The O line
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Oh I love Westover. I think he's a total stud. I'd just be interested to see how Culp would perform at that position since he clearly didn't cut it as a traditional TE.RoadDawg55 said:
There is a lot of bullshit spewed about Westover because he’s white and was a walk on. He was never healthy in high school and was overlooked. The article in the Seattle Times said he ran a 4.6 and his vert was like 38” which was top 5-10 on the team.bananasnblondes said:Yeah, Westover seems to be full on FB. I hope we blow someone out because I'd like to see Culp get some time at that position. He was a RB in high school.
He’s a very good athlete, seems tough, and was a good find. That has nothing to do with Culp, but I thought Westover was decent last year and will end up a good player for us. Not a star, but hopefully a guy that doesn’t everything relatively well and plays his role well. -
I've seen him run, catch and block. He's solid, but ill reserve judgement until he throws a pass or pooch punts.RoadDawg55 said:
There is a lot of bullshit spewed about Westover because he’s white and was a walk on. He was never healthy in high school and was overlooked. The article in the Seattle Times said he ran a 4.6 and his vert was like 38” which was top 5-10 on the team.bananasnblondes said:Yeah, Westover seems to be full on FB. I hope we blow someone out because I'd like to see Culp get some time at that position. He was a RB in high school.
He’s a very good athlete, seems tough, and was a good find. That has nothing to do with Culp, but I thought Westover was decent last year and will end up a good player for us. Not a star, but hopefully a guy that doesn’t everything relatively well and plays his role well. -
I believe he had the crucial hold toward the end of the game when we were in the red zone. It was the cal game 2.0 until the qb threw the ball off his offensive lineman back.CallMeBigErn said:
As far as I'm aware, Luciano did NOT false start on the goal line this game. Progress.Woof said:I counted Luciano as an additional TE, so that's the discrepancy on my end. I presumed he was technically eligible, but I don't claim to be an expert on all of this.
In the doldrums of summer, I actually tried to chart the entire 2019 offense to see if some of my memories were correct. Mercifully, the Husky Archive didn't have recordings of the Colorado or Stanford games, so I was forced to stop after 4-5 games.
It seems like this was appreciated, so I'll try to keep this up going forward. There are some good sites that compile the stats, but I'd never been able to find personnel groupings or specific plays/formations (wildcat and 5 wide in particular for the 2019 offense), so that's why I just started doing it myself. I'll have to check out this Sports Info Solutions site, but I'm assuming you have to pay for it and I'm a cheap bastard. -
Culp’s dropped fourth down conversion last year told me all I need to know.
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1st down:Woof said:
After being bullied by @dnc here is the revised down and distance.dnc said:
That's play by distance not down and distance. If you have it broken down by down and distance that would be chinteresting. Obviously first down is mostly 10 yards to go but second down 1-3 yards to go, 3-7 yards to go etc and same for third down would be chinteresting.Woof said:
Play by down and distance:
1-3 yards to go - 87% run
3-7 yards to go - 75% run
8+ yards to go - 65% run
Also this is probably unrealistic but if you have numbers for averages either in CFB or P5 to have a baseline to compare against that would be quite helpful.
Not expecting you to, but ye have not because ye axe not, yada yada.
1st down:
1-3 yards - 1 time (1st and goal), 100% rush
4-7 yards - 2 times, 100% rush
8+ yards - 28 times, 75% rush
2nd down
1-3 yards - 5 times, 100% rush
4-7 yards - 8 times, 100% rush
8+ yards - 9 times, 77% pass
3rd down
1-3 yards - 7 times, 72% rush
4-7 yards - 7 times, 72% pass
8+ yards - 4 times, 75% pass
I don't love the 2nd down numbers, but it's a small sample. I'm staying fairly optimistic for many of the reasons Gladstone pointed out earlier.
1-3 yards - 1 time (1st and goal), 100% rush
4-7 yards - 2 times, 100% rush
8+ yards - 28 times, 75% rush
2nd down
1-3 yards - 5 times, 100% rush
4-7 yards - 8 times, 100% rush
8+ yards - 9 times, 77% pass
3rd down
1-3 yards - 7 times, 72% rush
4-7 yards - 7 times, 72% pass
8+ yards - 4 times, 75% pass
Based on these numbers, we ran the ball about ~75% on standard downs (First downs, second-and-7 or fewer, third-and-4 or fewer, and fourth-and-4 or fewer)... As of 2018, national average was around 60%.
On passing downs (Second-and-8 or more, third-and-5 or more, or fourth-and-5 or more) we threw ~75%... In 2018 the national average was around 66%.
Relatively orthodox, in terms of pass and run distribution, based on down-n-distance.
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The first down numbers are somewhat concerning. It’s a myth that running on early downs helps protect your QB. If anything you want to pass more on early downs because it puts 3rd downs in a much more manageable position instead of 3rd and 6+. Also allows you to avoid 3rd downs completely which you obviously want to do. It’s Oregon State and it was shitty weather, still too early but it’s not good.Woof said:
After being bullied by @dnc here is the revised down and distance.dnc said:
That's play by distance not down and distance. If you have it broken down by down and distance that would be chinteresting. Obviously first down is mostly 10 yards to go but second down 1-3 yards to go, 3-7 yards to go etc and same for third down would be chinteresting.Woof said:
Play by down and distance:
1-3 yards to go - 87% run
3-7 yards to go - 75% run
8+ yards to go - 65% run
Also this is probably unrealistic but if you have numbers for averages either in CFB or P5 to have a baseline to compare against that would be quite helpful.
Not expecting you to, but ye have not because ye axe not, yada yada.
1st down:
1-3 yards - 1 time (1st and goal), 100% rush
4-7 yards - 2 times, 100% rush
8+ yards - 28 times, 75% rush
2nd down
1-3 yards - 5 times, 100% rush
4-7 yards - 8 times, 100% rush
8+ yards - 9 times, 77% pass
3rd down
1-3 yards - 7 times, 72% rush
4-7 yards - 7 times, 72% pass
8+ yards - 4 times, 75% pass
I don't love the 2nd down numbers, but it's a small sample. I'm staying fairly optimistic for many of the reasons Gladstone pointed out earlier.
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You're right about Wattenberg but wow, man. Kirkland? Is this a meme?backthepack said:Bain and Curne are amazing.
Ale is getting there.
Kirkland and Wattenberg suck






