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Liz Cheney: Trump ‘does not have a role’ leading Republicans going forward

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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    Liz Cheney not nuts enough for many here.

    Sad!

    So you can't cite for us the policy positions Mitt supposedly adopted that made him too extreme for you, despite the fact that this has been your go to excuse for voting for Obama for over 8 years now.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited February 2021
    Btw, I love how the Dazzler calls the GOP a "shit show of a party" and claiming that he just can't vote for them because of it, while taking zero responsibility for the actions and policies being pushed by the party he does vote for.

    Allowing open trannies to compete against girls in Sports? Dazzler doesn't support that. Nor did Dazzler support open borders. Iran nuke deal? Naaah, Dazzler didn't support that either. DA's that refuse to prosecute criminals? Nope, no support from the Dazzler for that. Affirmative action, CRT, defund the police, Dazzler doesn't support any of that, but for some odd reason he votes for people who do.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,045

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    If we let suburban women run this country, we are phu*cked. Phucking helicopter mom's emasculating their boys is one reason we elected a dementia patient. Soi boys and Karen's are why we shut down the country.
    Maybe down in Oregon that's how it plays. But up here in Bothell, suburban women are raising boys that are plenty tuff. I hear there are even some over in Woodinville too.

    @DerekJohnson true?
    How come high school boys aren't in school and playing football? Someone is electing Kate Brown, Jay Inslee and Bai Den.

    I'd prefer a centrist guy (or gal) who wasn't tweeting 18 times a day and had some decorum, but who embraced America 1 and wasn't corporate American's beeotch

    Really? Who would you prefer? Name that "centrist". And trying to end open borders, trying to stop chicom IP theft and negotiating trade deals that were beneficial to the US and ending forever wars and treaties with Middle East countries that EVERY dem said would never happen unless we let the Palis have Israel isn't centrist?. Best middle class wage increases in decades? To be honest, when someone says they are a "centrist" I assume they are lying. So, give it a go.
    I don't have some magical name. I voted not so much for Trump, but against Biden and what the Dems turned into. Trump did some good things, but he's not some saint.
    Who here nominated Trump for saint hood? No one. Not even close. And yet you threw this out, why? When you are humping straw man ass you might want to step back and think, unless that's your thing. You just said you preferred some centrist but you have no idea who that may be but you chose to dump on Trump for as still unnamed policy position that isn't centrist? Not necessarily lying, but pretty soft thinking.
    IDK. I'm just sayin'.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,748 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2021

    I'd prefer a centrist guy (or gal) who wasn't tweeting 18 times a day and had some decorum, but who embraced America 1 and wasn't corporate American's beeotch

    Really? Who would you prefer? Name that "centrist". And trying to end open borders, trying to stop chicom IP theft and negotiating trade deals that were beneficial to the US and ending forever wars and treaties with Middle East countries that EVERY dem said would never happen unless we let the Palis have Israel isn't centrist?. Best middle class wage increases in decades? To be honest, when someone says they are a "centrist" I assume they are lying. So, give it a go.
    A centrist these days is a socialist wishing for communism. The left is communism. The far left are NAZI's and the right is still way left of where they should be.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,045
    Sledog said:

    I'd prefer a centrist guy (or gal) who wasn't tweeting 18 times a day and had some decorum, but who embraced America 1 and wasn't corporate American's beeotch

    Really? Who would you prefer? Name that "centrist". And trying to end open borders, trying to stop chicom IP theft and negotiating trade deals that were beneficial to the US and ending forever wars and treaties with Middle East countries that EVERY dem said would never happen unless we let the Palis have Israel isn't centrist?. Best middle class wage increases in decades? To be honest, when someone says they are a "centrist" I assume they are lying. So, give it a go.
    A centrist these days is a socialist wishing for communism. The left is communism. The far left are NAZI's and the right is still way left of where they should be.
    Wow. Two Americas indeed.

