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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,550 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    Yes I think Lake is making the classic mistake of "what is hardest for me to defend against = what kind of offense we need" when what he doesn't realize is that he's not building an offense to beat his defense, he's building an offense to beat Pac12 defenses and Pac12 defenses aren't near as good as defending the pass as his defense.

    TL;DR: *Gurgle*

    Every team UW has lost to the last 5 years were all strong running teams. Even look at Oregon last year, Cristobal just kept handing it off when Herbert was trying to throw the game away.

    Bama, tOSU, Penn St., Stanford, Oregon...They all could run power when they wanted to and play keep away if need be.

    Hurts was a raw freshmen in the playoff game. If Bama didn't have the rumbling backs they could have been in trouble had Jake not bailed them out

    UW could have beat Hurts
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,896
    dnc said:

    Bread said:

    Jimmy is a little smarter then you idiots. They aren't rolling out a power run scheme every week. He hates offenses that target his defenses weakness. The offense is going to attack each teams weakness.

    Complete opposite of Petersen's "who cares who we play, we are just going to do what we do best."

    You might be right.

    If all we can score is 27 points by attacking OSU's weaknesses I have a lot of questions.
    Consider that three different passes were dropped in the endzone. It's not like Jimmy handed off every play, Ty Jones, and Odunze botched it. So did Bynum on third down, etc..

    Those miscues do not owe to a "running philosophy." They owe to 4 star WR's fucking up at their jobs.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    dnc said:

    Yes I think Lake is making the classic mistake of "what is hardest for me to defend against = what kind of offense we need" when what he doesn't realize is that he's not building an offense to beat his defense, he's building an offense to beat Pac12 defenses and Pac12 defenses aren't near as good as defending the pass as his defense.

    TL;DR: *Gurgle*

    Every team UW has lost to the last 5 years were all strong running teams. Even look at Oregon last year, Cristobal just kept handing it off when Herbert was trying to throw the game away.

    Bama, tOSU, Penn St., Stanford, Oregon...They all could run power when they wanted to and play keep away if need be.

    tOSU and Penn State absolutely beat us with the pass.

    The others I agree.

    And again this isn't coincidence and it isn't because running is a superior strategy. It's because our defense is designed to stop the pass. 2 down lineman and 5 DB's in base is highly unusual, and it's been highly effective overall. Jimmy understands innately that the passing game is the most valuable part of the game, that's why he (and K) attempt to take it away (and basically outside of the Penn State and tOSU games, succeed) from other team's offenses first.

    It's just fascinating that he doesn't carry that same mindset to the offensive side of the ball.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    To me, it's as simple as this:

    If Alabama or Ohio State or Clemson East were to pop into Microwave Burrito Stadium to face off against the mighty Oregon State Babushkas, is their offensive philosophy to target OSU's weakness on defense? Or is their philosophy to do whatever the fuck they want because they're that much better? I'm betting Alabama would roll in there and pass for 400 yards rather easily.

    If I were to pick a fistfight with a crippled eight year old girl, I would wail away in any manner I please. Avoiding her left side because her right hook is weaker would be... pathetic.

    I wasn't a big fan of your offseason posts but you and I have seen eye to eye the last few days for sure. Good chit man.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    dnc said:

    Bread said:

    Jimmy is a little smarter then you idiots. They aren't rolling out a power run scheme every week. He hates offenses that target his defenses weakness. The offense is going to attack each teams weakness.

    Complete opposite of Petersen's "who cares who we play, we are just going to do what we do best."

    You might be right.

    If all we can score is 27 points by attacking OSU's weaknesses I have a lot of questions.
    Consider that three different passes were dropped in the endzone. It's not like Jimmy handed off every play, Ty Jones, and Odunze botched it. So did Bynum on third down, etc..

    Those miscues do not owe to a "running philosophy." They owe to 4 star WR's fucking up at their jobs.
    We ran 51 times and threw 24 (and those numbers aren't skewed by sacks as there weren't any). And it's not like we had a huge lead and were sitting on the ball to kill clock half the game either. The game plan was to run twice as much as we passed.

    We won, so it worked, I guess.

    But running like you're 1990s Nebraska without the benefit of an option QB wasn't anything that should inspire confidence in anyone.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    dnc said:

    To me, it's as simple as this:

    If Alabama or Ohio State or Clemson East were to pop into Microwave Burrito Stadium to face off against the mighty Oregon State Babushkas, is their offensive philosophy to target OSU's weakness on defense? Or is their philosophy to do whatever the fuck they want because they're that much better? I'm betting Alabama would roll in there and pass for 400 yards rather easily.

    If I were to pick a fistfight with a crippled eight year old girl, I would wail away in any manner I please. Avoiding her left side because her right hook is weaker would be... pathetic.

    I wasn't a big fan of your offseason posts but you and I have seen eye to eye the last few days for sure. Good chit man.
    Look, I get it: Sigur Ros isn't for everyone. But it's not real life like Husky football.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,678

    Bread said:

    Jimmy is a little smarter then you idiots. They aren't rolling out a power run scheme every week. He hates offenses that target his defenses weakness. The offense is going to attack each teams weakness.

    Complete opposite of Petersen's "who cares who we play, we are just going to do what we do best."

    This

    While it is possible to be worse than Peterson I don't see it happening

    By the time Pete let I was so over him it wasn't funny

    And by the way the TSIO guys have some explaining to do as well. Blue chips my ass

    Get me football players who make football plays. Not 7 on 7 all stars
    We just need more recruits with 2 black parents, that are also not Nigerians like Ulofoshio, and all are problems will be solved

    According to those fucking idiots