Controlled study from Denmark; masks don’t work
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I assume you have no children.WestlinnDuck said:
So, who is out coughing in public? I go everywhere, gyms, restaurants and bars and shopping almost every day. I don't hear anyone coughing or sneezing. If I did, I'd get away from them. If masks worked, then we would have the chicom crud beat. What we do know is if you don't have a job then housing and food are a real problem. The hypocrisy of public school teachers saying they are afraid to teach and being rewarded by dems who are owned by the teachers unions but then going out to shop and eat at restaurants is staggering.GreenRiverGatorz said:Limitation:
Inconclusive results, missing data, variable adherence, patient-reported findings on home tests, no blinding, and no assessment of whether masks could decrease disease transmission from mask wearers to others.
Conclusion:
The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates, some degree of social distancing, and uncommon general mask use. The data were compatible with lesser degrees of self-protection.
Takeaway seems to be that wearing a mask in an environment where other people are not wearing masks only gives you a statistically insignificant reduction in transmission risk. I think that more or less gels with the conventional wisdom circulating - wearing a mask doesn't do much to protect yourself, but they are a lot more effective in preventing you from spreading the disease to someone else. Obviously the study didn't explore the latter. -
His post has nothing to do with children and everything to do with teachers being fully paid to do nothing other than grade homework. The only children you know are those you stalk on Twitter, Dildo Baggins.HustlinOwl said:
I assume you have no children.WestlinnDuck said:
So, who is out coughing in public? I go everywhere, gyms, restaurants and bars and shopping almost every day. I don't hear anyone coughing or sneezing. If I did, I'd get away from them. If masks worked, then we would have the chicom crud beat. What we do know is if you don't have a job then housing and food are a real problem. The hypocrisy of public school teachers saying they are afraid to teach and being rewarded by dems who are owned by the teachers unions but then going out to shop and eat at restaurants is staggering.GreenRiverGatorz said:Limitation:
Inconclusive results, missing data, variable adherence, patient-reported findings on home tests, no blinding, and no assessment of whether masks could decrease disease transmission from mask wearers to others.
Conclusion:
The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates, some degree of social distancing, and uncommon general mask use. The data were compatible with lesser degrees of self-protection.
Takeaway seems to be that wearing a mask in an environment where other people are not wearing masks only gives you a statistically insignificant reduction in transmission risk. I think that more or less gels with the conventional wisdom circulating - wearing a mask doesn't do much to protect yourself, but they are a lot more effective in preventing you from spreading the disease to someone else. Obviously the study didn't explore the latter. -
I have two. Here is a thought. If they have a cough don't send them to school. Schools could easily make it clear that coughs and fevers won't be tolerated. I've had my temperature checked at several retail outlets. Not hard for the schools to set up a temp station.HustlinOwl said:
I assume you have no children.WestlinnDuck said:
So, who is out coughing in public? I go everywhere, gyms, restaurants and bars and shopping almost every day. I don't hear anyone coughing or sneezing. If I did, I'd get away from them. If masks worked, then we would have the chicom crud beat. What we do know is if you don't have a job then housing and food are a real problem. The hypocrisy of public school teachers saying they are afraid to teach and being rewarded by dems who are owned by the teachers unions but then going out to shop and eat at restaurants is staggering.GreenRiverGatorz said:Limitation:
Inconclusive results, missing data, variable adherence, patient-reported findings on home tests, no blinding, and no assessment of whether masks could decrease disease transmission from mask wearers to others.
Conclusion:
The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates, some degree of social distancing, and uncommon general mask use. The data were compatible with lesser degrees of self-protection.
Takeaway seems to be that wearing a mask in an environment where other people are not wearing masks only gives you a statistically insignificant reduction in transmission risk. I think that more or less gels with the conventional wisdom circulating - wearing a mask doesn't do much to protect yourself, but they are a lot more effective in preventing you from spreading the disease to someone else. Obviously the study didn't explore the latter. -
Kids never got sick at school before
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Kids don't die of COVID either.RaceBannon said:Kids never got sick at school before
Kids die from suicide attributable to anxiety and depression.
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I'm thinking moar about the economy and your bidness taking back off. People can wear masks and argue about it until the cows come home as long as the economis keeps rolling. But social distancing is the bitch in all this and is what's hurting small and large bidness alike.RaceBannon said:
I'm the opposite. I hate wearing a mask and peoplecreepycoug said:That disappointing part of that isn't the mask part, but the social distancing part. There is at least an implication that social distancing works.
If I had my druthers, I'd rather they conclude masks work and social distancing doesn't matter. Much easier.
We dropped Christmas when the kids grew up and our niece flew the coup. Thanksgiving is a distant memory unless the son comes down which he can't this year but still
But I am tempted to go out and find 20 people off the street for Thanksgiving this year
I honestly don't know what is keeping this stock market going; but I'm tempted to liquidate to cash here pretty soon. I know, great board choice as always. -
I'm waiting for the re set now. Fuck working give me free shitcreepycoug said:
I'm thinking moar about the economy and your bidness taking back off. People can wear masks and argue about it until the cows come home as long as the economis keeps rolling. But social distancing is the bitch in all this and is what's hurting small and large bidness alike.RaceBannon said:
I'm the opposite. I hate wearing a mask and peoplecreepycoug said:That disappointing part of that isn't the mask part, but the social distancing part. There is at least an implication that social distancing works.
If I had my druthers, I'd rather they conclude masks work and social distancing doesn't matter. Much easier.
We dropped Christmas when the kids grew up and our niece flew the coup. Thanksgiving is a distant memory unless the son comes down which he can't this year but still
But I am tempted to go out and find 20 people off the street for Thanksgiving this year
I honestly don't know what is keeping this stock market going; but I'm tempted to liquidate to cash here pretty soon. I know, great board choice as always. -
Hope of gridlock in the short term.creepycoug said:
I'm thinking moar about the economy and your bidness taking back off. People can wear masks and argue about it until the cows come home as long as the economis keeps rolling. But social distancing is the bitch in all this and is what's hurting small and large bidness alike.RaceBannon said:
I'm the opposite. I hate wearing a mask and peoplecreepycoug said:That disappointing part of that isn't the mask part, but the social distancing part. There is at least an implication that social distancing works.
If I had my druthers, I'd rather they conclude masks work and social distancing doesn't matter. Much easier.
We dropped Christmas when the kids grew up and our niece flew the coup. Thanksgiving is a distant memory unless the son comes down which he can't this year but still
But I am tempted to go out and find 20 people off the street for Thanksgiving this year
I honestly don't know what is keeping this stock market going; but I'm tempted to liquidate to cash here pretty soon. I know, great board choice as always. -
I see the haters of liberty have swarmed in to tell how this study is flawed and to trust Inslee, Newsome and Brown, the triumvirate of all that is science.
Full disclosure masks don't bother me much at all, and I wear them anytim a business posts it, without complaint. It's the lockdowns and business restrictions that I am mostly carping about. In fact, if masks and masks mandates work so well, then why do we even need lockdowns? Dissonant positions but what do I know? I'm a dumb minority. -
And you're high risk for infectionSwaye said:I see the haters of liberty have swarmed in to tell how this study is flawed and to trust Inslee, Newsome and Brown, the triumvirate of all that is science.
Full disclosure masks don't bother me much at all, and I wear them anytim a business posts it, without complaint. It's the lockdowns and business restrictions that I am mostly carping about. In fact, if masks and masks mandates work so well, then why do we even need lockdowns? Dissonant positions but what do I know? I'm a dumb minority.
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