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Republican Backlash Against Fox News Explodes

DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,245
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edited November 2020 in Tug Tavern
https://breitbart.com/the-media/2020/11/07/nolte-backlash-against-fox-news-explodes/

For the record, in regards to calling Arizona early, I do not feel that was fraudulent, even though it was the wrong thing to do. I think Fox was trying to get it right but simply fucked up. Republicans should not expect any network to carry water for them. Networks are supposed to cover the news.
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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,898
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    windfall for Newsmax (whatever that is) and OAN?
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    Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 7,958
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    I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.

    But that would require professional integrity.

    They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,948
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    I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.

    But that would require professional integrity.

    They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.

    I say that daily to the Dazzler.

    Same result.
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,341
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    I believe the AP called Arizona about the same time Fox did. Polls were closed anyway some what’s the big deal? They don’t stop counting the ballots.

    Irregardless, they were right. And so were the polls.



    306 EC + 4+ million in the popular vote.
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    SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,240
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    edited November 2020

    I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.

    But that would require professional integrity.

    They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.

    Cheers @Doog_de_Jour, solid poast as usual.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,044
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    Classy post Stalin. Agree.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,029
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    edited November 2020

    https://breitbart.com/the-media/2020/11/07/nolte-backlash-against-fox-news-explodes/

    For the record, in regards to calling Arizona early, I do not feel that was fraudulent, even though it was the wrong thing to do. I think Fox was trying to get it right but simply fucked up. Republicans should not expect any network to carry water for them. Networks are supposed to cover the news.

    None of them are fair and balanced. All lean left now. Most lie for the left.
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,341
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    I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.

    But that would require professional integrity.

    They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.

    One of the most retarded takes ever. They’re still counting as of today.
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,341
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    I believe the AP called Arizona about the same time Fox did. Polls were closed anyway some what’s the big deal? They don’t stop counting the ballots.

    Irregardless, they were right. And so were the pollsters.



    306 EC + 4+ million in the popular vote.

    Fixed
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    CaptainPJCaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986
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    https://breitbart.com/the-media/2020/11/07/nolte-backlash-against-fox-news-explodes/

    For the record, in regards to calling Arizona early, I do not feel that was fraudulent, even though it was the wrong thing to do. I think Fox was trying to get it right but simply fucked up. Republicans should not expect any network to carry water for them. Networks are supposed to cover the news.

    For the record, I am denying any false statement about falsehoods, I deny and are untrue!!
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    CaptainPJCaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986
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    edited November 2020
    No better tim than now. . . .

    OKAY!!!
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    Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 7,958
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    edited November 2020

    I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.

    But that would require professional integrity.

    They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.

    One of the most retarded takes ever. They’re still counting as of today.
    Fuck you @BennyBeaver, I’ve had far worse takes.



    Why pray tell, is *this* particular one such a shitty one? I realize news organizations have been trained by the public and their bosses’ hungry for ratings to be first rather than right, but don’t you think some restraint in reporting would better serve the voting process?

    Hell, even American Idol fans had to wait until the end of the night to find out who was going home that week.

    I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,341
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    I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.

    But that would require professional integrity.

    They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.

    One of the most retarded takes ever. They’re still counting as of today.
    Fuck you @BennyBeaver, I’ve had far worse takes.



    Why pray tell, is *this* particular one such a shitty one? I realize news organizations have been trained by the public and their bosses’ hungry for ratings to be first rather than right, but don’t you think some restraint in reporting would better serve the voting process?

    Hell, even American Idol fans had to wait until the end of the night to find out who was going home that week.

    I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
    What’s the difference between voting and counting votes?

    I’ll take your answer off the air.
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    Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 7,958
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    I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.

    But that would require professional integrity.

    They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.

    One of the most retarded takes ever. They’re still counting as of today.
    Fuck you @BennyBeaver, I’ve had far worse takes.



    Why pray tell, is *this* particular one such a shitty one? I realize news organizations have been trained by the public and their bosses’ hungry for ratings to be first rather than right, but don’t you think some restraint in reporting would better serve the voting process?

    Hell, even American Idol fans had to wait until the end of the night to find out who was going home that week.

    I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
    What’s the difference between voting and counting votes?

