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Republican Backlash Against Fox News Explodes
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You would think, but governments aren’t exactly known for using cutting edge technology like the private sector. This year I kept reading story after story about how outdated the computer systems were at unemployment agencies resulting in fraud and delayed benefit checks.Tequilla said:
It shouldn't be that hard to get elections counted and decided on the evening of the vote ... particularly given the technology that we have in place. This shouldn't be a huge issue at this point.Doog_de_Jour said:
Technically all of them, since the elections haven’t all been certified. And we still technically have the electoral college, but I know that’s *mostly* an antiquated formality.BennyBeaver said:
What media outlet called a race before polls closed this election?Doog_de_Jour said:
Not 100% what you mean, but the exit polling, projections, etc. on the election night is very harmful, even with early/absentee voting.BennyBeaver said:
What’s the difference between voting and counting votes?Doog_de_Jour said:
Fuck you @BennyBeaver, I’ve had far worse takes.BennyBeaver said:
One of the most retarded takes ever. They’re still counting as of today.Doog_de_Jour said:I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.
But that would require professional integrity.
They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.
Why pray tell, is *this* particular one such a shitty one? I realize news organizations have been trained by the public and their bosses’ hungry for ratings to be first rather than right, but don’t you think some restraint in reporting would better serve the voting process?
Hell, even American Idol fans had to wait until the end of the night to find out who was going home that week.
I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
I’ll take your answer off the air.
Just because people have voted doesn’t mean it has been counted. Many smaller jurisdictions take longer due to limited resources. Signatures need to be validated. These things take time and I would much rather have a delay of the results and get everything certified before we declare a winner.
That’s all I’m saying.
I guess what I’m getting at is I don’t want elections decided by statistical projections, “pre-season” polling, and any “might as well not even play the game” mentality. LIPO, give the process time to work.
Yet another part of our infrastructure that needs updating. -
It shouldn't be - unless the people in charge of designing or adhering to the system don't want it to be agnostic with regards to the result. See also AAU scorekeepers - you ALWAYS take your own scorekeeper to Yakima.Tequilla said:
It shouldn't be that hard to get elections counted and decided on the evening of the vote ... particularly given the technology that we have in place. This shouldn't be a huge issue at this point.Doog_de_Jour said:
Technically all of them, since the elections haven’t all been certified. And we still technically have the electoral college, but I know that’s *mostly* an antiquated formality.BennyBeaver said:
What media outlet called a race before polls closed this election?Doog_de_Jour said:
Not 100% what you mean, but the exit polling, projections, etc. on the election night is very harmful, even with early/absentee voting.BennyBeaver said:
What’s the difference between voting and counting votes?Doog_de_Jour said:
Fuck you @BennyBeaver, I’ve had far worse takes.BennyBeaver said:
One of the most retarded takes ever. They’re still counting as of today.Doog_de_Jour said:I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.
But that would require professional integrity.
They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.
Why pray tell, is *this* particular one such a shitty one? I realize news organizations have been trained by the public and their bosses’ hungry for ratings to be first rather than right, but don’t you think some restraint in reporting would better serve the voting process?
Hell, even American Idol fans had to wait until the end of the night to find out who was going home that week.
I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
I’ll take your answer off the air.
Just because people have voted doesn’t mean it has been counted. Many smaller jurisdictions take longer due to limited resources. Signatures need to be validated. These things take time and I would much rather have a delay of the results and get everything certified before we declare a winner.
That’s all I’m saying.
I guess what I’m getting at is I don’t want elections decided by statistical projections, “pre-season” polling, and any “might as well not even play the game” mentality. LIPO, give the process time to work.
Or alternatively, collusion exists within those who can override the system to behave as designed.
This is basic internal control stuff. Protocols and procedures can be implemented - but if the people to whom they are supposed to keep honest want to circumvent the controls, bad shit happens.
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What is "retarded" is actually claiming that the polls were right.BennyBeaver said:
One of the most retarded takes ever. They’re still counting as of today.Doog_de_Jour said:I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.
But that would require professional integrity.
