Let’s Be Crystal Clear
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I was suckered in by Jens giant boobs. When I finally woke up from the titty fog, I realized she sucks.
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I completely agree with you. Which is why I always say that the culture of the city and campus will always be the biggest barriers to UW success. That's not "Tugging," just reality.DerekJohnson said:
Again, how? Do you think President Ana Marie Caus is going to fire a woman AD that she hired?NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Pete for AD?DerekJohnson said:
Who is going to fire her?BleachedAnusDawg said:
WSU has made better hires with far less resources than UW. Cohen needs to go, first.Neighbor2972 said:I mean sure, but I don't think a new AD will change much. We are not a school that is is serious about sports, and we don't have a Phil Knight that demands sports be taken seriously. Its hard for me to say that getting rid of Cohen will solve that problem.
We are fundamentally broken, and content with being an above average program that never really does anything. -
When she was hired I decried the nepotism and said this was going to be a disaster. Then when the football team began winning I gave her lots of credit and said she deserved praise for doing a good job.Swaye said:I was suckered in by Jens giant boobs. When I finally woke up from the titty fog, I realized she sucks.
But now in looking at the big picture, I'm not seeing much good being done, and I'm not optimistic. -
Sounds like you can't handle the ups and downs...DerekJohnson said:
When she was hired I decried the nepotism and said this was going to be a disaster. Then when the football team began winning I gave her lots of credit and said she deserved praise for doing a good job.Swaye said:I was suckered in by Jens giant boobs. When I finally woke up from the titty fog, I realized she sucks.
But now in looking at the big picture, I'm not seeing much good being done, and I'm not optimistic. -
We're serious about tranny softball, volleyball, intramural girl's basketball, and rowing.Neighbor2972 said:I mean sure, but I don't think a new AD will change much. We are not a school that is is serious about sports, and we don't have a Phil Knight that demands sports be taken seriously. Its hard for me to say that getting rid of Cohen will solve that problem.
We are fundamentally broken, and content with being an above average program that never really does anything.
We aren't serious about football and basketball like we should be. -
Tranny softball? C'mon now.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
We're serious about tranny softball, volleyball, intramural girl's basketball, and rowing.Neighbor2972 said:I mean sure, but I don't think a new AD will change much. We are not a school that is is serious about sports, and we don't have a Phil Knight that demands sports be taken seriously. Its hard for me to say that getting rid of Cohen will solve that problem.
We are fundamentally broken, and content with being an above average program that never really does anything.
We aren't serious about football and basketball like we should be. -
Lesbian softball. NTTAWWT.DerekJohnson said:
Tranny softball? C'mon now.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
We're serious about tranny softball, volleyball, intramural girl's basketball, and rowing.Neighbor2972 said:I mean sure, but I don't think a new AD will change much. We are not a school that is is serious about sports, and we don't have a Phil Knight that demands sports be taken seriously. Its hard for me to say that getting rid of Cohen will solve that problem.
We are fundamentally broken, and content with being an above average program that never really does anything.
We aren't serious about football and basketball like we should be. -
Good to know that it’s cool to say that women can’t be real sports fans but are only good for making chips and dip but tranny softball is over the line.
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What a FS take. Some of our row boat gals could shed a few pounds but there are no trannies. I speak from personal experience. Never once did I have a Lola type moment.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
We're serious about tranny softball, volleyball, intramural girl's basketball, and rowing.Neighbor2972 said:I mean sure, but I don't think a new AD will change much. We are not a school that is is serious about sports, and we don't have a Phil Knight that demands sports be taken seriously. Its hard for me to say that getting rid of Cohen will solve that problem.
We are fundamentally broken, and content with being an above average program that never really does anything.
We aren't serious about football and basketball like we should be. -
This take is as stale as this message board
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Let it fucking play out. Christ.
