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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Sounds like Patriots answered the call once again
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Your retweet - Joe is about to swing the EO pendulum back. And the next GOP (LOL that will never happen) will undo Joe. Congress has abdicated their responsibility

    And I hate that. On principle, I could jive with Joe rescinding Trump EOs. That’s not going to happen. He’ll rescind all of Trump’s and add 50% more new ones, just as Trump did, and Obama did, and Bush, and so on. The opposing party will raise hell about the EOs but never address the real issue.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Whomever was involved in fooling the CIC in order to keep US troops in danger as occupiers in Syria should be court-martialed and imprisoned if true.

    Trump was the last chance to restore power back to the people and expose the rot of DC.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,721 Founders Club
    We'll be in Syria for real in time for Easter
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    People forget that Rome once had a functioning Senate but ended up giving in to dictatorship. It was to be temporary. Just long enough to flatten the curve

    Dialed in. This same perversion is playing out 50 times over. Jay famously dismissed the need for an emergency session of the state legislature. A few token disagreements but here we still are. We are a fiat country now.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    Whomever was involved in fooling the CIC in order to keep US troops in danger as occupiers in Syria should be court-martialed and imprisoned if true.

    Trump was the last chance to restore power back to the people and expose the rot of DC.

    At least peacefully. History will eventually repeat itself.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,025

    Its ok because Trump is unpopular

    Well, he was mean. And orange.

    Totally justifiable.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    Horrible optics for Liz Sly and WaPo aside, the original article is a fascinating read.

    https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/11/outgoing-syria-envoy-admits-hiding-us-troop-numbers-praises-trumps-mideast-record/170012/

    Jeffrey now says that Trump’s “modest” and transactional approach to the Middle East has yielded a more stable region than either of his predecessors’ more transformational policies. President George W. Bush’s 2003 State of the Union speech heralding the seismic U.S. intervention into Iraq and President Barack Obama’s 2009 speech in Cairo proclaiming a “new beginning” with the Muslim world represent an approach to the Middle East that “made things worse” and “weakened us,” Jeffrey said. Trump’s administration, he said, has looked at the Middle East through a geostrategic lens and kept its focus on Iran, Russia, and China, while keeping the metastatic “disease” of Islamist terror in check.

    Jeffrey believes Trump has achieved a kind of political and military “stalemate” in a number of different cold and hot conflicts, producing a situation that is about the best any administration could hope for in such a messy, volatile region.

    Other administrations did the opposite and instigated and participated in new conflicts in the region. They don’t want stalemates, they have military contractors who helped elect them to enrich.

    As I said in another thread, I expect ‘Assad’ to ‘gas his own people’ sometime next year even though he has no reason to do so, and we? have to intervene to save them by sending in more troops.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165



    Horrible optics for Liz Sly and WaPo aside, the original article is a fascinating read.

    https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/11/outgoing-syria-envoy-admits-hiding-us-troop-numbers-praises-trumps-mideast-record/170012/

    Jeffrey now says that Trump’s “modest” and transactional approach to the Middle East has yielded a more stable region than either of his predecessors’ more transformational policies. President George W. Bush’s 2003 State of the Union speech heralding the seismic U.S. intervention into Iraq and President Barack Obama’s 2009 speech in Cairo proclaiming a “new beginning” with the Muslim world represent an approach to the Middle East that “made things worse” and “weakened us,” Jeffrey said. Trump’s administration, he said, has looked at the Middle East through a geostrategic lens and kept its focus on Iran, Russia, and China, while keeping the metastatic “disease” of Islamist terror in check.

    Jeffrey believes Trump has achieved a kind of political and military “stalemate” in a number of different cold and hot conflicts, producing a situation that is about the best any administration could hope for in such a messy, volatile region.

    Other administrations did the opposite and instigated and participated in new conflicts in the region. They don’t want stalemates, they have military contractors who helped elect them to enrich.

    As I said in another thread, I expect ‘Assad’ to ‘gas his own people’ sometime next year even though he has no reason to do so, and we? have to intervene to save them by sending in more troops.
    That the military industrial complex exists and is a problem does not have to contradict the fact that Assad launched a sarin gas attack against his own citizens.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    Its like you guys haven't accepted the fact we live in a banana republic now...


