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Wade is no longer elite, but he can still be very good. You never know about his health. He might come back next year feeling better and rejuvenated after the loss. We saw it with Ginobili on the Spurs. He was way better this year. Wade needs to change his game a little though. It's time for him to hit some corner 3's and be able to space the floor a little better.
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I think where Wade's the most effective is his ability to slash to the basket without the ball ... he's elite in that regards still. He needs to play with a player that can highlight that part of his game (think a bench PG like JJ Barea that can get into the lane and create for others).
Where Wade is no longer elite is in his ability to get to the rim off of the bounce and take players 1 on 1.
Biggest difference between a guy like Wade and Vince Carter is that Carter could always shoot the ball from distance. Wade's a throwback to a prior era where shooting outside of 20 feet was a bad shot. -
Saying Lebron wasn't good at all in the 4th quarter of last years game 6 is FS. That is totally a skip bayless statement. They were down 12 and he willed back in the game.Tequilla said:
Skip Bayless knows jack shit about hoops ... he'd last about 81 seconds here at Hardcore Husky.He_Needs_More_Time said:You realized before this loss that Lebron had won 5 consecutive games when facing elimination? Doesn't sound like a guy who crumbles when his back is against the wall.
Keep quoting Skip Bayless though Tequilla.
Stop acting like Kim and citing all of the times that you're right and forget about all of the times that you're wrong.
I'll give LBJ the Game 6 game against Boston ... one of the most painful games I've ever watched.
He vanished in the series against Dallas at the end. I thought he vanished in large stretches of this series regardless of what his stats said. His last series in Cleveland against Boston, he mailed it in well before the series was over.
I actually thought he really vanished in Game 6 last year in the Finals against San Antonio despite the triple double (he wasn't good in the 4th at all) - he made up for it with his Game 7 performance.
And I think that is what is really hard with LBJ. If you look at the stats, he's a monster. He's like Wilt in that regard. He can drop 25-8-8 without really breaking much of a sweat. If you look at the Finals this year, he put up 28-8-4 on 57% shooting. But then again, would you actually say he played a good Finals?
There will be very few players in the history of the game that I think will be more polarizing when all is said and done than LBJ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncVxYAsSAko
He sucked the 2nd and 3rd quarters but in the 4th he was awsome. -
Weeeeeeeeell he wasn't that awesome. It's great that he willed his team back into the game but San Antonio also pulled away in the final two minutes. Lebron had two turnovers down the stretch. And while he did hit a big three he also bricked two others. The best thing he did at the end of that game was brick his last shot so badly that it surprised SA and Bosh was able to get the rebound.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Saying Lebron wasn't good at all in the 4th quarter of last years game 6 is FS. That is totally a skip bayless statement. They were down 12 and he willed back in the game.Tequilla said:
Skip Bayless knows jack shit about hoops ... he'd last about 81 seconds here at Hardcore Husky.He_Needs_More_Time said:You realized before this loss that Lebron had won 5 consecutive games when facing elimination? Doesn't sound like a guy who crumbles when his back is against the wall.
Keep quoting Skip Bayless though Tequilla.
Stop acting like Kim and citing all of the times that you're right and forget about all of the times that you're wrong.
I'll give LBJ the Game 6 game against Boston ... one of the most painful games I've ever watched.
He vanished in the series against Dallas at the end. I thought he vanished in large stretches of this series regardless of what his stats said. His last series in Cleveland against Boston, he mailed it in well before the series was over.
I actually thought he really vanished in Game 6 last year in the Finals against San Antonio despite the triple double (he wasn't good in the 4th at all) - he made up for it with his Game 7 performance.
And I think that is what is really hard with LBJ. If you look at the stats, he's a monster. He's like Wilt in that regard. He can drop 25-8-8 without really breaking much of a sweat. If you look at the Finals this year, he put up 28-8-4 on 57% shooting. But then again, would you actually say he played a good Finals?
There will be very few players in the history of the game that I think will be more polarizing when all is said and done than LBJ.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncVxYAsSAko
He sucked the 2nd and 3rd quarters but in the 4th he was awsome.
