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Jake could have been the greatest safety of all time at Washington. Better to do the hitting than getting hit.
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I doubt that. It's fun jibber jabber, but I'll believe he could have been > than Lawyer Milloy when I actually see him be > than Lawyer Milloy.jecornel said:Jake could have been the greatest safety of all time at Washington. Better to do the hitting than getting hit.
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Actually, it usually does.CallMeBigErn said:
Having a bombshell girlfriend doesn't mean you're not queer as a plaid rabbit.RatherBeBrewing said:
Once Herbert is done with puberty he might even be good.LawDawg1 said:Herbert looks like he took his meth with him to the NFL.
With how low profile he was, even compared to Mariota, I had wondered if Herbert is... How shall I put this... more like Justin Himbert? Apparently he is not.
Only homos looking for homos count on the exception to that rule. -
Running back all the way. I find the safety talk pretty dumb. We all saw what he could do at the college level as a ball carrier. Nobody has anything but speculation to go on as far as safety goes. I'm sure a couple of guys here saw him play it in HS.creepycoug said:
I doubt that. It's fun jibber jabber, but I'll believe he could have been > than Lawyer Milloy when I actually see him be > than Lawyer Milloy.jecornel said:Jake could have been the greatest safety of all time at Washington. Better to do the hitting than getting hit.
The truth is that he was the best QB at UW while he was there and it's not even a conversation. He played where he needed to play.
Same as Stanback before him. Did he have the physical tools to play about five other positions? Yes. Was he good enough at any of them to definitively say he should have played one? No. Did UW need him at QB. Yes. -
Isaiah Stanback: the best athlete to ever play football at Washington.chuck said:
Running back all the way. I find the safety talk pretty dumb. We all saw what he could do at the college level as a ball carrier. Nobody has anything but speculation to go on as far as safety goes. I'm sure a couple of guys here saw him play it in HS.creepycoug said:
I doubt that. It's fun jibber jabber, but I'll believe he could have been > than Lawyer Milloy when I actually see him be > than Lawyer Milloy.jecornel said:Jake could have been the greatest safety of all time at Washington. Better to do the hitting than getting hit.
The truth is that he was the best QB at UW while he was there and it's not even a conversation. He played where he needed to play.
Same as Stanback before him. Did he have the physical tools to play about five other positions? Yes. Was he good enough at any of them to definitively say he should have played one? No. Did UW need him at QB. Yes.
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Nate Robinsoncreepycoug said:
Isaiah Stanback: the best athlete to ever play football at Washington.chuck said:
Running back all the way. I find the safety talk pretty dumb. We all saw what he could do at the college level as a ball carrier. Nobody has anything but speculation to go on as far as safety goes. I'm sure a couple of guys here saw him play it in HS.creepycoug said:
I doubt that. It's fun jibber jabber, but I'll believe he could have been > than Lawyer Milloy when I actually see him be > than Lawyer Milloy.jecornel said:Jake could have been the greatest safety of all time at Washington. Better to do the hitting than getting hit.
The truth is that he was the best QB at UW while he was there and it's not even a conversation. He played where he needed to play.
Same as Stanback before him. Did he have the physical tools to play about five other positions? Yes. Was he good enough at any of them to definitively say he should have played one? No. Did UW need him at QB. Yes.
Talk me out of it.
Anthony Vontoure
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6'2" 230 lbs.DerekJohnson said:
Nate Robinsoncreepycoug said:
Isaiah Stanback: the best athlete to ever play football at Washington.chuck said:
Running back all the way. I find the safety talk pretty dumb. We all saw what he could do at the college level as a ball carrier. Nobody has anything but speculation to go on as far as safety goes. I'm sure a couple of guys here saw him play it in HS.creepycoug said:
I doubt that. It's fun jibber jabber, but I'll believe he could have been > than Lawyer Milloy when I actually see him be > than Lawyer Milloy.jecornel said:Jake could have been the greatest safety of all time at Washington. Better to do the hitting than getting hit.
The truth is that he was the best QB at UW while he was there and it's not even a conversation. He played where he needed to play.
Same as Stanback before him. Did he have the physical tools to play about five other positions? Yes. Was he good enough at any of them to definitively say he should have played one? No. Did UW need him at QB. Yes.
Talk me out of it.
Anthony Vontoure
Sterling Hinds
10.4 100 meters (Hinds was .2 faster but a much smaller player)
Played the hardest position on the field.
One of the ... maybe the strongest arm in Washington history.
Legit baseball talent.
It's a rare combo.
Hinds was all track and some football (CFL was his peak) at an easier position
Vontoure was all football and fast for football but not to my knowledge world class like Stanback Certainly a gifted athlete
Nate is interesting. Football, basketball and a good hurdler.
Still, I'd take Stanback as an overall athlete with the most gifts among those guys. Usually QBs are just QBs because it takes a small lifetime to develop the skills to play it. He had super elite arm talent and super elite wheels. It's just relatively unusual in my travels. -
Hinds was an Olympic athletecreepycoug said:
6'2" 230 lbs.DerekJohnson said:
Nate Robinsoncreepycoug said:
Isaiah Stanback: the best athlete to ever play football at Washington.chuck said:
Running back all the way. I find the safety talk pretty dumb. We all saw what he could do at the college level as a ball carrier. Nobody has anything but speculation to go on as far as safety goes. I'm sure a couple of guys here saw him play it in HS.creepycoug said:
I doubt that. It's fun jibber jabber, but I'll believe he could have been > than Lawyer Milloy when I actually see him be > than Lawyer Milloy.jecornel said:Jake could have been the greatest safety of all time at Washington. Better to do the hitting than getting hit.
The truth is that he was the best QB at UW while he was there and it's not even a conversation. He played where he needed to play.
Same as Stanback before him. Did he have the physical tools to play about five other positions? Yes. Was he good enough at any of them to definitively say he should have played one? No. Did UW need him at QB. Yes.
Talk me out of it.
Anthony Vontoure
Sterling Hinds
10.4 100 meters (Hinds was .2 faster but a much smaller player)
Played the hardest position on the field.
One of the ... maybe the strongest arm in Washington history.
Legit baseball talent.
It's a rare combo.
Hinds was all track and some football (CFL was his peak) at an easier position
Vontoure was all football and fast for football but not to my knowledge world class like Stanback Certainly a gifted athlete
Nate is interesting. Football, basketball and a good hurdler.
Still, I'd take Stanback as an overall athlete with the most gifts among those guys. Usually QBs are just QBs because it takes a small lifetime to develop the skills to play it. He had super elite arm talent and super elite wheels. It's just relatively unusual in my travels.
I can't remember if I included it in my book, but Darryl Daniels described some of the athletic things Vontoure could do that astounded everyone around him. He could be sitting on the floor and then stand on his head for 20 minutes -
The fastest man to ever play football (at least since they started collecting this data) lined up at Washington. That's gotta factor into the conversation at least a little.
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Awesome! Thanks for the update!
Next thing you will tell me is that Ugo Amadi was better than Quentin Richardson