  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972



    Horrible optics for Liz Sly and WaPo aside, the original article is a fascinating read.

    https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/11/outgoing-syria-envoy-admits-hiding-us-troop-numbers-praises-trumps-mideast-record/170012/

    Jeffrey now says that Trump’s “modest” and transactional approach to the Middle East has yielded a more stable region than either of his predecessors’ more transformational policies. President George W. Bush’s 2003 State of the Union speech heralding the seismic U.S. intervention into Iraq and President Barack Obama’s 2009 speech in Cairo proclaiming a “new beginning” with the Muslim world represent an approach to the Middle East that “made things worse” and “weakened us,” Jeffrey said. Trump’s administration, he said, has looked at the Middle East through a geostrategic lens and kept its focus on Iran, Russia, and China, while keeping the metastatic “disease” of Islamist terror in check.

    Jeffrey believes Trump has achieved a kind of political and military “stalemate” in a number of different cold and hot conflicts, producing a situation that is about the best any administration could hope for in such a messy, volatile region.

    Other administrations did the opposite and instigated and participated in new conflicts in the region. They don’t want stalemates, they have military contractors who helped elect them to enrich.

    As I said in another thread, I expect ‘Assad’ to ‘gas his own people’ sometime next year even though he has no reason to do so, and we? have to intervene to save them by sending in more troops.
    That the military industrial complex exists and is a problem does not have to contradict the fact that Assad launched a sarin gas attack against his own citizens.
    Assad had no reason to launch that attack Duoma. ISIS had much more to gain by prompting military support from the USA against Assad. A false flag seems likely as Assad had nothing to gain by gassing them.

  • Duckwithabone
    Duckwithabone Member Posts: 272

    Whomever was involved in fooling the CIC in order to keep US troops in danger as occupiers in Syria should be court-martialed and imprisoned if true.

    Trump was the last chance to restore power back to the people and expose the rot of DC.

    Yup he was the savior. Sent to save the children and destroy dirty libs everywhere. That swamp level sure is lower.
  • Duckwithabone
    Duckwithabone Member Posts: 272

    I’m just happy the US elected the VP of the administration that armed ISIS and gave billions to Iran so they could continue to fund terrorism.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/01/21/politics/john-kerry-money-iran-sanctions-terrorism/index.html

    John Kerry: Some sanctions relief money for Iran will go to terrorism
    By Elise Labott, CNN
    Updated 2:39 PM EST, Thu January 21, 2016

    Davos, Switzerland(CNN) Secretary of State John Kerry acknowledged to CNBC Thursday that some of the money Iran received in sanctions relief would go to groups considered terrorists.

    When asked about whether some the $150 billion in sanctions relief to Iran would go to terrorist groups, Kerry reiterated that, after settling debts, Iran would receive closer to $55 billion. He conceded some of that could go to groups considered terrorists, saying there was nothing the U.S. could do to prevent that.

    Ouch that’s a real bummer. Major piece of dirt you got there. We totally shouldn’t vote for any politician that’s made questionable policy decisions, especially when it comes to global fiscal decisions.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    edited November 2020



    Horrible optics for Liz Sly and WaPo aside, the original article is a fascinating read.

    https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/11/outgoing-syria-envoy-admits-hiding-us-troop-numbers-praises-trumps-mideast-record/170012/

    Jeffrey now says that Trump’s “modest” and transactional approach to the Middle East has yielded a more stable region than either of his predecessors’ more transformational policies. President George W. Bush’s 2003 State of the Union speech heralding the seismic U.S. intervention into Iraq and President Barack Obama’s 2009 speech in Cairo proclaiming a “new beginning” with the Muslim world represent an approach to the Middle East that “made things worse” and “weakened us,” Jeffrey said. Trump’s administration, he said, has looked at the Middle East through a geostrategic lens and kept its focus on Iran, Russia, and China, while keeping the metastatic “disease” of Islamist terror in check.

    Jeffrey believes Trump has achieved a kind of political and military “stalemate” in a number of different cold and hot conflicts, producing a situation that is about the best any administration could hope for in such a messy, volatile region.

    Other administrations did the opposite and instigated and participated in new conflicts in the region. They don’t want stalemates, they have military contractors who helped elect them to enrich.