    This might make convince me there are three Idahos. @PurpleThrobber true?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,063

    Sledog said:

    I'd prefer a centrist guy (or gal) who wasn't tweeting 18 times a day and had some decorum, but who embraced America 1 and wasn't corporate American's beeotch

    Really? Who would you prefer? Name that "centrist". And trying to end open borders, trying to stop chicom IP theft and negotiating trade deals that were beneficial to the US and ending forever wars and treaties with Middle East countries that EVERY dem said would never happen unless we let the Palis have Israel isn't centrist?. Best middle class wage increases in decades? To be honest, when someone says they are a "centrist" I assume they are lying. So, give it a go.
    A centrist these days is a socialist wishing for communism. The left is communism. The far left are NAZI's and the right is still way left of where they should be.
    Wow. Two Americas indeed.

    This might make convince me there are three Idahos. @PurpleThrobber true?
    Just two.

    The good folks from here and the faggots from somewhere else.

    Very simple.

  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Democrats control all three branches of government and instead of affecting fundamental change, they choose to waste their time chasing Trump
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,613 Standard Supporter

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    If we let suburban women run this country, we are phu*cked. Phucking helicopter mom's emasculating their boys is one reason we elected a dementia patient. Soi boys and Karen's are why we shut down the country.
    Maybe down in Oregon that's how it plays. But up here in Bothell, suburban women are raising boys that are plenty tuff. I hear there are even some over in Woodinville too.

    @DerekJohnson true?
    How come high school boys aren't in school and playing football? Someone is electing Kate Brown, Jay Inslee and Bai Den.

    I'd prefer a centrist guy (or gal) who wasn't tweeting 18 times a day and had some decorum, but who embraced America 1 and wasn't corporate American's beeotch

    Really? Who would you prefer? Name that "centrist". And trying to end open borders, trying to stop chicom IP theft and negotiating trade deals that were beneficial to the US and ending forever wars and treaties with Middle East countries that EVERY dem said would never happen unless we let the Palis have Israel isn't centrist?. Best middle class wage increases in decades? To be honest, when someone says they are a "centrist" I assume they are lying. So, give it a go.
    I don't have some magical name. I voted not so much for Trump, but against Biden and what the Dems turned into. Trump did some good things, but he's not some saint.
    Who here nominated Trump for saint hood? No one. Not even close. And yet you threw this out, why? When you are humping straw man ass you might want to step back and think, unless that's your thing. You just said you preferred some centrist but you have no idea who that may be but you chose to dump on Trump for as still unnamed policy position that isn't centrist? Not necessarily lying, but pretty soft thinking.
    Good policy positions: trade, immigration, economic growth, foreign policy (wars - lack thereof), Mideast Peace agreement, and for lack of a better term - he's on the right side of the far left's culture wars and destruction of the family

    I'm saying I don't like his antics, lies, tweeting the threatened destruction of N Korea - things like that. I know a lot here shrug and say they're all the same and rationalize. So be it. He's simply the lesser of the evils to me and the Dimocrats are power hungry and extremely corrupt.

    It took me a while to see his effectiveness and the massive extent of the media's lies, so if it's Cameltoe vs. him in four years, sure I go with him.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,748 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    I'd prefer a centrist guy (or gal) who wasn't tweeting 18 times a day and had some decorum, but who embraced America 1 and wasn't corporate American's beeotch

    Really? Who would you prefer? Name that "centrist". And trying to end open borders, trying to stop chicom IP theft and negotiating trade deals that were beneficial to the US and ending forever wars and treaties with Middle East countries that EVERY dem said would never happen unless we let the Palis have Israel isn't centrist?. Best middle class wage increases in decades? To be honest, when someone says they are a "centrist" I assume they are lying. So, give it a go.
    A centrist these days is a socialist wishing for communism. The left is communism. The far left are NAZI's and the right is still way left of where they should be.
    Wow. Two Americas indeed.

