The O line
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I'm glad Curne looked good. That bodes well for the future. But the thrust of your dumbfuckery has nothing to do with Curne, it has to do with your odd disdain for Kirkland.backthepack said:BeerThirty said:
You like Curne because he is black, has a huge ass, and DDY told you to.backthepack said:Curne is a superstar
You don't like Kirkland because...well...figure it out.
Prove me wrong.
Curne graded out significantly higher than Kirkland did last week. Curne didn’t allow a pressure and he was going up against a future NFL player. He was mauling in the run game too. -
Deserves own thread!Woof said:
I went back and charted out every single offensive play. RIP my eyes, right @GrandpaSankey ? It's a small sample size, but the data doesn't support what BTP is suggesting.Gladstone said:1) High percentage of plays w 2 or 3 TEs
2) Run first offense that is keeping the offense "on time"
3) High rate of 3rd down conversions - especially when running
4) Dominating TOP
It's the HH offense people cried for -- one that plays to our proven strengths (RB, O-line, TE) and should help RB recruiting going forward.
I'm looking for any reason to bash the OC but this gameplan all things considered was fine to me. Now if it's the same exact thing against UA...
In our non-penalty, non-garbage time offensive plays this is what happened:
Formation
11 personnel - 43%
13 personnel - 29%
12 personnel - 18%
14 personnel - 8%
21 personnel - 1%
55% of our plays were multiple TE sets. Note: I counted Westover as a TE in this, even if he was lined up in the backfield.
Rushing
Ran to the left side 51% of the time
Ran to the right side 43% of the time
Ran behind the center 6% of the time (Morris sneaks or where I couldn't quite tell)
We ran inside the tackles 86% of the time and outside the tackles 14% of the time.
Our success rates and stats for these runs were as follows:
Left-side outside the tackle: 80% success rate, 45 yards, 9.0 YPC
Left-side inside the tackle: 55% success rate, 146 yards, 7.8 YPC
Middle: 100% success rate, 7 yards, 2.3 YPC
Right-side inside the tackle: 47% success rate, 59 yards, 3.1 YPC
Right-side outside the tackle: 100% success rate, 24 yards, 12.0 YPC
Success rate by runner:
Newton: 40%
Pleasant: 36%
McGrew 78%
Morris: 100%
Westover 100%
Davis 50%
Bynum 100%
Odunze 0%
McMillan 100%
Passing
We ran play action 8 times, or 33% of the times we dropped back to throw.
Success rate with play action: 50%
Success rate without play action: 40%
I can cut the numbers a few more ways if anyone cares.
To be fair to little btp since he is taking quite the beating lately and hasn’t yet quit again...the stats do show UW ran more to the left and had more success on that side as well. -
Westover, 100%. Best offensive player. Case closed.Woof said:
I went back and charted out every single offensive play. RIP my eyes, right @GrandpaSankey ? It's a small sample size, but the data doesn't support what BTP is suggesting.Gladstone said:1) High percentage of plays w 2 or 3 TEs
2) Run first offense that is keeping the offense "on time"
3) High rate of 3rd down conversions - especially when running
4) Dominating TOP
It's the HH offense people cried for -- one that plays to our proven strengths (RB, O-line, TE) and should help RB recruiting going forward.
I'm looking for any reason to bash the OC but this gameplan all things considered was fine to me. Now if it's the same exact thing against UA...
In our non-penalty, non-garbage time offensive plays this is what happened:
Formation
11 personnel - 43%
13 personnel - 29%
12 personnel - 18%
14 personnel - 8%
21 personnel - 1%
55% of our plays were multiple TE sets. Note: I counted Westover as a TE in this, even if he was lined up in the backfield.
Rushing
Ran to the left side 51% of the time
Ran to the right side 43% of the time
Ran behind the center 6% of the time (Morris sneaks or where I couldn't quite tell)
We ran inside the tackles 86% of the time and outside the tackles 14% of the time.
