsDawg said:
He won the P12 North in his first season as a HC with a new OC and new QB and 3 out of 5 new starters on the OL.Tequilla said:Jimmy’s in way over his head and frankly he’s facing way too many headwinds at this point to reasonably expect to turn things around ... and that’d be true even if he knew what he was doing
That said, the most pressing need is for Jen to be removed as AD
Reality is that Jen’s far too dangerous and irresponsible to make the next hire (and that’s true in a number of sports)
What exactly are you saying needs to be turned around?
Sure it would have been nice if Covid didn't prevent us from playing Oregon and playing in the Pac12 championship game but that is above his pay grade.
It's a bit early to predicting an off season 0 and 12. -
You didn’t. While recruiting is obviously not going as well as it was 2 years ago, it’s not as bad as many here claim. Top 20 by avg star rating is not terrible the last class. Having a small class keeps the ranking lower.PurpleThrobber said:Did I get whooshed here? Fire Jimmy and Jen? Though a stellar idea - a woman and a person of color ain't getting fired any time soon short of absolute scandal and pics of having sex with infants.
That's simply the tims we live in, folks. 7-5, 6-6 is good enuff.
Stating the obvious. Don't twist.
The company line here tho is that the program is dead. Doesn’t matter that what you said about on field performance kart season is fact. This group was funny before. Now it’s gone too far negative in my book. But whatever works.
If this fall UW didn’t win a north title and more with this talented roster, then it’s time to panic. Until then, I don’t get it.
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Agreed. Play 2021 and see how the staff recruits before making any changes. Though her basketball hire is looking like a poor one, she was part of bringing CP to UW in the first place and reviving Husky Football.HairyBallsDawg said:
He won the P12 North in his first season as a HC with a new OC and new QB and 3 out of 5 new starters on the OL.Tequilla said:Jimmy’s in way over his head and frankly he’s facing way too many headwinds at this point to reasonably expect to turn things around ... and that’d be true even if he knew what he was doing
That said, the most pressing need is for Jen to be removed as AD
Reality is that Jen’s far too dangerous and irresponsible to make the next hire (and that’s true in a number of sports)
What exactly are you saying needs to be turned around?
Sure it would have been nice if Covid didn't prevent us from playing Oregon and playing in the Pac12 championship game but that is above his pay grade.
It's a bit early to predicting an off season 0 and 12. -
Exactly... when you look at Caus's resume you see a career long educator with admirable touchie feelie qualities that are geared toward the advancement of an egalitarian educational university. https://www.washington.edu/president/biography/DerekJohnson said:
Again, how? Do you think President Ana Marie Caus is going to fire a woman AD that she hired?NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Pete for AD?DerekJohnson said:
Who is going to fire her?BleachedAnusDawg said:
WSU has made better hires with far less resources than UW. Cohen needs to go, first.Neighbor2972 said:I mean sure, but I don't think a new AD will change much. We are not a school that is is serious about sports, and we don't have a Phil Knight that demands sports be taken seriously. Its hard for me to say that getting rid of Cohen will solve that problem.
We are fundamentally broken, and content with being an above average program that never really does anything.
The resume does not scream business background acumen like the much hated but very business savvy Emmert. Emmert saw the obligation to advance the business of the university into the annual 1 1/2 billion dollar research grant lab as the opportunity to be addressed. It's hard to believe that the steering committee of the Board of Regents found that Caus's resume was suitable to run the business of the University but there you have it.
The slide on all fronts as the events have progressed is what you would normally expect with the change in focus of the personnel. -
DawgsCanDance said:
Exactly... when you look at Caus's resume you see a career long educator with admirable touchie feelie qualities that are geared toward the advancement of an egalitarian educational university. https://www.washington.edu/president/biography/DerekJohnson said:
Again, how? Do you think President Ana Marie Caus is going to fire a woman AD that she hired?NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Pete for AD?DerekJohnson said:
Who is going to fire her?BleachedAnusDawg said:
WSU has made better hires with far less resources than UW. Cohen needs to go, first.Neighbor2972 said:I mean sure, but I don't think a new AD will change much. We are not a school that is is serious about sports, and we don't have a Phil Knight that demands sports be taken seriously. Its hard for me to say that getting rid of Cohen will solve that problem.
We are fundamentally broken, and content with being an above average program that never really does anything.
The resume does not scream business background acumen like the much hated but very business savvy Emmert. Emmert saw the obligation to advance the business of the university into the annual 1 1/2 billion dollar research grant lab as the opportunity to be addressed. It's hard to believe that the steering committee of the Board of Regents found that Caus's resume was suitable to run the business of the University but there you have it.
The slide on all fronts as the events have progressed is what you would normally expect with the change in focus of the personnel.