    This might make convince me there are three Idahos. @PurpleThrobber true?
    JFK would be a John Bircher.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    It would be a symptom of very bad shit coming in the next 3 years.
    I agree with this

    I’ve heard a lot of my Democratic friends say that Trump needs to be impeached so he doesn’t run in 2024 ...

    When I respond that there’s no logical reason that he’d win ... the Dem will say but yes he can

    At which point I remember that Biden/Harris have an opportunity to be so disastrous that Trump somehow looks appealing again
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    It shouldn't be a cult of personality. I'd take someone with the exact same domestic and foreign policy positions as Trump but who wasn't Trump. Would like to see someone who was better on spending. But as far as judicial appointments, sticking it to China and Iran, energy, illegal immigration and the border, opposition to critical race theory, mainstreaming trannies, and economics give me Trump.
    Exactly

    This is effectively the point I’ve been trying to make over the last month plus ...

    Many of the items that you’ve noted I actually think you’ll find people largely agree with ... and in particular those that don’t understand China today I suspect will have a better understanding by 2024

    Bill said it best by saying he’d like someone with some decorum ... that’s a requirement when it comes to winning those suburban votes that Trump lost in 2020
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    I don’t have a name for you but, the GOP needs to find a candidate that appeals to Trump voters.
    This is the challenge for the GOP ...

    They can’t win without pulling in the centrist voters ...

    At the same time they can’t win with the ultra right wing fringe edge of the party ... who are Trump minions at this point ...

    But the centrist voters have no desire to be connected with that far right wing ...

    So something has to give at this point
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    I don’t have a name for you but, the GOP needs to find a candidate that appeals to Trump voters.
    This is the challenge for the GOP ...

    They can’t win without pulling in the centrist voters ...

    At the same time they can’t win with the ultra right wing fringe edge of the party ... who are Trump minions at this point ...

    But the centrist voters have no desire to be connected with that far right wing ...

    So something has to give at this point
    Fuck off
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    I don’t have a name for you but, the GOP needs to find a candidate that appeals to Trump voters.
    This is the challenge for the GOP ...

    They can’t win without pulling in the centrist voters ...

    At the same time they can’t win with the ultra right wing fringe edge of the party ... who are Trump minions at this point ...

    But the centrist voters have no desire to be connected with that far right wing ...

    So something has to give at this point
    Fuck off
    Go take your meds Gramps
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    I don’t have a name for you but, the GOP needs to find a candidate that appeals to Trump voters.
    This is the challenge for the GOP ...

    They can’t win without pulling in the centrist voters ...

    At the same time they can’t win with the ultra right wing fringe edge of the party ... who are Trump minions at this point ...

    But the centrist voters have no desire to be connected with that far right wing ...

    So something has to give at this point
    Fuck off
    This @Tequilla seems to think that Romney and Cheney are the future of the GOP.

    They’re not. Cheney will be primaries out next spring and Romney will run for the GOP presidential nomination starting in 2023 and will get his ass kicked in the primaries:
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    I don’t have a name for you but, the GOP needs to find a candidate that appeals to Trump voters.
    This is the challenge for the GOP ...

    They can’t win without pulling in the centrist voters ...

    At the same time they can’t win with the ultra right wing fringe edge of the party ... who are Trump minions at this point ...

    But the centrist voters have no desire to be connected with that far right wing ...

    So something has to give at this point
    Fuck off
    This @Tequilla seems to think that Romney and Cheney are the future of the GOP.

    They’re not. Cheney will be primaries out next spring and Romney will run for the GOP presidential nomination starting in 2023 and will get his ass kicked in the primaries:
    Point to any place where I’ve said that?