I get concerns and recruiting failures but I'm not going to dismiss a 3-1 division winning coach until he puts in a classic Pete 7-6 flaccid lose-to-Arizona-State type of season first. -
I tend to agree.haie said:Let it fucking play out. Christ.
I get concerns and recruiting failures but I'm not going to dismiss a 3-1 division winning coach until he puts in a classic Pete 7-6 flaccid lose-to-Arizona-State type of season first. -
Barely beat the Beav at home and should have lost to Utah. Yes, 3-1 is 3-1, but let's not ignore the red flags like going down 3 touchdowns each of their last 2 gameshaie said:Let it fucking play out. Christ.
I get concerns and recruiting failures but I'm not going to dismiss a 3-1 division winning coach until he puts in a classic Pete 7-6 flaccid lose-to-Arizona-State type of season first. -
I will admit that 2019's campaign and Covid FS ball has left me at a personal nadir for Husky Football enthusiasms (there's been some other since 1993, but this is right up there). Sure, there seem to be some concerns with recruiting, but I'm tired of the cult of TBS right now and DRGAF. When I see us land a 4 start kid, I think to myself he'll probably suck anyhow end end up the transfer portal; and that some 3 star kid will end up being all conference and get drafted on Day 1 or 2. So far as the coaching goes, can we, at least let Jimmy go 4-5 in conference before we fire his ass? I mean for fuck's sake, we no real sample pool of games to judge the guy as HC off of.haie said:Let it fucking play out. Christ.
I get concerns and recruiting failures but I'm not going to dismiss a 3-1 division winning coach until he puts in a classic Pete 7-6 flaccid lose-to-Arizona-State type of season first. -
Let’s just say that if you were an AD ... this is arguably the nightmare scenario what is going on right nowYellowSnow said:
I will admit that 2019's campaign and Covid FS ball has left me at a personal nadir for Husky Football enthusiasms (there's been some other since 1993, but this is right up there). Sure, there seem to be some concerns with recruiting, but I'm tired of the cult of TBS right now and DRGAF. When I see us land a 4 start kid, I think to myself he'll probably suck anyhow end end up the transfer portal; and that some 3 star kid will end up being all conference and get drafted on Day 1 or 2. So far as the coaching goes, can we, at least let Jimmy go 4-5 in conference before we fire his ass? I mean for fuck's sake, we no real sample pool of games to judge the guy as HC off of.haie said:Let it fucking play out. Christ.
I get concerns and recruiting failures but I'm not going to dismiss a 3-1 division winning coach until he puts in a classic Pete 7-6 flaccid lose-to-Arizona-State type of season first. -
Perspective yella. I'm real discouraged right now about UW. The direction looks really bad, and an ugly 3-1 against horrible competition, while not damning, wasn't enough to convince me that the onfield product is measurably better than the off field.YellowSnow said:
I will admit that 2019's campaign and Covid FS ball has left me at a personal nadir for Husky Football enthusiasms (there's been some other since 1993, but this is right up there). Sure, there seem to be some concerns with recruiting, but I'm tired of the cult of TBS right now and DRGAF. When I see us land a 4 start kid, I think to myself he'll probably suck anyhow end end up the transfer portal; and that some 3 star kid will end up being all conference and get drafted on Day 1 or 2. So far as the coaching goes, can we, at least let Jimmy go 4-5 in conference before we fire his ass? I mean for fuck's sake, we no real sample pool of games to judge the guy as HC off of.haie said:Let it fucking play out. Christ.
I get concerns and recruiting failures but I'm not going to dismiss a 3-1 division winning coach until he puts in a classic Pete 7-6 flaccid lose-to-Arizona-State type of season first.
I'm not firing anyone though. I'm just an internet coach and analyst. Lake gets a couple of full seasons, I think. I'm getting more confident that it's all going to shit and he'll be fired by 2023.