    I’ll take your answer off the air.
    Not 100% what you mean, but the exit polling, projections, etc. on the election night is very harmful, even with early/absentee voting.

    Just because people have voted doesn’t mean it has been counted. Many smaller jurisdictions take longer due to limited resources. Signatures need to be validated. These things take time and I would much rather have a delay of the results and get everything certified before we declare a winner.

    That’s all I’m saying.
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,341
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    I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.

    But that would require professional integrity.

    They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.

    One of the most retarded takes ever. They’re still counting as of today.
    Fuck you @BennyBeaver, I’ve had far worse takes.



    Why pray tell, is *this* particular one such a shitty one? I realize news organizations have been trained by the public and their bosses’ hungry for ratings to be first rather than right, but don’t you think some restraint in reporting would better serve the voting process?

    Hell, even American Idol fans had to wait until the end of the night to find out who was going home that week.

    I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
    What’s the difference between voting and counting votes?

    I’ll take your answer off the air.
    Not 100% what you mean, but the exit polling, projections, etc. on the election night is very harmful, even with early/absentee voting.

    Just because people have voted doesn’t mean it has been counted. Many smaller jurisdictions take longer due to limited resources. Signatures need to be validated. These things take time and I would much rather have a delay of the results and get everything certified before we declare a winner.

    That’s all I’m saying.
    What media outlet called a race before polls closed this election?
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    Kingdome_UrinalsKingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,609
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    I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.

    But that would require professional integrity.

    They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.

    The thing is, and this will be tough for you "free market" conservatives out there to hear, the news media are for-profit businesses looking to make a buck while serving the obligatory public functions. If people want projections and vote counts, etc. the media will give it to them and in the process make money.

    Are you some anti-capitalist??

    The politicians themselves and the overwhelming amount of interested voters like states getting "called" except when its for the other guy. So suck it up.
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    Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 7,958
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    I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.

    But that would require professional integrity.

    They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.

    The thing is, and this will be tough for you "free market" conservatives out there to hear, the news media are for-profit businesses looking to make a buck while serving the obligatory public functions. If people want projections and vote counts, etc. the media will give it to them and in the process make money.

    Are you some anti-capitalist??

    The politicians themselves and the overwhelming amount of interested voters like states getting "called" except when its for the other guy. So suck it up.
    I’m not a conservative, nor am I anti-capitalist. I believe in freedom of the press too, so they are well within their rights to report as they wish. They are delivering a product that many in this country are hungry for, so I recognize they are not completely at fault.

    I also recognize what I’m asking for is completely unrealistic. Even if all the major networks made an agreement to hold off calling winners or making projections, there’s still social media and message boards like this one that will gladly fill the void.

    THAT BEING SAID...

    The press has protections provided to them in the Constitution and with those, in my mind, come responsibilities. Journalism is a vital part of protecting democracy and the integrity of information, so they should be held to a higher standard.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.

    But that would require professional integrity.

    They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.

    One of the most retarded takes ever. They’re still counting as of today.
    Fuck you @BennyBeaver, I’ve had far worse takes.



    Why pray tell, is *this* particular one such a shitty one? I realize news organizations have been trained by the public and their bosses’ hungry for ratings to be first rather than right, but don’t you think some restraint in reporting would better serve the voting process?

    Hell, even American Idol fans had to wait until the end of the night to find out who was going home that week.

    I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
    What’s the difference between voting and counting votes?

    I’ll take your answer off the air.
    Not 100% what you mean, but the exit polling, projections, etc. on the election night is very harmful, even with early/absentee voting.

    Just because people have voted doesn’t mean it has been counted. Many smaller jurisdictions take longer due to limited resources. Signatures need to be validated. These things take time and I would much rather have a delay of the results and get everything certified before we declare a winner.

    That’s all I’m saying.
    What media outlet called a race before polls closed this election?
    Technically all of them, since the elections haven’t all been certified. And we still technically have the electoral college, but I know that’s *mostly* an antiquated formality.

    I guess what I’m getting at is I don’t want elections decided by statistical projections, “pre-season” polling, and any “might as well not even play the game” mentality. LIPO, give the process time to work.


    It shouldn't be that hard to get elections counted and decided on the evening of the vote ... particularly given the technology that we have in place. This shouldn't be a huge issue at this point.
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