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Sark or Lambo: who was worse?

Gladstone
Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
edited June 2014 in Hardcore Husky Board
Is it worse to inherit greatness and plummet into average or to inherit dogshit and crawl onto a plateau of mediocrity?

Who had the best win? Probably Lambo's whammy in Miami.

Who had the worst loss? I say 2012 Apple Cup. Amazingly there were still legions and legions of doogs frothing at the mouth defending Sark after that one.

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  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    Sark was worse. Lambo did mediocre the right way.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,678 Swaye's Wigwam

    Didn't we have this conversation back in March?

    I still say Lambo was the better of the two despite him bringing us down rather than Sark bringing us up (obligatory 0-12). Sark should've never been in a position to bring us up because we're WASHINGTON DAMMIT, so I don't really see that as too much of a positive for him.

    Lambo's record at UW was 44-25-1 (.636) and 31-16-1 (.656) in conference.
    Sark's record at UW was 31-29 (.517) and 24-21 (.533) in conference. (I removed DI-AA games because that's a knock on Sark, ruining our streak of never playing DI-AA teams)


    So yeah, Sark was worse.

    My old friend Tailgater said stats are for losers.

    Plus Lambo never had to beat a ranked Oregon State. Has that been mentioned?

    Lambo's biggest problem was that he didn't recruit the edgy WRs from the inner city. A couple more Sark type guys and some sideline dancing would have raised the excitement factor a bit. I personally got a little bored during the Lambo years, choosing to spend more of my time drinking and screwing skanks.

    But...Tailgater was full of shit and the stats don't lie. Lambright wins comfortably.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    sark was worser. this isn't really even a question.

    give me sark's sig win and give me lambo's. the "inherited a mess" talk is for luzerz. i just don't care.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    Guys stop quoting Lambo's win percentage like its good. He inherited a program who was 31-5 the previous three years. His win % would be similar to Sark's had he took over at any other point in program history.

    Both coaches sucked ass. I'd rather state at Lemon Party than relive the Lambo and Sark years.

    What's next? We'll debate between Boobs and Affirmitative action on who was better coach?
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    Guys stop quoting Lambo's win percentage like its good. He inherited a program who was 31-5 the previous three years. His win % would be similar to Sark's had he took over at any other point in program history.

    Both coaches sucked ass. I'd rather state at Lemon Party than relive the Lambo and Sark years.

    What's next? We'll debate between Boobs and Affirmitative action on who was better coach?

    Agree, Lambo's true talent came through in his last couple years. Seven Win Steve before Sark
  • mobey
    mobey Member Posts: 3,254
    Sark was worse.

    He's a sleezy fucking incompetent scammer.

    Lambo was just not that good.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Sark could have played one of Lambo's 11 game schedules and still managed to go 7-6
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    edited June 2014
    I will say Lambo was worse. Was handed a top 5-10 program at the time with lots of talent coming through and managed to drive into mediocrity within 4 years.

    Being 31 years old Lambo gave the first exposure of expecting uw to get their asses kicked on the road and something that both he and sark excelled at.

    Sark is a dip shit don't get me wrong, I just like to think a dead corpse could have led the program to 7 win/ season in 1994-1998. Lambo surpassed that once.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,623 Standard Supporter

    Guys stop quoting Lambo's win percentage like its good. He inherited a program who was 31-5 the previous three years. His win % would be similar to Sark's had he took over at any other point in program history.

    Both coaches sucked ass. I'd rather state at Lemon Party than relive the Lambo and Sark years.

    What's next? We'll debate between Boobs and Affirmitative action on who was better coach?

    Huh??
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    OZONE said:

    As an Oregon fan, I liked them both.

    POTD.

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Sark loses on the dude brah tie breaker making this a cool thread for lambright.
  • DeLarry
    DeLarry Member Posts: 230
    I hated Sark, but it's fair to mention that Lamborghini (thanks, autocorrect) followed the recently retired Don James and a program that just saw three consecutive Rose Bowl appearances including a national title. Sark followed 11-37. Hard to make a head to head comparison.

    You guys act like 0-12 never happened.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    I'd rather have Lambo than Sark because he wasn't a constant embarrassment off the field.

    I think Lambo was a slighty better recruiter. He couldn't recruit skill guys to save his life but he did bring in DL/OL/LB's while Sark was a good skill recruiter but not a OL/DL/LB's recruiter.

    As a gameday coach both were equally shitty. Throw inside the 10 yard line, plunger raped on the road in big games, lose to shitty opponents, pretty solid at home but shitty on the road.

    Lambo is really overrated by Doogs(hi Fleenor!) because they look at his W-L% . They assume he got a raw deal but the program was slipping under his watch and his W-L% is boosted due to having so much talent. His W-L% would been similar to Sark's had he took over at any other point in his career or if UW allowed him to continue to coach.
  • Fenwick
    Fenwick Member Posts: 1,174
    I never once worried tht a Sark team would beat us. He seemed best at making faces and shaking his head. I don't believe he was really invested in you guys, just used the team as a stepping stone and damned if USC didn't bite. He wanted trust and respect but who did he trust and respect?
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Dumbfuck question. Lambo ' s fuckard decisions came within a play of two of rosebowls.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453

    Dumbfuck question. Lambo ' s fuckard decisions came within a play of two of rosebowls.

    Lambo benefitted from James great talent. Yet he still managed to fuck it up. 1995 was one of the worst coached seasons I can remember.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Check that. Within a play or two of 2 rosebowls. Sark's boneheaded decisions only cost us a sun bowl and what does it matter. ALL pac bowls stink. Embarrased to be a member of this conference...thank you Tommy you blue haired blue balled geezer
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    Embarrased to be a member of this conference...

    SEC SEC SEC?
  • Fenwick
    Fenwick Member Posts: 1,174
    if you are embarrassed you could always leave
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    They both sucked, but Lambo sucked less. The end.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    OZONE said:

    As an Oregon fan, I liked them both.

    YBE
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Not taking sides on this one.

    Just pointing out, Lambo had widespread EXPECTATIONS of winning ROSE BOWLS. Sark held no fan expectation of getting to a single Rose Bowl.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    What was Sark's best win and worst loss? Lambos?

    Sark I'd say '09 USC as best win, although in hindsight that USC team was bad by Carroll standards...it was a huge earth shattering event at the time. The Willingham era was definitely over. I think that early success got to Sark's head though, he thought he already figured it out and didn't prepare and put in the requisite work ethic needed to win at this level.

    Lambo's best win is obvious. Loss....hmmm, the ND one didn't cost a RB but was pretty fucking stupid.