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RaceBannon
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From @iDawg

My prediction: Biden recovers, Nate Silver doesn't.


Don't think Joe is recovering quite honestly
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  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club
    DerekJohnson said:

    What the fuck is an @iDawg?

    And what the fuck is his new handle? Apparently phdfag is Passion
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Media will continue to use polling to drive narrative. Cook it
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  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    doogie said:

    Media will continue to use polling to drive narrative. Cook it

    2024: They learned from massive failures in 2016 and 2020 and REALLY have it correct this election. Harris leads by 17% in Wisconsin.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,276 Founders Club
    Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

    So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,772 Standard Supporter
    doogie said:

    Media will continue to use polling to drive narrative. Cook it

    I called the polls being skewed was to cover the cheating. Some time ago.
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  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited November 2020
    YellowSnow said:

    Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

    So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

    My opinion only.

    Polls were believed in 2016 and they thought it was a Clinton landslide until votes started coming in on Election Day. I mean, they spied on Trump and colluded with foreign sources to impact the election quite brazenly. They were caught flat-footed and started the Trump-Putin narrative that night to discredit the win. They went on the offense immediately to cover up heir spying and electioneering.

    2020: They knew the polls were garbage, but needed them to make a Trump win seem impossible and illegitimate. Fraud machine was ready to go for late counts in every swing-state urban center. Knowing how many votes you need for late counts and there you go. The Dems couldn’t have Trump win on the off chance Barr indicted any of the Obama DOJ, or actually fully investigated Biden’s time as VP and afterward as found on Hunter’s laptop.

    As Joe said himself on his voter fraud organization...

    https://youtu.be/MA8a2g6tTp0
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,276 Founders Club
    NorthwestFresh said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

    So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

    My opinion only.

    Polls were believed in 2016 and they thought it was a Clinton landslide until votes started coming in on Election Day. I mean, they spied on Trump and colluded with foreign sources to impact the election quite brazenly. They were caught flat-footed and started the Trump-Putin narrative that night to discredit the win. They went on the offense immediately to cover up heir spying and electioneering.

    2020: They knew the polls were garbage, but needed them to make a Trump win seem impossible and illegitimate. Fraud machine was ready to go for late counts in every swing-state urban center. Knowing how many votes you need for late counts and there you go. The Dems couldn’t have Trump win on the off chance Barr indicted any of the Obama DOJ, or actually fully investigated Biden’s time as VP and afterward as found on Hunter’s laptop.

    As Joe said himself on his voter fraud organization...

    https://youtu.be/MA8a2g6tTp0
    I've long doubted whether even Trump though he'd win in 2016.
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    YellowSnow said:

    Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

    So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

    I don't want to hear Trump bitch one bit about polling or press coverage. If that and that alone was the reason for losing, then there was no point in even running because everyone knew what that was going to be.
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  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,678 Founders Club
    Think there is a large degree of lemming mentality in polls. Guarantee there are a lot of pollsters that probably actually at some point along the way came up with something actually accurate, then looked at what others were reporting and reigned in their math to follow the pack closer creating a circular function over time.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,419 Founders Club
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

    So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

    I don't want to hear Trump bitch one bit about polling or press coverage. If that and that alone was the reason for losing, then there was no point in even running because everyone knew what that was going to be.
    Well yes I hear you, but it's easy for you to say when the entire system isn't attacking you on a daily basis.
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  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,966 Standard Supporter
    YellowSnow said:

    Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

    So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

    They didn't have vote by mail
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  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    doogie said:

    Media Tugtards will continue to use polling to drive narrative. Cook it

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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    DerekJohnson said:

    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

    So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

    I don't want to hear Trump bitch one bit about polling or press coverage. If that and that alone was the reason for losing, then there was no point in even running because everyone knew what that was going to be.
    Well yes I hear you, but it's easy for you to say when the entire system isn't attacking you on a daily basis.
    It's the big chair and part of the job, that he sought. I don't care who is in the office, I really don't care about their feelings that much.

    Much of the coverage was terrible, and the media ought to be cleaning their shit up in the next few years (they won't).
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    DerekJohnson said:

    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

    So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

    I don't want to hear Trump bitch one bit about polling or press coverage. If that and that alone was the reason for losing, then there was no point in even running because everyone knew what that was going to be.
    Well yes I hear you, but it's easy for you to say when the entire system isn't attacking you on a daily basis.
    The press coverage Trump routinely received and the tongue bath Biden received after he secured the nomination was easily worth about 5 points. Then add in the nightly in-kind contribution Biden and the Rats received from the entertainment media and you've got another 2 to 3 points. Honest reporting on the Charlottesville lie could have hammered the entire reason Joe claimed he got into the race.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,892 Founders Club
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

    So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

    I don't want to hear Trump bitch one bit about polling or press coverage. If that and that alone was the reason for losing, then there was no point in even running because everyone knew what that was going to be.
    The things we tell ourselves
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,892 Founders Club
    We don't need honest elections or a watchdog media that watches everyone because Trump bothers me

    Basically how a 12 year old girl would vote
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    RaceBannon said:

    We don't need honest elections or a watchdog media that watches everyone because Trump bothers me

    Basically how a 12 year old girl would vote

    We do need both.
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