Running Backs Suck
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I was wondering the same thing. The guy hasn't had the opportunity to really show his stuff. I do think he'll be good but so many posters already think he is the second coming.GrundleStiltzkin said:What am I missing on Cam Davis that everyone loves him so much? Is it a stars thing?
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Not saying muchbackthepack said:
He had the 2 best runs of the night.GrundleStiltzkin said:What am I missing on Cam Davis that everyone loves him so much? Is it a stars thing?
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TBS overrated RB’s based on high school and camps. For some reason, shitty teams often still have good RB’s it seems.Kingdome_Urinals said:Neither McGrew or Pleasant, or Newton for that matter, can shed a defender, break a tackle or make something happen that is not provided for them by the Oline. Those are things really good RBs must do.
Within the context of what UW is trying to do, they pretty much suck. I don't take pleasure in saying that.
Here are the Pac teams with better RBs getting volume carries. ASU, UCLA, Oregon St., Utah (that freshman), USC (Carr), Stanford (Jones).
That's half the Pac-12 with more talented lead runners. UW should never be in that position.
Especially not when trying to form a program "identity" around running the ball. -
The Clamoring for Cam (ILTCIT) is just TBS overhypeBeerThirty said:
I was wondering the same thing. The guy hasn't had the opportunity to really show his stuff. I do think he'll be good but so many posters already think he is the second coming.GrundleStiltzkin said:What am I missing on Cam Davis that everyone loves him so much? Is it a stars thing?
The OL run blocking has been well below average. THAT is the much bigger problem.
The TBSers are always short sided and want whoever the young new toy is to play until next years young new toy shows up. -
@CFetters_Nacho_Lover and 3 other fattiesCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Why don't you just come out and say me and 3 other fatties?Canadawg said:Wayyy too much attention on the RBs.
Yes Mcgrew is the best back overall and he is average at best. Probably 90% of what you'd like out of a RB1.
People have mentioned there are no broken tackles or misses made but thats not something they've had the opportunity to do.
The Oline has made very few holes.
The Oline has made very holes because of the scheming.
If we take the 4 fattest dudes from this site and tell them to stay tight in the middle and not get pushed backwards they could probably do that relatively well. Its thinking and moving for every other situation that makes it exponentially more difficult. The other teams are basically taking the inside run away without worrying about anything else.
Play calling is screwing the oline and the oline is screwing the rbs -
TBS overrated RB’s based on high school and camps. For some reason, shitty teams often still have good RB’s it seems.Kingdome_Urinals said:Neither McGrew or Pleasant, or Newton for that matter, can shed a defender, break a tackle or make something happen that is not provided for them by the Oline. Those are things really good RBs must do.
Within the context of what UW is trying to do, they pretty much suck. I don't take pleasure in saying that.
Here are the Pac teams with better RBs getting volume carries. ASU, UCLA, Oregon St., Utah (that freshman), USC (Carr), Stanford (Jones).
That's half the Pac-12 with more talented lead runners. UW should never be in that position.
Especially not when trying to form a program "identity" around running the ball.
I would say Davis has shown some ability and hasn’t gotten a full chance. It is mostly hype, but the guys in front are lacking production and Davis has at least one run every game where it leaves us wanting more.Houhusky said:
The Clamoring for Cam (ILTCIT) is just TBS overhypeBeerThirty said:
I was wondering the same thing. The guy hasn't had the opportunity to really show his stuff. I do think he'll be good but so many posters already think he is the second coming.GrundleStiltzkin said:What am I missing on Cam Davis that everyone loves him so much? Is it a stars thing?
The OL run blocking has been well below average. THAT is the much bigger problem.
The TBSers are always short sided and want whoever the young new toy is to play until next years young new toy shows up.
I can’t stand Pleasant in short yardage. I don’t care that he’s big. He sucks at it. -
Pleasant in short yardage is so dumb when you have a power back (Newton) and a small pass catching back (McGrew) on the team.RoadDawg55 said:
TBS overrated RB’s based on high school and camps. For some reason, shitty teams often still have good RB’s it seems.Kingdome_Urinals said:Neither McGrew or Pleasant, or Newton for that matter, can shed a defender, break a tackle or make something happen that is not provided for them by the Oline. Those are things really good RBs must do.
Within the context of what UW is trying to do, they pretty much suck. I don't take pleasure in saying that.
Here are the Pac teams with better RBs getting volume carries. ASU, UCLA, Oregon St., Utah (that freshman), USC (Carr), Stanford (Jones).
That's half the Pac-12 with more talented lead runners. UW should never be in that position.
Especially not when trying to form a program "identity" around running the ball.