Our success rates and stats for these runs were as follows:
Left-side outside the tackle: 80% success rate, 45 yards, 9.0 YPC
Left-side inside the tackle: 55% success rate, 146 yards, 7.8 YPC
Middle: 100% success rate, 7 yards, 2.3 YPC
Right-side inside the tackle: 47% success rate, 59 yards, 3.1 YPC
Right-side outside the tackle: 100% success rate, 24 yards, 12.0 YPC
Success rate by runner:
Newton: 40%
Pleasant: 36%
McGrew 78%
Morris: 100%
Westover 100%
Davis 50%
Bynum 100%
Odunze 0%
McMillan 100%
Passing
We ran play action 8 times, or 33% of the times we dropped back to throw.
Success rate with play action: 50%
Success rate without play action: 40%
I can cut the numbers a few more ways if anyone cares. -
Good chit. Twatted.Woof said:
I went back and charted out every single offensive play. RIP my eyes, right @GrandpaSankey ? It's a small sample size, but the data doesn't support what BTP is suggesting.Gladstone said:1) High percentage of plays w 2 or 3 TEs
2) Run first offense that is keeping the offense "on time"
3) High rate of 3rd down conversions - especially when running
4) Dominating TOP
It's the HH offense people cried for -- one that plays to our proven strengths (RB, O-line, TE) and should help RB recruiting going forward.
I'm looking for any reason to bash the OC but this gameplan all things considered was fine to me. Now if it's the same exact thing against UA...
In our non-penalty, non-garbage time offensive plays this is what happened:
Formation
11 personnel - 43%
13 personnel - 29%
12 personnel - 18%
14 personnel - 8%
21 personnel - 1%
55% of our plays were multiple TE sets. Note: I counted Westover as a TE in this, even if he was lined up in the backfield.
Rushing
Ran to the left side 51% of the time
Ran to the right side 43% of the time
Ran behind the center 6% of the time (Morris sneaks or where I couldn't quite tell)
We ran inside the tackles 86% of the time and outside the tackles 14% of the time.
Our success rates and stats for these runs were as follows:
Left-side outside the tackle: 80% success rate, 45 yards, 9.0 YPC
Left-side inside the tackle: 55% success rate, 146 yards, 7.8 YPC
Middle: 100% success rate, 7 yards, 2.3 YPC
Right-side inside the tackle: 47% success rate, 59 yards, 3.1 YPC
Right-side outside the tackle: 100% success rate, 24 yards, 12.0 YPC
Success rate by runner:
Newton: 40%
Pleasant: 36%
McGrew 78%
Morris: 100%
Westover 100%
Davis 50%
Bynum 100%
Odunze 0%
McMillan 100%
Passing
We ran play action 8 times, or 33% of the times we dropped back to throw.
Success rate with play action: 50%
Success rate without play action: 40%
I can cut the numbers a few more ways if anyone cares. -
For @Crow_T_Robot
Success rate is a measure of whether you can get 40% of yards to gain on 1st down, 60% on 2nd down, and 100% on 3rd or 4th down. Some sites adjust that for CFB to 50%, 70%, and 100% respectively, but I didn't because I'm lazy and I found sites doing it both ways. -
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Kevin Sumlin after reading Woof’s post
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@WoofWoof said:For @Crow_T_Robot
Success rate is a measure of whether you can get 40% of yards to gain on 1st down, 60% on 2nd down, and 100% on 3rd or 4th down. Some sites adjust that for CFB to 50%, 70%, and 100% respectively, but I didn't because I'm lazy and I found sites doing it both ways.
@TacoSoup used to be here -
Tell him to get the fuck back here then.GrundleStiltzkin said:
@WoofWoof said:For @Crow_T_Robot
Success rate is a measure of whether you can get 40% of yards to gain on 1st down, 60% on 2nd down, and 100% on 3rd or 4th down. Some sites adjust that for CFB to 50%, 70%, and 100% respectively, but I didn't because I'm lazy and I found sites doing it both ways.