They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them. -
Careful.PurpleThrobber said:
It shouldn't be - unless the people in charge of designing or adhering to the system don't want it to be agnostic with regards to the result. See also AAU scorekeepers - you ALWAYS take your own scorekeeper to Yakima.Tequilla said:
It shouldn't be that hard to get elections counted and decided on the evening of the vote ... particularly given the technology that we have in place. This shouldn't be a huge issue at this point.Doog_de_Jour said:
Technically all of them, since the elections haven’t all been certified. And we still technically have the electoral college, but I know that’s *mostly* an antiquated formality.BennyBeaver said:
What media outlet called a race before polls closed this election?Doog_de_Jour said:
Not 100% what you mean, but the exit polling, projections, etc. on the election night is very harmful, even with early/absentee voting.BennyBeaver said:
What’s the difference between voting and counting votes?Doog_de_Jour said:
Fuck you @BennyBeaver, I’ve had far worse takes.BennyBeaver said:
One of the most retarded takes ever. They’re still counting as of today.Doog_de_Jour said:I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.
But that would require professional integrity.
They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.
Why pray tell, is *this* particular one such a shitty one? I realize news organizations have been trained by the public and their bosses’ hungry for ratings to be first rather than right, but don’t you think some restraint in reporting would better serve the voting process?
Hell, even American Idol fans had to wait until the end of the night to find out who was going home that week.
I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
I’ll take your answer off the air.
Just because people have voted doesn’t mean it has been counted. Many smaller jurisdictions take longer due to limited resources. Signatures need to be validated. These things take time and I would much rather have a delay of the results and get everything certified before we declare a winner.
That’s all I’m saying.
I guess what I’m getting at is I don’t want elections decided by statistical projections, “pre-season” polling, and any “might as well not even play the game” mentality. LIPO, give the process time to work.
Or alternatively, collusion exists within those who can override the system to behave as designed.
This is basic internal control stuff. Protocols and procedures can be implemented - but if the people to whom they are supposed to keep honest want to circumvent the controls, bad shit happens. -
Don't even get me started on Zillah and Sunnyside.Doog_de_Jour said:
Careful.PurpleThrobber said:
It shouldn't be - unless the people in charge of designing or adhering to the system don't want it to be agnostic with regards to the result. See also AAU scorekeepers - you ALWAYS take your own scorekeeper to Yakima.Tequilla said:
It shouldn't be that hard to get elections counted and decided on the evening of the vote ... particularly given the technology that we have in place. This shouldn't be a huge issue at this point.Doog_de_Jour said:
Technically all of them, since the elections haven’t all been certified. And we still technically have the electoral college, but I know that’s *mostly* an antiquated formality.BennyBeaver said:
What media outlet called a race before polls closed this election?Doog_de_Jour said:
Not 100% what you mean, but the exit polling, projections, etc. on the election night is very harmful, even with early/absentee voting.BennyBeaver said:
What’s the difference between voting and counting votes?Doog_de_Jour said:
Fuck you @BennyBeaver, I’ve had far worse takes.BennyBeaver said:
One of the most retarded takes ever. They’re still counting as of today.Doog_de_Jour said:I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.
But that would require professional integrity.
They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.
Why pray tell, is *this* particular one such a shitty one? I realize news organizations have been trained by the public and their bosses’ hungry for ratings to be first rather than right, but don’t you think some restraint in reporting would better serve the voting process?
Hell, even American Idol fans had to wait until the end of the night to find out who was going home that week.
I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
I’ll take your answer off the air.
Just because people have voted doesn’t mean it has been counted. Many smaller jurisdictions take longer due to limited resources. Signatures need to be validated. These things take time and I would much rather have a delay of the results and get everything certified before we declare a winner.
That’s all I’m saying.
I guess what I’m getting at is I don’t want elections decided by statistical projections, “pre-season” polling, and any “might as well not even play the game” mentality. LIPO, give the process time to work.
Or alternatively, collusion exists within those who can override the system to behave as designed.
This is basic internal control stuff. Protocols and procedures can be implemented - but if the people to whom they are supposed to keep honest want to circumvent the controls, bad shit happens.
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I think we should just go back to feudalism. We gave democracy a fair chance, but there's just too many problems.
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I nominate myself as King. King Swaye, Lord of the Dipshits. Long live the King!Fenderbender123 said:I think we should just go back to feudalism. We gave democracy a fair chance, but there's just too many problems.