I would say Davis has shown some ability and hasn’t gotten a full chance. It is mostly hype, but the guys in front are lacking production and Davis has at least one run every game where it leaves us wanting more.Houhusky said:
The Clamoring for Cam (ILTCIT) is just TBS overhypeBeerThirty said:
I was wondering the same thing. The guy hasn't had the opportunity to really show his stuff. I do think he'll be good but so many posters already think he is the second coming.GrundleStiltzkin said:What am I missing on Cam Davis that everyone loves him so much? Is it a stars thing?
The OL run blocking has been well below average. THAT is the much bigger problem.
The TBSers are always short sided and want whoever the young new toy is to play until next years young new toy shows up.
I can’t stand Pleasant in short yardage. I don’t care that he’s big. He sucks at it.
Pleasant is a really good pass blocking back through... so he has that going for him... I guess... -
Newton and Pleasant, even McGrew are not TBS favorites. Only Cam Davis is, and for good reason frankly, he's made some great catches and has the best all around physical and skill-set. If you can't see it, you can't see it. That's fine.RoadDawg55 said:
TBS overrated RB’s based on high school and camps. For some reason, shitty teams often still have good RB’s it seems.Kingdome_Urinals said:Neither McGrew or Pleasant, or Newton for that matter, can shed a defender, break a tackle or make something happen that is not provided for them by the Oline. Those are things really good RBs must do.
Within the context of what UW is trying to do, they pretty much suck. I don't take pleasure in saying that.
Here are the Pac teams with better RBs getting volume carries. ASU, UCLA, Oregon St., Utah (that freshman), USC (Carr), Stanford (Jones).
That's half the Pac-12 with more talented lead runners. UW should never be in that position.
Especially not when trying to form a program "identity" around running the ball.
I would say Davis has shown some ability and hasn’t gotten a full chance. It is mostly hype, but the guys in front are lacking production and Davis has at least one run every game where it leaves us wanting more.Houhusky said:
The Clamoring for Cam (ILTCIT) is just TBS overhypeBeerThirty said:
I was wondering the same thing. The guy hasn't had the opportunity to really show his stuff. I do think he'll be good but so many posters already think he is the second coming.GrundleStiltzkin said:What am I missing on Cam Davis that everyone loves him so much? Is it a stars thing?
The OL run blocking has been well below average. THAT is the much bigger problem.
The TBSers are always short sided and want whoever the young new toy is to play until next years young new toy shows up.
I can’t stand Pleasant in short yardage. I don’t care that he’s big. He sucks at it.
These RBs do, basically, suck. Of course OL play is bad but two things can be bad at once, and often are.
CFB is a game where above average backs have plenty of opportunity to create for themselves. As you said even shitty teams have good backs.
UW doesn't really have good backs. -
Davis has shown some burst and can finish some runs. I see something there. Not sure he will be great but could be good.
Biggest issue is we invite everyone into the box, AND they know what we are going to do. They don’t fear big plays from bunch formation in the passing game.
Hard for the offensive line to overcome that. If they were great maybe they would, but they’re not.
To be a running team doesn’t mean you have to invite everyone into the box and still run it. But we insist on trying to prove we can. Vs zona and the beavs sure. Vs any defensive line with any bit of athleticism it is not going to happen at all. -
Emoterman said:CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Why don't you just come out and say me and 3 other fatties?Canadawg said:Wayyy too much attention on the RBs.
Yes Mcgrew is the best back overall and he is average at best. Probably 90% of what you'd like out of a RB1.
People have mentioned there are no broken tackles or misses made but thats not something they've had the opportunity to do.
The Oline has made very few holes.
The Oline has made very holes because of the scheming.
If we take the 4 fattest dudes from this site and tell them to stay tight in the middle and not get pushed backwards they could probably do that relatively well. Its thinking and moving for every other situation that makes it exponentially more difficult. The other teams are basically taking the inside run away without worrying about anything else.
Play calling is screwing the oline and the oline is screwing the rbs
"Deserves more chins"
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NoWarningJustDawg said:Emoterman said:CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Why don't you just come out and say me and 3 other fatties?Canadawg said:Wayyy too much attention on the RBs.
Yes Mcgrew is the best back overall and he is average at best. Probably 90% of what you'd like out of a RB1.
People have mentioned there are no broken tackles or misses made but thats not something they've had the opportunity to do.
The Oline has made very few holes.
The Oline has made very holes because of the scheming.
If we take the 4 fattest dudes from this site and tell them to stay tight in the middle and not get pushed backwards they could probably do that relatively well. Its thinking and moving for every other situation that makes it exponentially more difficult. The other teams are basically taking the inside run away without worrying about anything else.