    As I said in another thread, I expect ‘Assad’ to ‘gas his own people’ sometime next year even though he has no reason to do so, and we? have to intervene to save them by sending in more troops.
    That the military industrial complex exists and is a problem does not have to contradict the fact that Assad launched a sarin gas attack against his own citizens.
    Assad had no reason to launch it...all it would result in is him getting bombed, and if the war-hawks had their way invaded as well. When the UN guy comes out 2 years later and says they lied...well...they lied.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7718627/Sexed-dossier-furore-alleged-poison-gas-attack-Assad.html

    But we live in a banana republic now...expect more of these types of things to be happening...
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited November 2020

    I’m just happy the US elected the VP of the administration that armed ISIS and gave billions to Iran so they could continue to fund terrorism.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/01/21/politics/john-kerry-money-iran-sanctions-terrorism/index.html

    John Kerry: Some sanctions relief money for Iran will go to terrorism
    By Elise Labott, CNN
    Updated 2:39 PM EST, Thu January 21, 2016

    Davos, Switzerland(CNN) Secretary of State John Kerry acknowledged to CNBC Thursday that some of the money Iran received in sanctions relief would go to groups considered terrorists.

    When asked about whether some the $150 billion in sanctions relief to Iran would go to terrorist groups, Kerry reiterated that, after settling debts, Iran would receive closer to $55 billion. He conceded some of that could go to groups considered terrorists, saying there was nothing the U.S. could do to prevent that.

    Ouch that’s a real bummer. Major piece of dirt you got there. We totally shouldn’t vote for any politician that’s made questionable policy decisions, especially when it comes to global fiscal decisions.
    Funding Iranian terrorism is now a “questionable policy decision” even after they paid the Taliban bounties for killing US troops. A fair media and Biden doesn’t it make it past the first few Democrat primaries.

    2010 bounties on US soldiers.

    2016 give billions to the same people who paid bounties and is “questionable.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna39014669

    Iran is paying Taliban fighters $1,000 for each U.S. soldier they kill in Afghanistan, according to a report in a British newspaper.

    The Sunday Times described how a man it said was a "Taliban treasurer" had gone to collect $18,000 from an Iranian firm in Kabul, a reward it said was for an attack in July which killed several Afghan government troops and destroyed an American armored vehicle.

    The treasurer left with the cash hidden in a sack of flour, the newspaper said, and then gave it to Taliban fighters in the province of Wardak. In the past six months, the treasurer claimed to have collected more than $77,000 from the company.

    The Sunday Times said its investigation had found that at least five Kabul-based Iranian companies were secretly passing funds to the Taliban.

    The newspaper's correspondent, Miles Amoore, said he met and interviewed the treasurer, who he said had been an illiterate farmer who was taught to read and write, plus basic accountancy, by the Taliban last winter.

    "We don’t care who we get money from," the treasurer was quoted as saying. He described the relationship with Iran as a "marriage of convenience." Iran is a predominantly Shiite country, while the Taliban is dominated by Sunni Muslims.
  • Duckwithabone
    Duckwithabone Member Posts: 272

    I’m just happy the US elected the VP of the administration that armed ISIS and gave billions to Iran so they could continue to fund terrorism.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/01/21/politics/john-kerry-money-iran-sanctions-terrorism/index.html

    John Kerry: Some sanctions relief money for Iran will go to terrorism
    By Elise Labott, CNN
    Updated 2:39 PM EST, Thu January 21, 2016

    Davos, Switzerland(CNN) Secretary of State John Kerry acknowledged to CNBC Thursday that some of the money Iran received in sanctions relief would go to groups considered terrorists.

    When asked about whether some the $150 billion in sanctions relief to Iran would go to terrorist groups, Kerry reiterated that, after settling debts, Iran would receive closer to $55 billion. He conceded some of that could go to groups considered terrorists, saying there was nothing the U.S. could do to prevent that.

    Ouch that’s a real bummer. Major piece of dirt you got there. We totally shouldn’t vote for any politician that’s made questionable policy decisions, especially when it comes to global fiscal decisions.
    Funding Iranian terrorism is now a “questionable policy decision” even after they paid the Taliban bounties for killing US troops. A fair media and Biden doesn’t it make it past the first few Democrat primaries.

    2010 bounties on US soldiers.

    2016 give billions to the same people who paid bounties and is “questionable.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna39014669

    Iran is paying Taliban fighters $1,000 for each U.S. soldier they kill in Afghanistan, according to a report in a British newspaper.

