Manchin says no on $2000 direct aid; joins GOP in vote. Possible party switch?
Wonder if Manchin is going to pull a Jim Jeffords and switch parties. Could that be why the GOP seemed to intentionally lose the GA races to a 33 year-old do-nothing trust fund white kid and a racist and violent “Reverend?” That would be fitting for him to caucus with the GOP.
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Because the government shut the thing down and because we? are still sending billions of dollars over seas, and because PPP was looted by donors, a stand alone check is the only answer that makes sense
By the time they do anything anyone in trouble is fucked anyway
Postponing the rent is like getting a loan from a shark. Those past months will still be due -
Don’t worry, Mitt’s gonna offset him.
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I don’t think Mitt wants another pork-laden “Covid” bill. If he does, then he can fuck right off and be a Democrat.Bob_C said:Don’t worry, Mitt’s gonna offset him.
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Is he talking about the Mormon guy that was a governor when Obama and Biden ran against him in 2012?RaceBannon said:
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If he switches parties he’s just another Republican. As it stands, he’s one of the most powerful democrats.
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It's still awfully warm for Manchin's next reelection in 2024, but he's someone who must feel awfully uneasy with where everything has gone. The blue dogs are damn near extinct, and the GOP hasn't made itself appealing at all for anyone with a moderate bent.
Frankly Congress could use a few more Joe Manchins. -
Has he walked this back? Honest question.TheKobeStopper said:If he switches parties he’s just another Republican. As it stands, he’s one of the most powerful democrats.
And he walked it back, he just wants something.
https://www.rollcall.com/2020/11/09/joe-manchin-kills-dreams-of-expanding-supreme-court-eliminating-the-filibuster/
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Yeah he’s done great work for the poorest state in the country.GreenRiverGatorz said:It's still awfully warm for Manchin's next reelection in 2024, but he's someone who must feel awfully uneasy with where everything has gone. The blue dogs are damn near extinct, and the GOP hasn't made itself appealing at all for anyone with a moderate bent.
Frankly Congress could use a few more Joe Manchins. -
Yes, like I said, he’d support a stand-alone bill. That’s not going to pass Pelosi’s House. Their priority seems to be impeaching Drumpf anyhow.TheKobeStopper said: -
I’d rather up the amount to those actually affected and take off government workers as the offset that had no actual loss in pay from the list.TheKobeStopper said:
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Plenty of Moderates in the GOP. Mittens, the broads from AK and Maine, Sasse, Cornyn, guy from PA name the moderate Rat Senators?GreenRiverGatorz said:It's still awfully warm for Manchin's next reelection in 2024, but he's someone who must feel awfully uneasy with where everything has gone. The blue dogs are damn near extinct, and the GOP hasn't made itself appealing at all for anyone with a moderate bent.
Frankly Congress could use a few more Joe Manchins. -
You know why they don't want a stand alone bill. No money for your donor class, and all your other pet projects in a stand alone bill.NorthwestFresh said:
Yes, like I said, he’d support a stand-alone bill. That’s not going to pass Pelosi’s House. Their priority seems to be impeaching Drumpf anyhow.TheKobeStopper said: -
Well he is on team selloutTheKobeStopper said:If he switches parties he’s just another Republican. As it stands, he’s one of the most powerful democrats.
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Bad take. Representing a poor state doesn't make one responsible for that plight.TheKobeStopper said:
Yeah he’s done great work for the poorest state in the country.GreenRiverGatorz said:It's still awfully warm for Manchin's next reelection in 2024, but he's someone who must feel awfully uneasy with where everything has gone. The blue dogs are damn near extinct, and the GOP hasn't made itself appealing at all for anyone with a moderate bent.
Frankly Congress could use a few more Joe Manchins.
You're also ironically touching on one of the reasons we need more legislators like Manchin. Congress at its "best" operated as a series of compromises and plurality-building, often through concessions to specific states that each Congressman traded on. That kind of regionalized process resulted in a legislative branch that actually legislated.
Contrast that with legislating done based on national party and ideology as the motivating factor, and the resulting mess it's given us. -
Wasn't the Klan Senator from West Virginia?