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Wait, you mean my Brother-in-law’s lucrative Maintenance contract just goes poof? No warning, just gone?Doog_de_Jour said:
You would think, but governments aren’t exactly known for using cutting edge technology like the private sector. This year I kept reading story after story about how outdated the computer systems were at unemployment agencies resulting in fraud and delayed benefit checks.Tequilla said:
It shouldn't be that hard to get elections counted and decided on the evening of the vote ... particularly given the technology that we have in place. This shouldn't be a huge issue at this point.Doog_de_Jour said:
Technically all of them, since the elections haven’t all been certified. And we still technically have the electoral college, but I know that’s *mostly* an antiquated formality.BennyBeaver said:
What media outlet called a race before polls closed this election?Doog_de_Jour said:
Not 100% what you mean, but the exit polling, projections, etc. on the election night is very harmful, even with early/absentee voting.BennyBeaver said:
What’s the difference between voting and counting votes?Doog_de_Jour said:
Fuck you @BennyBeaver, I’ve had far worse takes.BennyBeaver said:
One of the most retarded takes ever. They’re still counting as of today.Doog_de_Jour said:I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.
But that would require professional integrity.
They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.
Why pray tell, is *this* particular one such a shitty one? I realize news organizations have been trained by the public and their bosses’ hungry for ratings to be first rather than right, but don’t you think some restraint in reporting would better serve the voting process?
Hell, even American Idol fans had to wait until the end of the night to find out who was going home that week.
I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
I’ll take your answer off the air.
Just because people have voted doesn’t mean it has been counted. Many smaller jurisdictions take longer due to limited resources. Signatures need to be validated. These things take time and I would much rather have a delay of the results and get everything certified before we declare a winner.
That’s all I’m saying.
I guess what I’m getting at is I don’t want elections decided by statistical projections, “pre-season” polling, and any “might as well not even play the game” mentality. LIPO, give the process time to work.
Yet another part of our infrastructure that needs updating. -
So everyone has voted, polls are closed. And Fox News projects a winner before all the ballots are certified. This is your scenario, no?Doog_de_Jour said:
Technically all of them, since the elections haven’t all been certified. And we still technically have the electoral college, but I know that’s *mostly* an antiquated formality.BennyBeaver said:
What media outlet called a race before polls closed this election?Doog_de_Jour said:
Not 100% what you mean, but the exit polling, projections, etc. on the election night is very harmful, even with early/absentee voting.BennyBeaver said:
What’s the difference between voting and counting votes?Doog_de_Jour said:
Fuck you @BennyBeaver, I’ve had far worse takes.BennyBeaver said:
One of the most retarded takes ever. They’re still counting as of today.Doog_de_Jour said:I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.
But that would require professional integrity.
They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.
Why pray tell, is *this* particular one such a shitty one? I realize news organizations have been trained by the public and their bosses’ hungry for ratings to be first rather than right, but don’t you think some restraint in reporting would better serve the voting process?
Hell, even American Idol fans had to wait until the end of the night to find out who was going home that week.
I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
I’ll take your answer off the air.
Just because people have voted doesn’t mean it has been counted. Many smaller jurisdictions take longer due to limited resources. Signatures need to be validated. These things take time and I would much rather have a delay of the results and get everything certified before we declare a winner.
That’s all I’m saying.
I guess what I’m getting at is I don’t want elections decided by statistical projections, “pre-season” polling, and any “might as well not even play the game” mentality. LIPO, give the process time to work.
How does this change the outcome? -
I think either approach is fine, though I certainly prefer quicker results over longer. Maybe I'm just impatient.Doog_de_Jour said:
Fuck you @BennyBeaver, I’ve had far worse takes.BennyBeaver said:
One of the most retarded takes ever. They’re still counting as of today.Doog_de_Jour said:I said multiple tims before the election that the press needs to STFU on Election Day and make no projections/calls until every last fucking ballot is counted.
But that would require professional integrity.
They clearly didn’t learn their lesson from 2000. Fuck them.
Why pray tell, is *this* particular one such a shitty one? I realize news organizations have been trained by the public and their bosses’ hungry for ratings to be first rather than right, but don’t you think some restraint in reporting would better serve the voting process?
Hell, even American Idol fans had to wait until the end of the night to find out who was going home that week.
I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
Some states can take up to a month to finish counting their votes, so I don't like the idea of waiting for them to formally finish before calling the race when the writing has already been on the wall. Especially with the level of analytics and county-by-county data that is available, there's no reason to delay calling a race when the results are (or nearly) statistically certain.
That said, I think you can still criticize the AP and Fox for calling AZ as soon as they did. The data nerds were in agreement that while AZ was likely to stay dem, it was still way too early in the process given the makeup of the remaining votes left to be counted and there was still a very real possibility for Trump to take the state.