Play calling is screwing the oline and the oline is screwing the rbs
"Deserves more chins"
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McGrew was a 4-star from St.John Bosco and California Gatorade State player of the year.Kingdome_Urinals said:
Newton and Pleasant, even McGrew are not TBS favorites. Only Cam Davis is, and for good reason frankly, he's made some great catches and has the best all around physical and skill-set. If you can't see it, you can't see it. That's fine.RoadDawg55 said:
TBS overrated RB’s based on high school and camps. For some reason, shitty teams often still have good RB’s it seems.Kingdome_Urinals said:Neither McGrew or Pleasant, or Newton for that matter, can shed a defender, break a tackle or make something happen that is not provided for them by the Oline. Those are things really good RBs must do.
Within the context of what UW is trying to do, they pretty much suck. I don't take pleasure in saying that.
Here are the Pac teams with better RBs getting volume carries. ASU, UCLA, Oregon St., Utah (that freshman), USC (Carr), Stanford (Jones).
That's half the Pac-12 with more talented lead runners. UW should never be in that position.
Especially not when trying to form a program "identity" around running the ball.
I would say Davis has shown some ability and hasn’t gotten a full chance. It is mostly hype, but the guys in front are lacking production and Davis has at least one run every game where it leaves us wanting more.Houhusky said:
The Clamoring for Cam (ILTCIT) is just TBS overhypeBeerThirty said:
I was wondering the same thing. The guy hasn't had the opportunity to really show his stuff. I do think he'll be good but so many posters already think he is the second coming.GrundleStiltzkin said:What am I missing on Cam Davis that everyone loves him so much? Is it a stars thing?
The OL run blocking has been well below average. THAT is the much bigger problem.
The TBSers are always short sided and want whoever the young new toy is to play until next years young new toy shows up.
I can’t stand Pleasant in short yardage. I don’t care that he’s big. He sucks at it.
These RBs do, basically, suck. Of course OL play is bad but two things can be bad at once, and often are.
CFB is a game where above average backs have plenty of opportunity to create for themselves. As you said even shitty teams have good backs.
UW doesn't really have good backs.
He has underwhelmed in his career, but he had a good list coming out. -
McGrew was. He tore it up in high school and was considered a big play threat. Never really panned out. He’s more quick than fast. He doesn’t hit any home runs.Kingdome_Urinals said:
Newton and Pleasant, even McGrew are not TBS favorites. Only Cam Davis is, and for good reason frankly, he's made some great catches and has the best all around physical and skill-set. If you can't see it, you can't see it. That's fine.RoadDawg55 said:
TBS overrated RB’s based on high school and camps. For some reason, shitty teams often still have good RB’s it seems.Kingdome_Urinals said:Neither McGrew or Pleasant, or Newton for that matter, can shed a defender, break a tackle or make something happen that is not provided for them by the Oline. Those are things really good RBs must do.
Within the context of what UW is trying to do, they pretty much suck. I don't take pleasure in saying that.
Here are the Pac teams with better RBs getting volume carries. ASU, UCLA, Oregon St., Utah (that freshman), USC (Carr), Stanford (Jones).
That's half the Pac-12 with more talented lead runners. UW should never be in that position.
Especially not when trying to form a program "identity" around running the ball.
I would say Davis has shown some ability and hasn’t gotten a full chance. It is mostly hype, but the guys in front are lacking production and Davis has at least one run every game where it leaves us wanting more.Houhusky said:
The Clamoring for Cam (ILTCIT) is just TBS overhypeBeerThirty said:
I was wondering the same thing. The guy hasn't had the opportunity to really show his stuff. I do think he'll be good but so many posters already think he is the second coming.GrundleStiltzkin said:What am I missing on Cam Davis that everyone loves him so much? Is it a stars thing?
The OL run blocking has been well below average. THAT is the much bigger problem.
The TBSers are always short sided and want whoever the young new toy is to play until next years young new toy shows up.
I can’t stand Pleasant in short yardage. I don’t care that he’s big. He sucks at it.
These RBs do, basically, suck. Of course OL play is bad but two things can be bad at once, and often are.
CFB is a game where above average backs have plenty of opportunity to create for themselves. As you said even shitty teams have good backs.