Whatever blowhard shit I spout about it here will be forgotten if he proves me wrong...at least I'll forget it and pretend I was right all along. -
A nightmare scenario was one of the most celebrated HC's of the past 20 years, underachieving and then getting burned out at UW.Tequilla said:
Let’s just say that if you were an AD ... this is arguably the nightmare scenario what is going on right nowYellowSnow said:
I will admit that 2019's campaign and Covid FS ball has left me at a personal nadir for Husky Football enthusiasms (there's been some other since 1993, but this is right up there). Sure, there seem to be some concerns with recruiting, but I'm tired of the cult of TBS right now and DRGAF. When I see us land a 4 start kid, I think to myself he'll probably suck anyhow end end up the transfer portal; and that some 3 star kid will end up being all conference and get drafted on Day 1 or 2. So far as the coaching goes, can we, at least let Jimmy go 4-5 in conference before we fire his ass? I mean for fuck's sake, we no real sample pool of games to judge the guy as HC off of.haie said:Let it fucking play out. Christ.
I get concerns and recruiting failures but I'm not going to dismiss a 3-1 division winning coach until he puts in a classic Pete 7-6 flaccid lose-to-Arizona-State type of season first.
I can't formulate an informed opinion of Jimmy Lake w/o seeing, at least, 12 games of REAL fucking football with fans in the stands.
All we're dealing with right now is hypotheticals. I recall a time when EVERYONE here fucking loved Jimmy Lake. Now he's a failed HC after a 4 game season. -
The Jimmy backlash is primarily do to off the field performance although the team's on field performance wasn't exactly encouraging either outside of 3 quarters of beating up on the worse team in the conference. The uninspired external hires (Donovan, Brown), lazy internal promotions (Cato, Gregory, Rowan), and the mind boggling promotion of Justin Glenn are all major red flags. Of course this is HH so the biggest issue most fans have is the limp dick recruiting and letting Cristobal punk him and steal his lunch money. I suspect they offered Jones just to fuck with Jimmy to show everyone they can but without any intention of actually accepting his commitment. After one calendar year there isn't much to be encouraged about with Jimmy's tenure so far. The only hope at this point is the team plays up to its talent level and rolls through the conference this fall.YellowSnow said:
A nightmare scenario was one of the most celebrated HC's of the past 20 years, underachieving and then getting burned out at UW.Tequilla said:
Let’s just say that if you were an AD ... this is arguably the nightmare scenario what is going on right nowYellowSnow said:
I will admit that 2019's campaign and Covid FS ball has left me at a personal nadir for Husky Football enthusiasms (there's been some other since 1993, but this is right up there). Sure, there seem to be some concerns with recruiting, but I'm tired of the cult of TBS right now and DRGAF. When I see us land a 4 start kid, I think to myself he'll probably suck anyhow end end up the transfer portal; and that some 3 star kid will end up being all conference and get drafted on Day 1 or 2. So far as the coaching goes, can we, at least let Jimmy go 4-5 in conference before we fire his ass? I mean for fuck's sake, we no real sample pool of games to judge the guy as HC off of.haie said:Let it fucking play out. Christ.
I get concerns and recruiting failures but I'm not going to dismiss a 3-1 division winning coach until he puts in a classic Pete 7-6 flaccid lose-to-Arizona-State type of season first.
I can't formulate an informed opinion of Jimmy Lake w/o seeing, at least, 12 games of REAL fucking football with fans in the stands.