    The Sunday Times described how a man it said was a "Taliban treasurer" had gone to collect $18,000 from an Iranian firm in Kabul, a reward it said was for an attack in July which killed several Afghan government troops and destroyed an American armored vehicle.

    The treasurer left with the cash hidden in a sack of flour, the newspaper said, and then gave it to Taliban fighters in the province of Wardak. In the past six months, the treasurer claimed to have collected more than $77,000 from the company.

    The Sunday Times said its investigation had found that at least five Kabul-based Iranian companies were secretly passing funds to the Taliban.

    The newspaper's correspondent, Miles Amoore, said he met and interviewed the treasurer, who he said had been an illiterate farmer who was taught to read and write, plus basic accountancy, by the Taliban last winter.

    "We don’t care who we get money from," the treasurer was quoted as saying. He described the relationship with Iran as a "marriage of convenience." Iran is a predominantly Shiite country, while the Taliban is dominated by Sunni Muslims.
    Did I stutter?
  • Duckwithabone
    Duckwithabone Member Posts: 272

    I’m just happy the US elected the VP of the administration that armed ISIS and gave billions to Iran so they could continue to fund terrorism.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/01/21/politics/john-kerry-money-iran-sanctions-terrorism/index.html

    John Kerry: Some sanctions relief money for Iran will go to terrorism
    By Elise Labott, CNN
    Updated 2:39 PM EST, Thu January 21, 2016

    Davos, Switzerland(CNN) Secretary of State John Kerry acknowledged to CNBC Thursday that some of the money Iran received in sanctions relief would go to groups considered terrorists.

    When asked about whether some the $150 billion in sanctions relief to Iran would go to terrorist groups, Kerry reiterated that, after settling debts, Iran would receive closer to $55 billion. He conceded some of that could go to groups considered terrorists, saying there was nothing the U.S. could do to prevent that.

    Ouch that’s a real bummer. Major piece of dirt you got there. We totally shouldn’t vote for any politician that’s made questionable policy decisions, especially when it comes to global fiscal decisions.
    Funding Iranian terrorism is now a “questionable policy decision” even after they paid the Taliban bounties for killing US troops. A fair media and Biden doesn’t it make it past the first few Democrat primaries.

    2010 bounties on US soldiers.

    2016 give billions to the same people who paid bounties and is “questionable.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna39014669

    Iran is paying Taliban fighters $1,000 for each U.S. soldier they kill in Afghanistan, according to a report in a British newspaper.

    The Sunday Times described how a man it said was a "Taliban treasurer" had gone to collect $18,000 from an Iranian firm in Kabul, a reward it said was for an attack in July which killed several Afghan government troops and destroyed an American armored vehicle.

    The treasurer left with the cash hidden in a sack of flour, the newspaper said, and then gave it to Taliban fighters in the province of Wardak. In the past six months, the treasurer claimed to have collected more than $77,000 from the company.

    The Sunday Times said its investigation had found that at least five Kabul-based Iranian companies were secretly passing funds to the Taliban.

    The newspaper's correspondent, Miles Amoore, said he met and interviewed the treasurer, who he said had been an illiterate farmer who was taught to read and write, plus basic accountancy, by the Taliban last winter.

    "We don’t care who we get money from," the treasurer was quoted as saying. He described the relationship with Iran as a "marriage of convenience." Iran is a predominantly Shiite country, while the Taliban is dominated by Sunni Muslims.
    When you have an original thought that isn’t parroting oan and Twitter/Facebook trolls come back to the table.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    I’m just happy the US elected the VP of the administration that armed ISIS and gave billions to Iran so they could continue to fund terrorism.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/01/21/politics/john-kerry-money-iran-sanctions-terrorism/index.html

    John Kerry: Some sanctions relief money for Iran will go to terrorism
    By Elise Labott, CNN
    Updated 2:39 PM EST, Thu January 21, 2016

    Davos, Switzerland(CNN) Secretary of State John Kerry acknowledged to CNBC Thursday that some of the money Iran received in sanctions relief would go to groups considered terrorists.

    When asked about whether some the $150 billion in sanctions relief to Iran would go to terrorist groups, Kerry reiterated that, after settling debts, Iran would receive closer to $55 billion. He conceded some of that could go to groups considered terrorists, saying there was nothing the U.S. could do to prevent that.