UW doesn't really have good backs. -
Yes, he was a highly rated guy but Pleasant and Newton were 3 star fallback guys. Similar to Sunday and Berry coming in. FWIW McGrew has been the more impressive of the upperclassmen at RB.Doogles said:
McGrew was a 4-star from St.John Bosco and California Gatorade State player of the year.Kingdome_Urinals said:
Newton and Pleasant, even McGrew are not TBS favorites. Only Cam Davis is, and for good reason frankly, he's made some great catches and has the best all around physical and skill-set. If you can't see it, you can't see it. That's fine.RoadDawg55 said:
TBS overrated RB’s based on high school and camps. For some reason, shitty teams often still have good RB’s it seems.Kingdome_Urinals said:Neither McGrew or Pleasant, or Newton for that matter, can shed a defender, break a tackle or make something happen that is not provided for them by the Oline. Those are things really good RBs must do.
Within the context of what UW is trying to do, they pretty much suck. I don't take pleasure in saying that.
Here are the Pac teams with better RBs getting volume carries. ASU, UCLA, Oregon St., Utah (that freshman), USC (Carr), Stanford (Jones).
That's half the Pac-12 with more talented lead runners. UW should never be in that position.
Especially not when trying to form a program "identity" around running the ball.
I would say Davis has shown some ability and hasn’t gotten a full chance. It is mostly hype, but the guys in front are lacking production and Davis has at least one run every game where it leaves us wanting more.Houhusky said:
The Clamoring for Cam (ILTCIT) is just TBS overhypeBeerThirty said:
I was wondering the same thing. The guy hasn't had the opportunity to really show his stuff. I do think he'll be good but so many posters already think he is the second coming.GrundleStiltzkin said:What am I missing on Cam Davis that everyone loves him so much? Is it a stars thing?
The OL run blocking has been well below average. THAT is the much bigger problem.
The TBSers are always short sided and want whoever the young new toy is to play until next years young new toy shows up.
I can’t stand Pleasant in short yardage. I don’t care that he’s big. He sucks at it.
These RBs do, basically, suck. Of course OL play is bad but two things can be bad at once, and often are.
CFB is a game where above average backs have plenty of opportunity to create for themselves. As you said even shitty teams have good backs.
UW doesn't really have good backs.
He has underwhelmed in his career, but he had a good list coming out.
Thought McGrew would be faster, he doesn't have top-end open field speed which to match his quickness and burst. -
RoadDawg55 said:
McGrew was. He tore it up in high school and was considered a big play threat. Never really panned out. He’s more quick than fast. He doesn’t hit any home runs.Kingdome_Urinals said:
Newton and Pleasant, even McGrew are not TBS favorites. Only Cam Davis is, and for good reason frankly, he's made some great catches and has the best all around physical and skill-set. If you can't see it, you can't see it. That's fine.RoadDawg55 said:
TBS overrated RB’s based on high school and camps. For some reason, shitty teams often still have good RB’s it seems.Kingdome_Urinals said:Neither McGrew or Pleasant, or Newton for that matter, can shed a defender, break a tackle or make something happen that is not provided for them by the Oline. Those are things really good RBs must do.
Within the context of what UW is trying to do, they pretty much suck. I don't take pleasure in saying that.
Here are the Pac teams with better RBs getting volume carries. ASU, UCLA, Oregon St., Utah (that freshman), USC (Carr), Stanford (Jones).
That's half the Pac-12 with more talented lead runners. UW should never be in that position.
Especially not when trying to form a program "identity" around running the ball.
I would say Davis has shown some ability and hasn’t gotten a full chance. It is mostly hype, but the guys in front are lacking production and Davis has at least one run every game where it leaves us wanting more.Houhusky said:
The Clamoring for Cam (ILTCIT) is just TBS overhypeBeerThirty said:
I was wondering the same thing. The guy hasn't had the opportunity to really show his stuff. I do think he'll be good but so many posters already think he is the second coming.GrundleStiltzkin said:What am I missing on Cam Davis that everyone loves him so much? Is it a stars thing?
The OL run blocking has been well below average. THAT is the much bigger problem.
The TBSers are always short sided and want whoever the young new toy is to play until next years young new toy shows up.
I can’t stand Pleasant in short yardage. I don’t care that he’s big. He sucks at it.
These RBs do, basically, suck. Of course OL play is bad but two things can be bad at once, and often are.
CFB is a game where above average backs have plenty of opportunity to create for themselves. As you said even shitty teams have good backs.
UW doesn't really have good backs.
