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except for all the fascists.

People forget that the Nazis were center left. People forget that.

People forget that the Nazis were center left. People forget that.
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This should be the post of the year - the defining meme - for 2020.UW_Doog_Bot said:except for all the fascists.

People forget that the Nazis were center left. People forget that. -
"Center left" doesn't really fit at all. The Nazis promoted central government "collectivist" programs to stimulate the economy and put people to work, but so did basically every other national government, including the USA, that didn't want to completely collapse and lose all legitimacy.UW_Doog_Bot said:except for all the fascists.

People forget that the Nazis were center left. People forget that.
The Nazis were far right in their cultural politics especially the whole racism and anti-semitism thing. They were also very reactionary in terms of gender, sexuality, and in policing public behavior. That is not "center left."
You have to disentangle economic policies from other political factors. The distinctive features of Nazism was its intense right wing politics. -
Racism isn't a far right thing jr... the left is the party of the KKK with Robert KKK Byrd etc.
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How wrong you are. You are probably referring to the fact that southern whites were almost uniformly Democratic party voters back in the 19th and for much of the 20th century. But that was not a "left wing" party. The old Democrats valued local governance and feared the growth of the federal government and were generally opposed to public works projects, etc.. By contrast the Federalists, Whigs, and later the Republicans valued a stronger central government and generally held more enlightened attitudes toward the rights of human beings, aka stopping slavery.Goduckies said:Racism isn't a far right thing jr... the left is the party of the KKK with Robert KKK Byrd etc.
AKA using a strong federal government (btw, the US military is part of the federal government) to kick the ass of the South.
As soon as LBJ (a Democrat) enforced school desegregation in the South and enforced the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, Southern whites began to switch to the Republican party which was much more conservative about racial issues.
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It sure wasn't a right wing or conservative party
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And LBJ was one of the biggest racists of all
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Those were the super nazis. Adolf had to beat them before rising to power; a lot of people forget that.Goduckies said:It sure wasn't a right wing or conservative party
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It’s cute how you justify present day fascism with keyboard gymnastics by pigeon holing Nazis in a game of left, right, center. You should petition UW or whatever Banana Republic school you took history in for a refund.Kingdome_Urinals said:
"Center left" doesn't really fit at all. The Nazis promoted central government "collectivist" programs to stimulate the economy and put people to work, but so did basically every other national government, including the USA, that didn't want to completely collapse and lose all legitimacy.UW_Doog_Bot said:except for all the fascists.

People forget that the Nazis were center left. People forget that.
The Nazis were far right in their cultural politics especially the whole racism and anti-semitism thing. They were also very reactionary in terms of gender, sexuality, and in policing public behavior. That is not "center left."
You have to disentangle economic policies from other political factors. The distinctive features of Nazism was its intense right wing politics.
And save any pathetic attempt to show “receipts”. For they appear to only be redeemable for services received. -
Ahh the rewriting of history can be fun if you don't like your history.Kingdome_Urinals said:
How wrong you are. You are probably referring to the fact that southern whites were almost uniformly Democratic party voters back in the 19th and for much of the 20th century. But that was not a "left wing" party. The old Democrats valued local governance and feared the growth of the federal government and were generally opposed to public works projects, etc.. By contrast the Federalists, Whigs, and later the Republicans valued a stronger central government and generally held more enlightened attitudes toward the rights of human beings, aka stopping slavery.Goduckies said:Racism isn't a far right thing jr... the left is the party of the KKK with Robert KKK Byrd etc.
AKA using a strong federal government (btw, the US military is part of the federal government) to kick the ass of the South.
As soon as LBJ (a Democrat) enforced school desegregation in the South and enforced the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, Southern whites began to switch to the Republican party which was much more conservative about racial issues.
And here we are.
The Nazi leadership called themselves Socialists. I know, I know, its inconvenient for your attempt at historical revisionism.
The left stayed in the democratic party after LBJ and Civil Rights legislation. It wasn't until 30 years later, yes three entire decades, almost one third of a century, that the Republicans won the majority in Georgia, the heart of the South. Hardly a case of democrats rushing to jump ship now was it?
The Germans had a whole lot more similarities to Socialism and Communism than anything "far-right" as you call it. Does anyone even know what "far-right" means? To me it is simply a term the liberals use to scare their weak followers who can't think for themselves. The KKK? Is that what rats call "far-right". I think Robert Byrd and Teddy Kennedy, Al Gores father, Fritz Hollings and a whole bunch of other segregationists and KKK supporters on the left would disagree. None of those racists jumped over to the Republican party. Another inconvenient fact liberals like to ignore and make excuses for. Clinton and his racist mentor? Can anyone imagine what would happen to a Republican candidate for President who had a racist mentor like Clinton and BO did? Racism is alive and well in the rat party. They just want their weak minded followers to believe otherwise.
On the cover of Mein Kampf Hitler refers to his perspective as National Socialism. Another inconvenient fact liberals like to ignore. They try to explain it away because it isn't a liberals definition of socialism. As we know, socialism and communism has killed over 100,000,000 over the last century or so. The left has tried their hardest to adhere those atrocities to the mystical "far-right". I keep looking for that huge organization that is plotting to take over the country and the world and considers themselves "far-right". The problem is, all I see are far left fascists' who are attempting to murder, burn, loot, beat and destroy anything that gets in their political way. But hey, those "far-right" bad guys who seem to be invisible but ready to jump out at any moment, they are the ones to be afraid of. -
Wokeism is racist. From the left.Kingdome_Urinals said:
"Center left" doesn't really fit at all. The Nazis promoted central government "collectivist" programs to stimulate the economy and put people to work, but so did basically every other national government, including the USA, that didn't want to completely collapse and lose all legitimacy.UW_Doog_Bot said:except for all the fascists.

People forget that the Nazis were center left. People forget that.
The Nazis were far right in their cultural politics especially the whole racism and anti-semitism thing. They were also very reactionary in terms of gender, sexuality, and in policing public behavior. That is not "center left."
You have to disentangle economic policies from other political factors. The distinctive features of Nazism was its intense right wing politics.
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