All we're dealing with right now is hypotheticals. I recall a time when EVERYONE here fucking loved Jimmy Lake. Now he's a failed HC after a 4 game season. -
On the field winning trumps everything else. There's a lot of talent on this team in '21 and we got Oregon at home w/o a NFL Offensive ROTY at QB. Winning the PAC is achievable in year 1.5 for Jimmy.insinceredawg said:
The Jimmy backlash is primarily do to off the field performance although the team's on field performance wasn't exactly encouraging either outside of 3 quarters of beating up on the worse team in the conference. The uninspired external hires (Donovan, Brown), lazy internal promotions (Cato, Gregory, Rowan), and the mind boggling promotion of Justin Glenn are all major red flags. Of course this is HH so the biggest issue most fans have is the limp dick recruiting and letting Cristobal punk him and steal his lunch money. I suspect they offered Jones just to fuck with Jimmy to show everyone they can but without any intention of actually accepting his commitment. After one calendar year there isn't much to be encouraged about with Jimmy's tenure so far. The only hope at this point is the team plays up to its talent level and rolls through the conference this fall.YellowSnow said:
A nightmare scenario was one of the most celebrated HC's of the past 20 years, underachieving and then getting burned out at UW.Tequilla said:
Let’s just say that if you were an AD ... this is arguably the nightmare scenario what is going on right nowYellowSnow said:
I will admit that 2019's campaign and Covid FS ball has left me at a personal nadir for Husky Football enthusiasms (there's been some other since 1993, but this is right up there). Sure, there seem to be some concerns with recruiting, but I'm tired of the cult of TBS right now and DRGAF. When I see us land a 4 start kid, I think to myself he'll probably suck anyhow end end up the transfer portal; and that some 3 star kid will end up being all conference and get drafted on Day 1 or 2. So far as the coaching goes, can we, at least let Jimmy go 4-5 in conference before we fire his ass? I mean for fuck's sake, we no real sample pool of games to judge the guy as HC off of.haie said:Let it fucking play out. Christ.
I get concerns and recruiting failures but I'm not going to dismiss a 3-1 division winning coach until he puts in a classic Pete 7-6 flaccid lose-to-Arizona-State type of season first.
I can't formulate an informed opinion of Jimmy Lake w/o seeing, at least, 12 games of REAL fucking football with fans in the stands.
All we're dealing with right now is hypotheticals. I recall a time when EVERYONE here fucking loved Jimmy Lake. Now he's a failed HC after a 4 game season.
Iron Law says he'll be mediocre to shitty. I don't need all the lost off season natty shit to know that. But he still gets his change to prove it on the field or not. Them's the rules. -
You’re right with Pete and that’s fairly bad ... it goes to show why it’s so important to manage key person risk well and for leaders to mitigate that situation with contingency plansYellowSnow said:
A nightmare scenario was one of the most celebrated HC's of the past 20 years, underachieving and then getting burned out at UW.Tequilla said:
Let’s just say that if you were an AD ... this is arguably the nightmare scenario what is going on right nowYellowSnow said:
I will admit that 2019's campaign and Covid FS ball has left me at a personal nadir for Husky Football enthusiasms (there's been some other since 1993, but this is right up there). Sure, there seem to be some concerns with recruiting, but I'm tired of the cult of TBS right now and DRGAF. When I see us land a 4 start kid, I think to myself he'll probably suck anyhow end end up the transfer portal; and that some 3 star kid will end up being all conference and get drafted on Day 1 or 2. So far as the coaching goes, can we, at least let Jimmy go 4-5 in conference before we fire his ass? I mean for fuck's sake, we no real sample pool of games to judge the guy as HC off of.haie said:Let it fucking play out. Christ.
I get concerns and recruiting failures but I'm not going to dismiss a 3-1 division winning coach until he puts in a classic Pete 7-6 flaccid lose-to-Arizona-State type of season first.
I can't formulate an informed opinion of Jimmy Lake w/o seeing, at least, 12 games of REAL fucking football with fans in the stands.
All we're dealing with right now is hypotheticals. I recall a time when EVERYONE here fucking loved Jimmy Lake. Now he's a failed HC after a 4 game season.
The big thing that bothers me in hindsight is that it seems pretty clear that Pete kept everything close to the vest with how he was feeling. As a result it effectively blindsided Jen (given that we know that she doesn’t do a good job of being forward looking). As a result there was the panic to hire Jimmy.