I think we're all on the same page here. Really thought Mcgrew would be like Ahmed and house it if he got in the open field.Kingdome_Urinals said:
Yes, he was a highly rated guy but Pleasant and Newton were 3 star fallback guys. Similar to Sunday and Berry coming in. FWIW McGrew has been the more impressive of the upperclassmen at RB.Doogles said:
McGrew was a 4-star from St.John Bosco and California Gatorade State player of the year.Kingdome_Urinals said:
Newton and Pleasant, even McGrew are not TBS favorites. Only Cam Davis is, and for good reason frankly, he's made some great catches and has the best all around physical and skill-set. If you can't see it, you can't see it. That's fine.RoadDawg55 said:
TBS overrated RB’s based on high school and camps. For some reason, shitty teams often still have good RB’s it seems.Kingdome_Urinals said:Neither McGrew or Pleasant, or Newton for that matter, can shed a defender, break a tackle or make something happen that is not provided for them by the Oline. Those are things really good RBs must do.
Within the context of what UW is trying to do, they pretty much suck. I don't take pleasure in saying that.
Here are the Pac teams with better RBs getting volume carries. ASU, UCLA, Oregon St., Utah (that freshman), USC (Carr), Stanford (Jones).
That's half the Pac-12 with more talented lead runners. UW should never be in that position.
Especially not when trying to form a program "identity" around running the ball.
I would say Davis has shown some ability and hasn’t gotten a full chance. It is mostly hype, but the guys in front are lacking production and Davis has at least one run every game where it leaves us wanting more.Houhusky said:
The Clamoring for Cam (ILTCIT) is just TBS overhypeBeerThirty said:
I was wondering the same thing. The guy hasn't had the opportunity to really show his stuff. I do think he'll be good but so many posters already think he is the second coming.GrundleStiltzkin said:What am I missing on Cam Davis that everyone loves him so much? Is it a stars thing?
The OL run blocking has been well below average. THAT is the much bigger problem.
The TBSers are always short sided and want whoever the young new toy is to play until next years young new toy shows up.
I can’t stand Pleasant in short yardage. I don’t care that he’s big. He sucks at it.
These RBs do, basically, suck. Of course OL play is bad but two things can be bad at once, and often are.
CFB is a game where above average backs have plenty of opportunity to create for themselves. As you said even shitty teams have good backs.
UW doesn't really have good backs.
He has underwhelmed in his career, but he had a good list coming out.
Thought McGrew would be faster, he doesn't have top-end open field speed which to match his quickness and burst.
He gets run down quite a bit for being a track star coming out. -
Helfrich loves McGrew.
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Kingdome_Urinals said:
Newton and Pleasant, even McGrew are not TBS favorites. Only Cam Davis is, and for good reason frankly, he's made some great catches and has the best all around physical and skill-set. If you can't see it, you can't see it. That's fine.RoadDawg55 said:
TBS overrated RB’s based on high school and camps. For some reason, shitty teams often still have good RB’s it seems.Kingdome_Urinals said:Neither McGrew or Pleasant, or Newton for that matter, can shed a defender, break a tackle or make something happen that is not provided for them by the Oline. Those are things really good RBs must do.
Within the context of what UW is trying to do, they pretty much suck. I don't take pleasure in saying that.
Here are the Pac teams with better RBs getting volume carries. ASU, UCLA, Oregon St., Utah (that freshman), USC (Carr), Stanford (Jones).
That's half the Pac-12 with more talented lead runners. UW should never be in that position.
Especially not when trying to form a program "identity" around running the ball.
I would say Davis has shown some ability and hasn’t gotten a full chance. It is mostly hype, but the guys in front are lacking production and Davis has at least one run every game where it leaves us wanting more.Houhusky said:
The Clamoring for Cam (ILTCIT) is just TBS overhypeBeerThirty said:
I was wondering the same thing. The guy hasn't had the opportunity to really show his stuff. I do think he'll be good but so many posters already think he is the second coming.GrundleStiltzkin said:What am I missing on Cam Davis that everyone loves him so much? Is it a stars thing?
The OL run blocking has been well below average. THAT is the much bigger problem.
The TBSers are always short sided and want whoever the young new toy is to play until next years young new toy shows up.
I can’t stand Pleasant in short yardage. I don’t care that he’s big. He sucks at it.
These RBs do, basically, suck. Of course OL play is bad but two things can be bad at once, and often are.
CFB is a game where above average backs have plenty of opportunity to create for themselves. As you said even shitty teams have good backs.
UW doesn't really have good backs.
Hey speak for yourself, I'm a huge TBS'er and Newton has always gotten my Richard up. -
Yeah but still.bananasnblondes said:
Cal averaged 1.9 yard a carry against OregonRaceBannon said:The good news is that even Mario and his sec line suck running this year
Cal is actually better at running than either UO or UW. They practice what we run our mouth about. Cal had Stanford beat 3 ways until they turned over the game. Cal gashed the ducks but even so need passing to actually finish the drives.
You need to be good at everything to be a good team