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Manchin is like every other WV Senator...he'll vote for whatever as soon as they back the truck up with pork projects. WV is going to get a TON of money the next 2 years.
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That should definitely be a start. 95% of the country doesn't need a stimulus. But the ones who are hurting are hurting bad. Neither party seems interested in injecting a little precision into this stimulus and actually targeting those who need it. It's fucking baffling.Bob_C said:
I’d rather up the amount to those actually affected and take off government workers as the offset that had no actual loss in pay from the list.TheKobeStopper said: -
If the dems send money to Americans they don't get millions in kick backs. They love the tax money sent back as payment for sending the money in the first place. That's how this all works. All of it. Ask the Clintons or Obungholes.RaceBannon said:Because the government shut the thing down and because we? are still sending billions of dollars over seas, and because PPP was looted by donors, a stand alone check is the only answer that makes sense
By the time they do anything anyone in trouble is fucked anyway
Postponing the rent is like getting a loan from a shark. Those past months will still be due -
He changed even though he was still dropping n-bombs on TV right up until his death.RaceBannon said:Wasn't the Klan Senator from West Virginia?
Other than his obvious use of a racial slur, as racists do, he did make a few good points about the race hustle grifters. It’s only become worse now, Bobby.
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Maybe I could take this thought seriously if there was a hint of accountability. It’s shitty bipartisan bills that led to the frustration and anger of the right and left. It was bipartisanship that led to obscene corruption. Congress “at its best” is why we are here.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Bad take. Representing a poor state doesn't make one responsible for that plight.TheKobeStopper said:
Yeah he’s done great work for the poorest state in the country.GreenRiverGatorz said:It's still awfully warm for Manchin's next reelection in 2024, but he's someone who must feel awfully uneasy with where everything has gone. The blue dogs are damn near extinct, and the GOP hasn't made itself appealing at all for anyone with a moderate bent.
Frankly Congress could use a few more Joe Manchins.
You're also ironically touching on one of the reasons we need more legislators like Manchin. Congress at its "best" operated as a series of compromises and plurality-building, often through concessions to specific states that each Congressman traded on. That kind of regionalized process resulted in a legislative branch that actually legislated.
Contrast that with legislating done based on national party and ideology as the motivating factor, and the resulting mess it's given us.
Joe Manchin will vote for $2000 checks that would help the people in Kentucky if HE is given something. He’s a corrupt ghoul. -
He doesn’t want pork in the bill, that’s the point of voting no, but I would never expect you to get anything correct. So, you lie.TheKobeStopper said:
Maybe I could take this thought seriously if there was a hint of accountability. It’s shitty bipartisan bills that led to the frustration and anger of the right and left. It was bipartisanship that led to obscene corruption. Congress “at its best” is why we are here.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Bad take. Representing a poor state doesn't make one responsible for that plight.TheKobeStopper said:
Yeah he’s done great work for the poorest state in the country.GreenRiverGatorz said:It's still awfully warm for Manchin's next reelection in 2024, but he's someone who must feel awfully uneasy with where everything has gone. The blue dogs are damn near extinct, and the GOP hasn't made itself appealing at all for anyone with a moderate bent.
Frankly Congress could use a few more Joe Manchins.
You're also ironically touching on one of the reasons we need more legislators like Manchin. Congress at its "best" operated as a series of compromises and plurality-building, often through concessions to specific states that each Congressman traded on. That kind of regionalized process resulted in a legislative branch that actually legislated.
Contrast that with legislating done based on national party and ideology as the motivating factor, and the resulting mess it's given us.
Joe Manchin will vote for $2000 checks that would help the people in Kentucky if HE is given something. He’s a corrupt ghoul. -
Maybe we can force schools to purchase his daughters epipens and then he’ll vote for it.NorthwestFresh said:
He doesn’t want pork in the bill, that’s the point of voting no, but I would never expect you to get anything correct. So, you lie.TheKobeStopper said:
Maybe I could take this thought seriously if there was a hint of accountability. It’s shitty bipartisan bills that led to the frustration and anger of the right and left. It was bipartisanship that led to obscene corruption. Congress “at its best” is why we are here.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Bad take. Representing a poor state doesn't make one responsible for that plight.TheKobeStopper said:
Yeah he’s done great work for the poorest state in the country.GreenRiverGatorz said:It's still awfully warm for Manchin's next reelection in 2024, but he's someone who must feel awfully uneasy with where everything has gone. The blue dogs are damn near extinct, and the GOP hasn't made itself appealing at all for anyone with a moderate bent.