@TacoSoup used to be here
Play selection by down:
1st down - 77% run
2nd down - 68% run
3rd down - 47% run
4th down - 100% run
Completion % by down:
1st down - 71%
2nd down - 57%
3rd down - 44%
Success rate by down:
1st down - 65%
2nd down - 36%
3rd down - 53%
4th down - 100% (always go for it!)
Play by down and distance:
1-3 yards to go - 87% run
3-7 yards to go - 75% run
8+ yards to go - 65% run -
Woof said:
I went back and charted out every single offensive play. RIP my eyes, right @GrandpaSankey ? It's a small sample size, but the data doesn't support what BTP is suggesting.Gladstone said:1) High percentage of plays w 2 or 3 TEs
2) Run first offense that is keeping the offense "on time"
3) High rate of 3rd down conversions - especially when running
4) Dominating TOP
It's the HH offense people cried for -- one that plays to our proven strengths (RB, O-line, TE) and should help RB recruiting going forward.
I'm looking for any reason to bash the OC but this gameplan all things considered was fine to me. Now if it's the same exact thing against UA...
In our non-penalty, non-garbage time offensive plays this is what happened:
Formation
11 personnel - 43%
13 personnel - 29%
12 personnel - 18%
14 personnel - 8%
21 personnel - 1%
55% of our plays were multiple TE sets. Note: I counted Westover as a TE in this, even if he was lined up in the backfield.
Rushing
Ran to the left side 51% of the time
Ran to the right side 43% of the time
Ran behind the center 6% of the time (Morris sneaks or where I couldn't quite tell)
We ran inside the tackles 86% of the time and outside the tackles 14% of the time.
Our success rates and stats for these runs were as follows:
Left-side outside the tackle: 80% success rate, 45 yards, 9.0 YPC
Left-side inside the tackle: 55% success rate, 146 yards, 7.8 YPC
Middle: 100% success rate, 7 yards, 2.3 YPC
Right-side inside the tackle: 47% success rate, 59 yards, 3.1 YPC
Right-side outside the tackle: 100% success rate, 24 yards, 12.0 YPC
Success rate by runner:
Newton: 40%
Pleasant: 36%
McGrew 78%
Morris: 100%
Westover 100%
Davis 50%
Bynum 100%
Odunze 0%
McMillan 100%
Passing
We ran play action 8 times, or 33% of the times we dropped back to throw.
Success rate with play action: 50%
Success rate without play action: 40%
I can cut the numbers a few more ways if anyone cares.
I love this stuff and I love you @Woof ! JonDon fan club for life!
In addition to your hard work, here are some more notes (thanks Caple!)
Sports Info Solutions (slightly different than your count, but basically the same):
- UW had at least two tight ends on the field for 57.3% of its offensive snaps.
- Otton was on the field for every snap, along with Morris and the OL
- Jack Westover played 44 snaps, only behind Otton and Terrell Bynum (47) for pass catchers.
- Westover and Otton both lined up at fullback during the game.
- Mark Redman played 22 snaps, all a part of 3 TE set (29% of plays).
- 2019 UW used multiple tight ends on 74.1% of plays, but often lining up Bryant as a receiver.
- Against OSU, UW used multiple tight ends on 36 of their 51 rushing attempts (only seven of Morris’ 24 pass attempts).
- Corey Luciano had 13 snaps as a sixth offensive lineman, including seven of 14 plays on their final possession, all rushes.
- UW played Otton, Westover, Redman and Luciano together on a total of six snaps, including Kamari Pleasant’s 15-yard TD.
- 26 snaps Rome Odunze and Puka Nacua for third-most among wideouts. 21 of those were single WR sets and 23 came with either Redman or Luciano in jumbo sets.
- Either Rome is a great blocker or they are setting teams up later in the season for a deep play action to a very fast Rome.
- Only 30.7% of their offensive plays were out of the shotgun. Shotgun was used 56.5% of the time in 2019, least in the Pac-12. Jimmy and JonDon are going hard the opposite direction of the rest of CFB, at least after 1 game.






