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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,551 Swaye's Wigwam
    RaceBannon said:

    I was a huge Stanback guy. Met him when we were working on the new crew digs. Really nice kid

    I will never be convinced that he did not get fucked over here by the shit coaching we had.

    His tape from Garfield was at one of the couple of doogman recruiting banquets. John Elway esque

    Speaking of doogman most of the doogs hated Stanback in order to protect Ty. Same as always. It never even registered on them that Ty fucked over Jake too

    He was 1-9 at Garfield. He had no coaching growing up. Fast, but not really elusive. Easy to bring down. Inaccurate throwing the ball. I think he could have been better, but there wasn’t a world class QB in him.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,039 Founders Club
    Were you even born?
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,410
    DerekJohnson said:

    creepycoug said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    creepycoug said:

    chuck said:

    creepycoug said:

    jecornel said:

    Jake could have been the greatest safety of all time at Washington. Better to do the hitting than getting hit.

    I doubt that. It's fun jibber jabber, but I'll believe he could have been > than Lawyer Milloy when I actually see him be > than Lawyer Milloy.
    Running back all the way. I find the safety talk pretty dumb. We all saw what he could do at the college level as a ball carrier. Nobody has anything but speculation to go on as far as safety goes. I'm sure a couple of guys here saw him play it in HS.

    The truth is that he was the best QB at UW while he was there and it's not even a conversation. He played where he needed to play.

    Same as Stanback before him. Did he have the physical tools to play about five other positions? Yes. Was he good enough at any of them to definitively say he should have played one? No. Did UW need him at QB. Yes.
    Isaiah Stanback: the best athlete to ever play football at Washington.

    Talk me out of it.
    Nate Robinson
    Anthony Vontoure
    Sterling Hinds
    6'2" 230 lbs.

    10.4 100 meters (Hinds was .2 faster but a much smaller player)

    Played the hardest position on the field.

    One of the ... maybe the strongest arm in Washington history.

    Legit baseball talent.

    It's a rare combo.

    Hinds was all track and some football (CFL was his peak) at an easier position
    Vontoure was all football and fast for football but not to my knowledge world class like Stanback Certainly a gifted athlete
    Nate is interesting. Football, basketball and a good hurdler.

    Still, I'd take Stanback as an overall athlete with the most gifts among those guys. Usually QBs are just QBs because it takes a small lifetime to develop the skills to play it. He had super elite arm talent and super elite wheels. It's just relatively unusual in my travels.
    Hinds was an Olympic athlete

    I can't remember if I included it in my book, but Darryl Daniels described some of the athletic things Vontoure could do that astounded everyone around him. He could be sitting on the floor and then stand on his head for 20 minutes
    He was on the Canadian 4x100 relay. It's impressive but if we're fawning over legit track speed then I'd go with J'Warren Hooker.

    I have heard those things about Vontoure as well. I just haven't heard enough to elevate him over Stanback.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,410
    1to392831weretaken said:

    The fastest man to ever play football (at least since they started collecting this data) lined up at Washington. That's gotta factor into the conversation at least a little.

    Who? I would have thought that to be Bob Hayes at Florida A&M.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,410
    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I was a huge Stanback guy. Met him when we were working on the new crew digs. Really nice kid

    I will never be convinced that he did not get fucked over here by the shit coaching we had.

    His tape from Garfield was at one of the couple of doogman recruiting banquets. John Elway esque

    Speaking of doogman most of the doogs hated Stanback in order to protect Ty. Same as always. It never even registered on them that Ty fucked over Jake too

    He was 1-9 at Garfield. He had no coaching growing up. Fast, but not really elusive. Easy to bring down. Inaccurate throwing the ball. I think he could have been better, but there wasn’t a world class QB in him.
    Disagree with all that except that the had no coaching.
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  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    creepycoug said:

    1to392831weretaken said:

    The fastest man to ever play football (at least since they started collecting this data) lined up at Washington. That's gotta factor into the conversation at least a little.

    Who? I would have thought that to be Bob Hayes at Florida A&M.
    Are you being obtuse? John Ross.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,551 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited December 2020
    creepycoug said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I was a huge Stanback guy. Met him when we were working on the new crew digs. Really nice kid

    I will never be convinced that he did not get fucked over here by the shit coaching we had.

    His tape from Garfield was at one of the couple of doogman recruiting banquets. John Elway esque

    Speaking of doogman most of the doogs hated Stanback in order to protect Ty. Same as always. It never even registered on them that Ty fucked over Jake too

    He was 1-9 at Garfield. He had no coaching growing up. Fast, but not really elusive. Easy to bring down. Inaccurate throwing the ball. I think he could have been better, but there wasn’t a world class QB in him.
    Disagree with all that except that the had no coaching.
    Did you ever watch him and think, “What a game breaking threat running the ball?” Did you ever watch him and think he was a good passer? He had a good stretch in 2006 where he played pretty well. I agree coaching hindered him. I don’t think he would have been a great QB elsewhere.

    Locker was a way better runner than Stanback and it wasn’t close.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,410
    RaceBannon said:

    I was a huge Stanback guy. Met him when we were working on the new crew digs. Really nice kid

    I will never be convinced that he did not get fucked over here by the shit coaching we had.

    His tape from Garfield was at one of the couple of doogman recruiting banquets. John Elway esque

    Speaking of doogman most of the doogs hated Stanback in order to protect Ty. Same as always. It never even registered on them that Ty fucked over Jake too

    I saw him play once in HS. For the life of me, I can't remember who they were playing. I'm not sure I can remember seeing a HS kid on the field who was so clearly better than everybody else. I watched Lindquist a few times ... he gave that impression as well. But Stanback to me is the best pure athlete that I've ever seen play at Washington ... and if I thought about it some, probably at many other programs as well.

    I also met it him a couple of times. Very true ... super nice kid. Absolutely down to earth and humble. Would have been chintresting to see how he'd be used today in the multitude of offenses that take advantage of those kinds of talents. You're not usually going to have success bringing in a kid from nowhere coaching and develop him into a progression read pocket QB. Those guys are usually well on their way by the time they show up.

    How would Stanback, for example, fared at Oregon during Chip? Or at Lincoln Riley's Oklahoma? Or Louisville?

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