Frankly Congress could use a few more Joe Manchins.
You're also ironically touching on one of the reasons we need more legislators like Manchin. Congress at its "best" operated as a series of compromises and plurality-building, often through concessions to specific states that each Congressman traded on. That kind of regionalized process resulted in a legislative branch that actually legislated.
Contrast that with legislating done based on national party and ideology as the motivating factor, and the resulting mess it's given us.
Joe Manchin will vote for $2000 checks that would help the people in Kentucky if HE is given something. He’s a corrupt ghoul. -
He wants the Sanders vacation home planTheKobeStopper said:
Maybe we can force schools to purchase his daughters epipens and then he’ll vote for it.NorthwestFresh said:
He doesn’t want pork in the bill, that’s the point of voting no, but I would never expect you to get anything correct. So, you lie.TheKobeStopper said:
Maybe I could take this thought seriously if there was a hint of accountability. It’s shitty bipartisan bills that led to the frustration and anger of the right and left. It was bipartisanship that led to obscene corruption. Congress “at its best” is why we are here.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Bad take. Representing a poor state doesn't make one responsible for that plight.TheKobeStopper said:
Yeah he’s done great work for the poorest state in the country.GreenRiverGatorz said:It's still awfully warm for Manchin's next reelection in 2024, but he's someone who must feel awfully uneasy with where everything has gone. The blue dogs are damn near extinct, and the GOP hasn't made itself appealing at all for anyone with a moderate bent.
Frankly Congress could use a few more Joe Manchins.
You're also ironically touching on one of the reasons we need more legislators like Manchin. Congress at its "best" operated as a series of compromises and plurality-building, often through concessions to specific states that each Congressman traded on. That kind of regionalized process resulted in a legislative branch that actually legislated.
Contrast that with legislating done based on national party and ideology as the motivating factor, and the resulting mess it's given us.
Joe Manchin will vote for $2000 checks that would help the people in Kentucky if HE is given something. He’s a corrupt ghoul. -
Kentucky, West Virginia what's the difference.TheKobeStopper said:
Maybe I could take this thought seriously if there was a hint of accountability. It’s shitty bipartisan bills that led to the frustration and anger of the right and left. It was bipartisanship that led to obscene corruption. Congress “at its best” is why we are here.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Bad take. Representing a poor state doesn't make one responsible for that plight.TheKobeStopper said:
Yeah he’s done great work for the poorest state in the country.GreenRiverGatorz said:It's still awfully warm for Manchin's next reelection in 2024, but he's someone who must feel awfully uneasy with where everything has gone. The blue dogs are damn near extinct, and the GOP hasn't made itself appealing at all for anyone with a moderate bent.
Frankly Congress could use a few more Joe Manchins.
You're also ironically touching on one of the reasons we need more legislators like Manchin. Congress at its "best" operated as a series of compromises and plurality-building, often through concessions to specific states that each Congressman traded on. That kind of regionalized process resulted in a legislative branch that actually legislated.
Contrast that with legislating done based on national party and ideology as the motivating factor, and the resulting mess it's given us.
Joe Manchin will vote for $2000 checks that would help the people in Kentucky if HE is given something. He’s a corrupt ghoul. -
It is hard to keep track of poor red states.SFGbob said:
Kentucky, West Virginia what's the difference.TheKobeStopper said:
Maybe I could take this thought seriously if there was a hint of accountability. It’s shitty bipartisan bills that led to the frustration and anger of the right and left. It was bipartisanship that led to obscene corruption. Congress “at its best” is why we are here.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Bad take. Representing a poor state doesn't make one responsible for that plight.TheKobeStopper said:
Yeah he’s done great work for the poorest state in the country.GreenRiverGatorz said:It's still awfully warm for Manchin's next reelection in 2024, but he's someone who must feel awfully uneasy with where everything has gone. The blue dogs are damn near extinct, and the GOP hasn't made itself appealing at all for anyone with a moderate bent.