    What I’ve said is that they can’t run someone as abrasive as Trump and appeal to the suburban voter ... and the reason I say that as I’ve had more than a few say that to me

    I’m not endorsing anybody in 2024 at this point because they need to go through the grinder ... but for example I don’t see someone like Noem or Haley as being off putting to suburban voters based on temperament
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited February 2021
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    I don’t have a name for you but, the GOP needs to find a candidate that appeals to Trump voters.
    This is the challenge for the GOP ...

    They can’t win without pulling in the centrist voters ...

    At the same time they can’t win with the ultra right wing fringe edge of the party ... who are Trump minions at this point ...

    But the centrist voters have no desire to be connected with that far right wing ...

    So something has to give at this point
    Fuck off
    This @Tequilla seems to think that Romney and Cheney are the future of the GOP.

    They’re not. Cheney will be primaries out next spring and Romney will run for the GOP presidential nomination starting in 2023 and will get his ass kicked in the primaries:
    Point to any place where I’ve said that?

    What I’ve said is that they can’t run someone as abrasive as Trump and appeal to the suburban voter ... and the reason I say that as I’ve had more than a few say that to me

    I’m not endorsing anybody in 2024 at this point because they need to go through the grinder ... but for example I don’t see someone like Noem or Haley as being off putting to suburban voters based on temperament
    It’s funny that it appears you don’t think the Left will crush any “centrist” GOP with their media.

    Bush is a war criminal!! Wait, the Left likes him now.

    McCain has an affair! Wait, he didn’t.

    Romney killed some lady by taking away her health insurance and had Binders Full of Women! Biden’s VP search was limited to women in a binder.

    Wake up. You’re a populist at this point or a statist. There is no centrist.

    Biden lying and then putting tens of thousands out of work when he promised he wouldn’t is the tell. I’ll go with populism all the time.

    Good luck with Mitt and Rubio.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,677 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    I don’t have a name for you but, the GOP needs to find a candidate that appeals to Trump voters.
    This is the challenge for the GOP ...

    They can’t win without pulling in the centrist voters ...

    At the same time they can’t win with the ultra right wing fringe edge of the party ... who are Trump minions at this point ...

    But the centrist voters have no desire to be connected with that far right wing ...

    So something has to give at this point
    He lost by 42k votes. Too many extreme statements in your posts, that’s a rounding error as you know.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    I don’t have a name for you but, the GOP needs to find a candidate that appeals to Trump voters.
    This is the challenge for the GOP ...

    They can’t win without pulling in the centrist voters ...

    At the same time they can’t win with the ultra right wing fringe edge of the party ... who are Trump minions at this point ...

    But the centrist voters have no desire to be connected with that far right wing ...

    So something has to give at this point
    Fuck off
    This @Tequilla seems to think that Romney and Cheney are the future of the GOP.

    They’re not. Cheney will be primaries out next spring and Romney will run for the GOP presidential nomination starting in 2023 and will get his ass kicked in the primaries:
    Point to any place where I’ve said that?

    What I’ve said is that they can’t run someone as abrasive as Trump and appeal to the suburban voter ... and the reason I say that as I’ve had more than a few say that to me

    I’m not endorsing anybody in 2024 at this point because they need to go through the grinder ... but for example I don’t see someone like Noem or Haley as being off putting to suburban voters based on temperament
    Fuck off
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,661
    His role is the same as it's always been -- wear his emperor's new clothes
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Trump won once but couldn’t do it a second time while holding the highest office in the most powerful country ever. Thus he is a looser. Imagine being an incumbent president and losing to an opponent everyone agrees in some stage of dementia. The GOP needs to move the fuck on to find the next winner and stop dwelling on possibility of making Trump into the next retread joke.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    I don’t have a name for you but, the GOP needs to find a candidate that appeals to Trump voters.
    This is the challenge for the GOP ...

    They can’t win without pulling in the centrist voters ...

    At the same time they can’t win with the ultra right wing fringe edge of the party ... who are Trump minions at this point ...

    But the centrist voters have no desire to be connected with that far right wing ...