    Ouch that’s a real bummer. Major piece of dirt you got there. We totally shouldn’t vote for any politician that’s made questionable policy decisions, especially when it comes to global fiscal decisions.
    Funding Iranian terrorism is now a “questionable policy decision” even after they paid the Taliban bounties for killing US troops. A fair media and Biden doesn’t it make it past the first few Democrat primaries.

    2010 bounties on US soldiers.

    2016 give billions to the same people who paid bounties and is “questionable.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna39014669

    Iran is paying Taliban fighters $1,000 for each U.S. soldier they kill in Afghanistan, according to a report in a British newspaper.

    The Sunday Times described how a man it said was a "Taliban treasurer" had gone to collect $18,000 from an Iranian firm in Kabul, a reward it said was for an attack in July which killed several Afghan government troops and destroyed an American armored vehicle.

    The treasurer left with the cash hidden in a sack of flour, the newspaper said, and then gave it to Taliban fighters in the province of Wardak. In the past six months, the treasurer claimed to have collected more than $77,000 from the company.

    The Sunday Times said its investigation had found that at least five Kabul-based Iranian companies were secretly passing funds to the Taliban.

    The newspaper's correspondent, Miles Amoore, said he met and interviewed the treasurer, who he said had been an illiterate farmer who was taught to read and write, plus basic accountancy, by the Taliban last winter.

    "We don’t care who we get money from," the treasurer was quoted as saying. He described the relationship with Iran as a "marriage of convenience." Iran is a predominantly Shiite country, while the Taliban is dominated by Sunni Muslims.
    When you have an original thought that isn’t parroting oan and Twitter/Facebook trolls come back to the table.
    Ironic.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,721 Founders Club
  • Duckwithabone
    Duckwithabone Member Posts: 272
    SFGbob said:

    I’m just happy the US elected the VP of the administration that armed ISIS and gave billions to Iran so they could continue to fund terrorism.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/01/21/politics/john-kerry-money-iran-sanctions-terrorism/index.html

    John Kerry: Some sanctions relief money for Iran will go to terrorism
    By Elise Labott, CNN
    Updated 2:39 PM EST, Thu January 21, 2016

    Davos, Switzerland(CNN) Secretary of State John Kerry acknowledged to CNBC Thursday that some of the money Iran received in sanctions relief would go to groups considered terrorists.

    When asked about whether some the $150 billion in sanctions relief to Iran would go to terrorist groups, Kerry reiterated that, after settling debts, Iran would receive closer to $55 billion. He conceded some of that could go to groups considered terrorists, saying there was nothing the U.S. could do to prevent that.

    Ouch that’s a real bummer. Major piece of dirt you got there. We totally shouldn’t vote for any politician that’s made questionable policy decisions, especially when it comes to global fiscal decisions.
    Funding Iranian terrorism is now a “questionable policy decision” even after they paid the Taliban bounties for killing US troops. A fair media and Biden doesn’t it make it past the first few Democrat primaries.

    2010 bounties on US soldiers.

    2016 give billions to the same people who paid bounties and is “questionable.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna39014669

    Iran is paying Taliban fighters $1,000 for each U.S. soldier they kill in Afghanistan, according to a report in a British newspaper.

    The Sunday Times described how a man it said was a "Taliban treasurer" had gone to collect $18,000 from an Iranian firm in Kabul, a reward it said was for an attack in July which killed several Afghan government troops and destroyed an American armored vehicle.

    The treasurer left with the cash hidden in a sack of flour, the newspaper said, and then gave it to Taliban fighters in the province of Wardak. In the past six months, the treasurer claimed to have collected more than $77,000 from the company.

    The Sunday Times said its investigation had found that at least five Kabul-based Iranian companies were secretly passing funds to the Taliban.

    The newspaper's correspondent, Miles Amoore, said he met and interviewed the treasurer, who he said had been an illiterate farmer who was taught to read and write, plus basic accountancy, by the Taliban last winter.

    "We don’t care who we get money from," the treasurer was quoted as saying. He described the relationship with Iran as a "marriage of convenience." Iran is a predominantly Shiite country, while the Taliban is dominated by Sunni Muslims.
    When you have an original thought that isn’t parroting oan and Twitter/Facebook trolls come back to the table.
    Ironic.
    The ironing is beyond thicc on this bored
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Guy has been back here for a little over a week and has yet to express a single original thought.

  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    This thread has gone horribly awry