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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 70,124 Founders Club
    1to392831weretaken said:

    creepycoug said:

    1to392831weretaken said:

    The fastest man to ever play football (at least since they started collecting this data) lined up at Washington. That's gotta factor into the conversation at least a little.

    Who? I would have thought that to be Bob Hayes at Florida A&M.
    Are you being obtuse? John Ross.
    Can't believe I forgot about John Ross XII
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 70,124 Founders Club
    creepycoug said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I was a huge Stanback guy. Met him when we were working on the new crew digs. Really nice kid

    I will never be convinced that he did not get fucked over here by the shit coaching we had.

    His tape from Garfield was at one of the couple of doogman recruiting banquets. John Elway esque

    Speaking of doogman most of the doogs hated Stanback in order to protect Ty. Same as always. It never even registered on them that Ty fucked over Jake too

    I saw him play once in HS. For the life of me, I can't remember who they were playing. I'm not sure I can remember seeing a HS kid on the field who was so clearly better than everybody else. I watched Lindquist a few times ... he gave that impression as well. But Stanback to me is the best pure athlete that I've ever seen play at Washington ... and if I thought about it some, probably at many other programs as well.

    I also met it him a couple of times. Very true ... super nice kid. Absolutely down to earth and humble. Would have been chintresting to see how he'd be used today in the multitude of offenses that take advantage of those kinds of talents. You're not usually going to have success bringing in a kid from nowhere coaching and develop him into a progression read pocket QB. Those guys are usually well on their way by the time they show up.

    How would Stanback, for example, fared at Oregon during Chip? Or at Lincoln Riley's Oklahoma? Or Louisville?

    I've lost touch with Isaiah but we kept in touch for about ten years after he left UW. He and his wife came to one of my book signings. I always thought he was a really cool dude. His dad once emailed me saying thanks for having Isaiah's back when so many were doubting him. That was in 2006.

    I think he had some limitations like Roadie said, but he could have been soooooo much better with proper coaching. Imagine if someone like Tedford could have been a daily presence with him for 4-5 years.

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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,841 Swaye's Wigwam
    RoadDawg55 said:

    creepycoug said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I was a huge Stanback guy. Met him when we were working on the new crew digs. Really nice kid

    I will never be convinced that he did not get fucked over here by the shit coaching we had.

    His tape from Garfield was at one of the couple of doogman recruiting banquets. John Elway esque

    Speaking of doogman most of the doogs hated Stanback in order to protect Ty. Same as always. It never even registered on them that Ty fucked over Jake too

    He was 1-9 at Garfield. He had no coaching growing up. Fast, but not really elusive. Easy to bring down. Inaccurate throwing the ball. I think he could have been better, but there wasn’t a world class QB in him.
    Disagree with all that except that the had no coaching.
    Did you ever watch him and think, “What a game breaking threat running the ball?” Did you ever watch him and think he was a good passer? He had a good stretch in 2006 where he played pretty well. I agree coaching hindered him. I don’t think he would have been a great QB elsewhere.

    Locker was a way better runner than Stanback and it wasn’t close.
    Locker was definitely a better runner. Stanback didn't see the field, didn't see past the first defender to set up moves on successive tacklers, and didn't set up blockers. He was all speed.

    Stanback was about 5 years behind the 8 ball as far as learning how to play QB. I dont think he could have ever been developed into an NFL level, pocket QB but I saw enough to know he could have easily been a good one in college. His accuracy often looked worse than it was because there was no place to good with the ball in that joke of a passing offense. Go back and watch how often his only read was a single out pattern to a bracketed receiver. He smartly threw a shit ton of balls high and wide to avoid picks.

    Stanback was given no chance whatsoever by inheriting Gilby and Ty. We know he wasn't good. We can only speculate whether or not he could/should have been better.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,410
    1to392831weretaken said:

    creepycoug said:

    1to392831weretaken said:

    The fastest man to ever play football (at least since they started collecting this data) lined up at Washington. That's gotta factor into the conversation at least a little.

    Who? I would have thought that to be Bob Hayes at Florida A&M.
    Are you being obtuse? John Ross.
    Uh, no. Thanks for playing.


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  • Quietcowskee
    Quietcowskee Member Posts: 4,453 Standard Supporter
    Shaq was a decent athlete himself.

    Stanback was 230??

    Gotta love Locker for staying home. Could’ve been Vince Young at a good program. And it seems like he could’ve been Bellingham Chancellor at S, but we’ll never know...
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,410
    edited December 2020
    RoadDawg55 said:

    creepycoug said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I was a huge Stanback guy. Met him when we were working on the new crew digs. Really nice kid

    I will never be convinced that he did not get fucked over here by the shit coaching we had.

    His tape from Garfield was at one of the couple of doogman recruiting banquets. John Elway esque

    Speaking of doogman most of the doogs hated Stanback in order to protect Ty. Same as always. It never even registered on them that Ty fucked over Jake too

    He was 1-9 at Garfield. He had no coaching growing up. Fast, but not really elusive. Easy to bring down. Inaccurate throwing the ball. I think he could have been better, but there wasn’t a world class QB in him.
    Disagree with all that except that the had no coaching.
    Did you ever watch him and think, “What a game breaking threat running the ball?” Did you ever watch him and think he was a good passer? He had a good stretch in 2006 where he played pretty well. I agree coaching hindered him. I don’t think he would have been a great QB elsewhere.

    Locker was a way better runner than Stanback and it wasn’t close.
    Yes, I did. On both questions. The "good stretch" in 2006 is what leads me to believe with good coaching and prep he could have been a great passer. He made throws that many better QBs can't ever make in their lifetime. I also didn't say Locker wasn't a better runner.

    I feel like you and some others are working too hard to fight this. My thesis is clear: best ATHLETE to play at Washington. Not best QB, not best running back. Not best running QB. Best athlete.

    I base my conclusion on his elite gifts in two distinct areas that seldom overlap. Again, truly elite arm strength and truly elite speed in a body of a kid who would not have had to bulk up to play linebacker.

    Bottom line is you don't see many QBs with John Elway arm strength who were MLB drafted line up in the blocks of a P5 100 meter track meet because he belongs there. It's just a very uniqure set of natural abilities that you can't coach.


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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,410
    RatherBeBrewing said:

    Quietcowskee said:


    Gotta love Locker for staying home. Could’ve been Vince Young at a good program.

    Washington fans should love him for staying home.

    I’m no fan of Locker, but I would have loved him at Oregon.
    He was a freshman in 2007, at Oregon becomes a starter after Dixon and everyone else’s knees exploded. The Chip years were used on a full back QB and a 4.9 40 Darron Thomas, Chip wouldn’t have wasted Locker.
    Always hard to say, but he likely would have had a better career at Oregon. Same goes for the Swede.

    The one thing I always remember about Locker, which probably isn't fair, is that he struggled mightily to throw the out. He just missed it terribly all the tim. They? used to comment about it during the game sometimes.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,040 Founders Club
    edited December 2020
    archive.kitsapsun.com/sports/stanbacks-stunner-left-an-impression-ep-424554537-359203441.html



    One of the early times we were back. Stanback had all the arm in the world

    He also got a cup of espresso in the NFL based on potential alone
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  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,467
    RaceBannon said:

    archive.kitsapsun.com/sports/stanbacks-stunner-left-an-impression-ep-424554537-359203441.html



    One of the early times we were back. Stanback had all the arm in the world

    He also got a cup of espresso in the NFL based on potential alone

    I had to search for it. Now I can't stop watching it. . . .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfJWCBboCYc
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