Frankly Congress could use a few more Joe Manchins.
You're also ironically touching on one of the reasons we need more legislators like Manchin. Congress at its "best" operated as a series of compromises and plurality-building, often through concessions to specific states that each Congressman traded on. That kind of regionalized process resulted in a legislative branch that actually legislated.
Contrast that with legislating done based on national party and ideology as the motivating factor, and the resulting mess it's given us.
Joe Manchin will vote for $2000 checks that would help the people in Kentucky if HE is given something. He’s a corrupt ghoul. -
19-6 Oregon with a huge lead since football was invented. Have you been paying attention?RaceBannon said:
He wants the Sanders vacation home planTheKobeStopper said:
Maybe we can force schools to purchase his daughters epipens and then he’ll vote for it.NorthwestFresh said:
He doesn’t want pork in the bill, that’s the point of voting no, but I would never expect you to get anything correct. So, you lie.TheKobeStopper said:
Maybe I could take this thought seriously if there was a hint of accountability. It’s shitty bipartisan bills that led to the frustration and anger of the right and left. It was bipartisanship that led to obscene corruption. Congress “at its best” is why we are here.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Bad take. Representing a poor state doesn't make one responsible for that plight.TheKobeStopper said:
Yeah he’s done great work for the poorest state in the country.GreenRiverGatorz said:It's still awfully warm for Manchin's next reelection in 2024, but he's someone who must feel awfully uneasy with where everything has gone. The blue dogs are damn near extinct, and the GOP hasn't made itself appealing at all for anyone with a moderate bent.
Frankly Congress could use a few more Joe Manchins.
You're also ironically touching on one of the reasons we need more legislators like Manchin. Congress at its "best" operated as a series of compromises and plurality-building, often through concessions to specific states that each Congressman traded on. That kind of regionalized process resulted in a legislative branch that actually legislated.
Contrast that with legislating done based on national party and ideology as the motivating factor, and the resulting mess it's given us.
Joe Manchin will vote for $2000 checks that would help the people in Kentucky if HE is given something. He’s a corrupt ghoul. -
Not as difficult keeping track of the “rich” blue states such as NY and CA who are begging for federal taxpayer money to rescue their broken public pensions.TheKobeStopper said:
It is hard to keep track of poor red states.SFGbob said:
Kentucky, West Virginia what's the difference.TheKobeStopper said:
Maybe I could take this thought seriously if there was a hint of accountability. It’s shitty bipartisan bills that led to the frustration and anger of the right and left. It was bipartisanship that led to obscene corruption. Congress “at its best” is why we are here.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Bad take. Representing a poor state doesn't make one responsible for that plight.TheKobeStopper said:
Yeah he’s done great work for the poorest state in the country.GreenRiverGatorz said:It's still awfully warm for Manchin's next reelection in 2024, but he's someone who must feel awfully uneasy with where everything has gone. The blue dogs are damn near extinct, and the GOP hasn't made itself appealing at all for anyone with a moderate bent.
Frankly Congress could use a few more Joe Manchins.
You're also ironically touching on one of the reasons we need more legislators like Manchin. Congress at its "best" operated as a series of compromises and plurality-building, often through concessions to specific states that each Congressman traded on. That kind of regionalized process resulted in a legislative branch that actually legislated.
Contrast that with legislating done based on national party and ideology as the motivating factor, and the resulting mess it's given us.
Joe Manchin will vote for $2000 checks that would help the people in Kentucky if HE is given something. He’s a corrupt ghoul.
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Someone that isn’t extreme left or right will rise in the next couple of years. The news cycle and social media make this world seem a lot different than the reality.GreenRiverGatorz said:It's still awfully warm for Manchin's next reelection in 2024, but he's someone who must feel awfully uneasy with where everything has gone. The blue dogs are damn near extinct, and the GOP hasn't made itself appealing at all for anyone with a moderate bent.
Frankly Congress could use a few more Joe Manchins.