Emmert was good enough for me. He hired Woodward who hired Chris Petersen (with Jen Cohen as his right-hand woman) at UW and then Jimbo Fisher at Texas A&M. -
I know... Besides hiring the wrong University President which is deadly because big time AD's do not want to work for a non business president; and then big time coaches do not want to work for a powerless and weak AD which is where we are at now; I think that the real error was in not offering the AD position to @RaceBannon when Emmert left and Woodward followed shortly thereafter...
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Cmon, this is just sexist trash. Jen is clearly in over her head just like plenty of other male ADs have been in over their heads. Fire her worthless ass now. But no need to invent fictitious character traits.bananasnblondes said:I see Jen Cohen as similar to one of those women who can't stop talking about how much of a Seahawks fan they are.
They always dress up for "blue Friday" at the office
They have 10 different colors of Russell Wilson jerseys
They put Seahawks shit all over their car
They have a 12 flag on their house
They do their family photos in Seahawks gear
They have Seahawks parties at their house every GameDay and advertise them throughout the week
When the game is actually on, though, they sit in the other room and talk to their friends about clothing or celebrities or any other gossip... popping in a couple times to ask how the game is going. -
Sure, go ahead and wait until they shit the bed in 2021 to draw your conclusions. Or you could just look at the consistent organizational mismanagement and go out on a limb and recognize that we probably suck.HairyBallsDawg said:
He won the P12 North in his first season as a HC with a new OC and new QB and 3 out of 5 new starters on the OL.Tequilla said:Jimmy’s in way over his head and frankly he’s facing way too many headwinds at this point to reasonably expect to turn things around ... and that’d be true even if he knew what he was doing
That said, the most pressing need is for Jen to be removed as AD
Reality is that Jen’s far too dangerous and irresponsible to make the next hire (and that’s true in a number of sports)
What exactly are you saying needs to be turned around?
Sure it would have been nice if Covid didn't prevent us from playing Oregon and playing in the Pac12 championship game but that is above his pay grade.
It's a bit early to predicting an off season 0 and 12. -
Suck so much we won the Pac12 North with a first year HC, first year OC, first year QB, and most of our OL were new starters.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Sure, go ahead and wait until they shit the bed in 2021 to draw your conclusions. Or you could just look at the consistent organizational mismanagement and go out on a limb and recognize that we probably suck.HairyBallsDawg said:
He won the P12 North in his first season as a HC with a new OC and new QB and 3 out of 5 new starters on the OL.Tequilla said:Jimmy’s in way over his head and frankly he’s facing way too many headwinds at this point to reasonably expect to turn things around ... and that’d be true even if he knew what he was doing
That said, the most pressing need is for Jen to be removed as AD
Reality is that Jen’s far too dangerous and irresponsible to make the next hire (and that’s true in a number of sports)
What exactly are you saying needs to be turned around?
Sure it would have been nice if Covid didn't prevent us from playing Oregon and playing in the Pac12 championship game but that is above his pay grade.
It's a bit early to predicting an off season 0 and 12.
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It is, but Cohen is a fan. She has no business being the AD. I know you don’t disagree with that, I’m just saying.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Cmon, this is just sexist trash. Jen is clearly in over her head just like plenty of other male ADs have been in over their heads. Fire her worthless ass now. But no need to invent fictitious character traits.bananasnblondes said:I see Jen Cohen as similar to one of those women who can't stop talking about how much of a Seahawks fan they are.
They always dress up for "blue Friday" at the office
They have 10 different colors of Russell Wilson jerseys
They put Seahawks shit all over their car
They have a 12 flag on their house
They do their family photos in Seahawks gear
They have Seahawks parties at their house every GameDay and advertise them throughout the week
When the game is actually on, though, they sit in the other room and talk to their friends about clothing or celebrities or any other gossip... popping in a couple times to ask how the game is going. -
Culture drives everything else in the organization. What is the culture right now?
-Bitch out of Pac-12 championship game, and bowl game
-Mike Hopkins is still employed
-Cut the salary pool significantly
-Let the top assistant walk, replaced from within
-Hired retread OC
-Getting destroyed in recruiting
Waiting until the losses have started piling up to say something needs to change is way too late.
The culture has become one of mediocrity at the leadership level. -
Sometimes, when I didn't completely agree, I had to remind myself of something when it comes to the doom and gloom and satirical posts about the program, or specific coach, or player and this particularly true right now. They're just projections. Many of us have seen enough to project, with confidence that seems to grow with every news cycle, that UW football is circling the drain.
I'm just making my call. I know it could be wrong. UW fought to 3-1 against a murderers row of Pac 12 powers and "won" the north. OK the proof isn't on the field yet. It may not be this season either.
I'll have to see a big improvement in almost every aspect, but they could change my mind on the field. I actually feel like there's a decent chance of it. I'll have to see it, but then I'll make one ceremonial round where I fuck off every negative post about anyrhing, and then settle in to being a quiet doog for as long as it lasts.