Simply put, it’s really hard to look at Jimmy at this point and not come to the conclusion that his “brand” outside of UW wasn’t what people thought it was early in 2020. Obviously lots to consider on that but also fair to say Jimmy had never had to illustrate what he’d do as a head coach ... instead he was gifted the job.
It’s my opinion, but you can’t really convince me that K leaving was just because he was ready for a new challenge. The logical reasons aren’t the $$$ ... it’s that there was some kind of internal power struggle on the D and/or tK’s reality that Jimmy frankly isn’t good enough to win at a high level (and who has better insights on that than K?) ...
And that’s why I’m saying this is such a bad spot ... 3-1 and winning the North is something Jimmy can point to and say to any naysayer that he knows what he’s doing. He’s almost assuredly going to have a strong roster next year with all the experience coming back. You know Jimmy’s going to leverage that for a raise (he’s paid the same as BC’s HC for example) or listen to other opportunities. The trending with recruiting and staff hires/backfills would suggest that the future is bearish.
Now let’s say you extend and give Jimmy a raise and that contract and eventual buyout of things go south looks terribly shitty. Don’t buy out the contract fast enough and maybe you get back down to 2003 Gilby, 2006/2007 Ty, or mediocre Sark levels with the reputation taking probably another 5 years after that to rebuild.
On the other hand, you don’t extend Jimmy, he bolts ASAP, and you become a tough job to hire for as coaches point to a lack of commitment (and that’s on top of recruiting implications).
The above paints you into a corner where Jimmy basically has to be successful with his process and strategy. Either that or he jumps before the relationship goes sour.
That all assumes 2021 is a successful year ... Jimmy has all the leverage with a 1 or 2 loss season. But if he throws out a 8-5 type season ... while the hire looks like shit ... you’re likely not committing additional years/raise and can feel a little more confident laying there foundation for the next coach.
If there’s a takeaway it’s that the way I see it is that with Jimmy I feel like we’re betting on a 4 outer or worse from a poker standpoint. Too many outcomes don’t come out in a positive manner and the worst outcomes could be devastating. Nothing about this situation feels good. -
I feel better about Jimmy already
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If this post is aimed toward me, I never said it was cool to say that about women.FremontTroll said:Good to know that it’s cool to say that women can’t be real sports fans but are only good for making chips and dip but tranny softball is over the line.
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My biggest problem with it is how much of a pass Pete got for at least 1/3 of his seasons here.YellowSnow said:
I will admit that 2019's campaign and Covid FS ball has left me at a personal nadir for Husky Football enthusiasms (there's been some other since 1993, but this is right up there). Sure, there seem to be some concerns with recruiting, but I'm tired of the cult of TBS right now and DRGAF. When I see us land a 4 start kid, I think to myself he'll probably suck anyhow end end up the transfer portal; and that some 3 star kid will end up being all conference and get drafted on Day 1 or 2. So far as the coaching goes, can we, at least let Jimmy go 4-5 in conference before we fire his ass? I mean for fuck's sake, we no real sample pool of games to judge the guy as HC off of.haie said:Let it fucking play out. Christ.
I get concerns and recruiting failures but I'm not going to dismiss a 3-1 division winning coach until he puts in a classic Pete 7-6 flaccid lose-to-Arizona-State type of season first.
2014 some guys didn't like the staff. That's not an excuse to barely beat eastern and go 8-6 and lose to Oklahoma State in a bowl game.
2015 is a bigger indictment on Pete than 2019. You have the core of your playoff roster plus an NFL linebacker in his senior year and another reliable and good pass rusher in college. Zero fucking excuse to lose to Boise, Oregon, Cal, Utah, and especially Arizona State who you fucking shredded in the first half and then melted down against.
Pete has recruited well but the direction has been a lot of soft finesse players and schemes on offense resulting in transfers and instability on that side of the ball which were still trying to fix. He might have been worse on offense than Leach ever was on defense, which is saying something.
Maybe Jimmy's problem right now is he's trying to overcorrect the soft Pete stuff from just a year ago.