You can repeat over and over again (like every other point you try and make) that everyone's Skip Bayless but you're not being rational either. Look at your earlier post recounting Lebrons game 6. You mention his made 3 but leave it out the two misses. He willed his team back into the game, a game that San Antonio would have won if they just made free throws. How great could Lebron have been if they were going to lose that game? Or would you have just blamed that on his supporting cast as well? -
Agreed.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Being good enough to walk through the #FuckingDreckfest that the Eastern Conference has been over the past three seasons really isn't a big accomplishment like everyone is making it out to be.RoadDawg55 said:
This. His team has been good enough to make the Finals 4 straight years. It was good enough to beat Dallas. LeBron has nobody but himself to blame for that one. Look at his stats and especially game 4 (8 points, in a 3 point loss). Then he wins 2 championships. Now, after losing in the Finals his team sucks again. Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh don't suck. Pull up some articles and even some posts on here from yourself Timer. We were all talking about how good Wade played against Indiana. Then they get stomped by the Spurs and all of a sudden they suck. I agree with the points about the supporting cast getting older and that nobody got better, but they've been fine for awhile.CuntWaffle said:
So if you dismiss those it will still be 5-1.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Not to mention one game six Bulls trailed by 15, Phil emptied bench plus Pippen, they pull within six then Jordan comes in, next game 6 Paxson hits game winning three, then next game six then beat Seattle despite Jordan going 5-19, Kerr hits game winner in following game 6, then MJ hits game winner in game 6.dnc said:
This might be the worst meme ever. The Bulls went to game 6 in the Finals in 5 of their 6 title years.CuntWaffle said:
If it said game 7 it would be pretty good. That pic of MJ and Pippen is classic.
Not like MJ never needed help in those game 6 wins. If Allen's three dismissed Lebron's ring then does Paxson or Kerr?
Some are reaching Skip BaylessFS territory in this thread.
My issue with Lebron fans is it's always the "his team sucks" card and then when you point out his team helped him win a ring it's "big deal? every great needed their teammates at some point".
Lebron isn't an all time great yet, still has a lot of time but HE NEEDS MORE TIME (LOL!!1!).
Yes, the Heat need some changes (like every team that didn't win), but saying they suck and not placing any blame on LeBron is FS. He sucked too. He's a much better player than he played against San Antonio. San Antonio is a great team and was probably the better team the past two years, but anytime LeBron loses, it's because his team sucks.
Miami is a 6 seed and Indiana is a 4 seed if they are in the West and neither gets past the 2nd round. -
The script =allpurpleallgold said:
Weeeeeeeeell he wasn't that awesome. It's great that he willed his team back into the game but San Antonio also pulled away in the final two minutes. Lebron had two turnovers down the stretch. And while he did hit a big three he also bricked two others. The best thing he did at the end of that game was brick his last shot so badly that it surprised SA and Bosh was able to get the rebound.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Saying Lebron wasn't good at all in the 4th quarter of last years game 6 is FS. That is totally a skip bayless statement. They were down 12 and he willed back in the game.Tequilla said:
Skip Bayless knows jack shit about hoops ... he'd last about 81 seconds here at Hardcore Husky.He_Needs_More_Time said:You realized before this loss that Lebron had won 5 consecutive games when facing elimination? Doesn't sound like a guy who crumbles when his back is against the wall.
Keep quoting Skip Bayless though Tequilla.
Stop acting like Kim and citing all of the times that you're right and forget about all of the times that you're wrong.
I'll give LBJ the Game 6 game against Boston ... one of the most painful games I've ever watched.
He vanished in the series against Dallas at the end. I thought he vanished in large stretches of this series regardless of what his stats said. His last series in Cleveland against Boston, he mailed it in well before the series was over.
I actually thought he really vanished in Game 6 last year in the Finals against San Antonio despite the triple double (he wasn't good in the 4th at all) - he made up for it with his Game 7 performance.
And I think that is what is really hard with LBJ. If you look at the stats, he's a monster. He's like Wilt in that regard. He can drop 25-8-8 without really breaking much of a sweat. If you look at the Finals this year, he put up 28-8-4 on 57% shooting. But then again, would you actually say he played a good Finals?
There will be very few players in the history of the game that I think will be more polarizing when all is said and done than LBJ.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncVxYAsSAko
He sucked the 2nd and 3rd quarters but in the 4th he was awsome.
You can repeat over and over again (like every other point you try and make) that everyone's Skip Bayless but you're not being rational either. Look at your earlier post recounting Lebrons game 6. You mention his made 3 but leave it out the two misses. He willed his team back into the game, a game that San Antonio would have won if they just made free throws. How great could Lebron have been if they were going to lose that game? Or would you have just blamed that on his supporting cast as well?
Heat win: Wow Lebron is so good
Heat lose: Wow Lebron's team sucks
Lather, Rinse, Repeat.
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