    So something has to give at this point
    Fuck off
    This @Tequilla seems to think that Romney and Cheney are the future of the GOP.

    They’re not. Cheney will be primaries out next spring and Romney will run for the GOP presidential nomination starting in 2023 and will get his ass kicked in the primaries:
    Point to any place where I’ve said that?

    What I’ve said is that they can’t run someone as abrasive as Trump and appeal to the suburban voter ... and the reason I say that as I’ve had more than a few say that to me

    I’m not endorsing anybody in 2024 at this point because they need to go through the grinder ... but for example I don’t see someone like Noem or Haley as being off putting to suburban voters based on temperament
    It’s funny that it appears you don’t think the Left will crush any “centrist” GOP with their media.

    Bush is a war criminal!! Wait, the Left likes him now.

    McCain has an affair! Wait, he didn’t.

    Romney killed some lady by taking away her health insurance and had Binders Full of Women! Biden’s VP search was limited to women in a binder.

    Wake up. You’re a populist at this point or a statist. There is no centrist.

    Biden lying and then putting tens of thousands out of work when he promised he wouldn’t is the tell. I’ll go with populism all the time.

    Good luck with Mitt and Rubio.
    The Libs are clearly going to leverage the media as they can ... that works as long as people care about what the media says

    Reality is most people think Government is corrupt and the news media is highly biased (both ways)

    Feel free to disagree with me .. . but the GOP racing hard right isn’t going to win an election in the near term if that path includes Trump
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Bob_C said:

    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    I don’t have a name for you but, the GOP needs to find a candidate that appeals to Trump voters.
    This is the challenge for the GOP ...

    They can’t win without pulling in the centrist voters ...

    At the same time they can’t win with the ultra right wing fringe edge of the party ... who are Trump minions at this point ...

    But the centrist voters have no desire to be connected with that far right wing ...

    So something has to give at this point
    He lost by 42k votes. Too many extreme statements in your posts, that’s a rounding error as you know.
    And there’s been a shitshow by Trump since those votes were cast ...

    I’d agree that 42K isn’t a crazy number in the grand scheme of things

    I think that number is greater than 42K given what has happened
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    Enjoy Biden

    He's your speed
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    I don’t have a name for you but, the GOP needs to find a candidate that appeals to Trump voters.
    This is the challenge for the GOP ...

    They can’t win without pulling in the centrist voters ...

    At the same time they can’t win with the ultra right wing fringe edge of the party ... who are Trump minions at this point ...

    But the centrist voters have no desire to be connected with that far right wing ...

    So something has to give at this point
    Fuck off
    This @Tequilla seems to think that Romney and Cheney are the future of the GOP.

    They’re not. Cheney will be primaries out next spring and Romney will run for the GOP presidential nomination starting in 2023 and will get his ass kicked in the primaries:
    Point to any place where I’ve said that?

    What I’ve said is that they can’t run someone as abrasive as Trump and appeal to the suburban voter ... and the reason I say that as I’ve had more than a few say that to me

    I’m not endorsing anybody in 2024 at this point because they need to go through the grinder ... but for example I don’t see someone like Noem or Haley as being off putting to suburban voters based on temperament
    It’s funny that it appears you don’t think the Left will crush any “centrist” GOP with their media.

    Bush is a war criminal!! Wait, the Left likes him now.

    McCain has an affair! Wait, he didn’t.

    Romney killed some lady by taking away her health insurance and had Binders Full of Women! Biden’s VP search was limited to women in a binder.

    Wake up. You’re a populist at this point or a statist. There is no centrist.

    Biden lying and then putting tens of thousands out of work when he promised he wouldn’t is the tell. I’ll go with populism all the time.

    Good luck with Mitt and Rubio.
    The Libs are clearly going to leverage the media as they can ... that works as long as people care about what the media says

    Reality is most people think Government is corrupt and the news media is highly biased (both ways)

    Feel free to disagree with me .. . but the GOP racing hard right isn’t going to win an election in the near term if that path includes Trump
    I’m sorry you can’t see through the fog. You will at some point.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    I don’t have a name for you but, the GOP needs to find a candidate that appeals to Trump voters.
    This is the challenge for the GOP ...

    They can’t win without pulling in the centrist voters ...

    At the same time they can’t win with the ultra right wing fringe edge of the party ... who are Trump minions at this point ...

    But the centrist voters have no desire to be connected with that far right wing ...

    So something has to give at this point
    Fuck off
    This @Tequilla seems to think that Romney and Cheney are the future of the GOP.

    They’re not. Cheney will be primaries out next spring and Romney will run for the GOP presidential nomination starting in 2023 and will get his ass kicked in the primaries:
    Point to any place where I’ve said that?

    What I’ve said is that they can’t run someone as abrasive as Trump and appeal to the suburban voter ... and the reason I say that as I’ve had more than a few say that to me

    I’m not endorsing anybody in 2024 at this point because they need to go through the grinder ... but for example I don’t see someone like Noem or Haley as being off putting to suburban voters based on temperament
    It’s funny that it appears you don’t think the Left will crush any “centrist” GOP with their media.

    Bush is a war criminal!! Wait, the Left likes him now.

    McCain has an affair! Wait, he didn’t.

    Romney killed some lady by taking away her health insurance and had Binders Full of Women! Biden’s VP search was limited to women in a binder.

    Wake up. You’re a populist at this point or a statist. There is no centrist.

    Biden lying and then putting tens of thousands out of work when he promised he wouldn’t is the tell. I’ll go with populism all the time.

    Good luck with Mitt and Rubio.
    The Libs are clearly going to leverage the media as they can ... that works as long as people care about what the media says

    Reality is most people think Government is corrupt and the news media is highly biased (both ways)

    Feel free to disagree with me .. . but the GOP racing hard right isn’t going to win an election in the near term if that path includes Trump
    I’m sorry you can’t see through the fog. You will at some point.
    A race to the ends of the spectrum by both sides will destroy the country
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,063
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    I don’t have a name for you but, the GOP needs to find a candidate that appeals to Trump voters.
    This is the challenge for the GOP ...

    They can’t win without pulling in the centrist voters ...

    At the same time they can’t win with the ultra right wing fringe edge of the party ... who are Trump minions at this point ...

    But the centrist voters have no desire to be connected with that far right wing ...

    So something has to give at this point
    Fuck off
    This @Tequilla seems to think that Romney and Cheney are the future of the GOP.

    They’re not. Cheney will be primaries out next spring and Romney will run for the GOP presidential nomination starting in 2023 and will get his ass kicked in the primaries:
    Point to any place where I’ve said that?

    What I’ve said is that they can’t run someone as abrasive as Trump and appeal to the suburban voter ... and the reason I say that as I’ve had more than a few say that to me

    I’m not endorsing anybody in 2024 at this point because they need to go through the grinder ... but for example I don’t see someone like Noem or Haley as being off putting to suburban voters based on temperament
    It’s funny that it appears you don’t think the Left will crush any “centrist” GOP with their media.

    Bush is a war criminal!! Wait, the Left likes him now.

    McCain has an affair! Wait, he didn’t.

    Romney killed some lady by taking away her health insurance and had Binders Full of Women! Biden’s VP search was limited to women in a binder.

    Wake up. You’re a populist at this point or a statist. There is no centrist.

    Biden lying and then putting tens of thousands out of work when he promised he wouldn’t is the tell. I’ll go with populism all the time.

    Good luck with Mitt and Rubio.
    The Libs are clearly going to leverage the media as they can ... that works as long as people care about what the media says

    Reality is most people think Government is corrupt and the news media is highly biased (both ways)

    Feel free to disagree with me .. . but the GOP racing hard right isn’t going to win an election in the near term if that path includes Trump
    I’m sorry you can’t see through the fog. You will at some point.
    A race to the ends of the spectrum by both sides will destroy the country
    The left already did.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    I don’t have a name for you but, the GOP needs to find a candidate that appeals to Trump voters.
    This is the challenge for the GOP ...

    They can’t win without pulling in the centrist voters ...

    At the same time they can’t win with the ultra right wing fringe edge of the party ... who are Trump minions at this point ...

    But the centrist voters have no desire to be connected with that far right wing ...

    So something has to give at this point
    Fuck off
    This @Tequilla seems to think that Romney and Cheney are the future of the GOP.

    They’re not. Cheney will be primaries out next spring and Romney will run for the GOP presidential nomination starting in 2023 and will get his ass kicked in the primaries:
    Point to any place where I’ve said that?

    What I’ve said is that they can’t run someone as abrasive as Trump and appeal to the suburban voter ... and the reason I say that as I’ve had more than a few say that to me

    I’m not endorsing anybody in 2024 at this point because they need to go through the grinder ... but for example I don’t see someone like Noem or Haley as being off putting to suburban voters based on temperament
    It’s funny that it appears you don’t think the Left will crush any “centrist” GOP with their media.

    Bush is a war criminal!! Wait, the Left likes him now.

    McCain has an affair! Wait, he didn’t.

    Romney killed some lady by taking away her health insurance and had Binders Full of Women! Biden’s VP search was limited to women in a binder.

    Wake up. You’re a populist at this point or a statist. There is no centrist.

    Biden lying and then putting tens of thousands out of work when he promised he wouldn’t is the tell. I’ll go with populism all the time.

    Good luck with Mitt and Rubio.
    The Libs are clearly going to leverage the media as they can ... that works as long as people care about what the media says

    Reality is most people think Government is corrupt and the news media is highly biased (both ways)

    Feel free to disagree with me .. . but the GOP racing hard right isn’t going to win an election in the near term if that path includes Trump
    I’m sorry you can’t see through the fog. You will at some point.
    A race to the ends of the spectrum by both sides will destroy the country
    I’ll be 45 this year and I’ve never seen one party shut down some businesses while keeping others that are large corporate PAC donors open to get more business in my life. Never been told to wear a mask before.

    You seem to think it’s unintentional. Wake up.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,613 Standard Supporter
    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    If Trump runs and wins in 2024 this country is beyond fucked

    It’s one thing to embrace a number of Trump’s policies ... another to be as blunt and in your face as he is

    GOP needs to run someone that appeals better to the suburbs (particularly women)

    Go ahead and flag away

    I don’t have a name for you but, the GOP needs to find a candidate that appeals to Trump voters.
    This is the challenge for the GOP ...

    They can’t win without pulling in the centrist voters ...

    At the same time they can’t win with the ultra right wing fringe edge of the party ... who are Trump minions at this point ...

    But the centrist voters have no desire to be connected with that far right wing ...

    So something has to give at this point
    I've already been lumped in. Sociopath. Ghoul. Nazi. Racist. Sexist. Homophobe. Cretin. You name it. SJWs are the unhinged useful idiots. It's sticks and stones at this point. I've ghosted the ones in real life who act like toddlers.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter

    Trump won once but couldn’t do it a second time while holding the highest office in the most powerful country ever. Thus he is a looser. Imagine being an incumbent president and losing to an opponent everyone agrees in some stage of dementia. The GOP needs to move the fuck on to find the next winner and stop dwelling on possibility of making Trump into the next retread joke.

    He lost because of the chicom crud, something he had nothing to do with. The dems were happy to destroy small businesses by the hundreds of thousands and put tens of millions out of work. Then adopted at best extremely loose voting procedures without state legislature approval. Not sure how that makes Trump a loser. Makes millions of Americans losers. Jeb or Rubio is probably ready for a middle of the road run that will result in Maverick and Mitten scale loses.