Nate Silver update

RaceBannon

From @iDawg

My prediction: Biden recovers, Nate Silver doesn't.


Don't think Joe is recovering quite honestly

DerekJohnson

What the fuck is an @iDawg?

RoadTrip

DerekJohnson said:

What the fuck is an @iDawg?

And what the fuck is his new handle? Apparently phdfag is Passion

YellowSnow

Irregardless of Biden's EC victory, Race plungered Nate and it wasn't even close. Polling is officially FUBAR in this country and you won't have @YellowSnow to kick around anymore on the issue.

doogie

Media will continue to use polling to drive narrative. Cook it

NorthwestFresh

doogie said:

Media will continue to use polling to drive narrative. Cook it

2024: They learned from massive failures in 2016 and 2020 and REALLY have it correct this election. Harris leads by 17% in Wisconsin.

YellowSnow

Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

Sledog

doogie said:

Media will continue to use polling to drive narrative. Cook it

I called the polls being skewed was to cover the cheating. Some time ago.

NorthwestFresh

YellowSnow said:

Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

My opinion only.

Polls were believed in 2016 and they thought it was a Clinton landslide until votes started coming in on Election Day. I mean, they spied on Trump and colluded with foreign sources to impact the election quite brazenly. They were caught flat-footed and started the Trump-Putin narrative that night to discredit the win. They went on the offense immediately to cover up heir spying and electioneering.

2020: They knew the polls were garbage, but needed them to make a Trump win seem impossible and illegitimate. Fraud machine was ready to go for late counts in every swing-state urban center. Knowing how many votes you need for late counts and there you go. The Dems couldn’t have Trump win on the off chance Barr indicted any of the Obama DOJ, or actually fully investigated Biden’s time as VP and afterward as found on Hunter’s laptop.

As Joe said himself on his voter fraud organization...

https://youtu.be/MA8a2g6tTp0

YellowSnow

NorthwestFresh said:

YellowSnow said:

Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

My opinion only.

Polls were believed in 2016 and they thought it was a Clinton landslide until votes started coming in on Election Day. I mean, they spied on Trump and colluded with foreign sources to impact the election quite brazenly. They were caught flat-footed and started the Trump-Putin narrative that night to discredit the win. They went on the offense immediately to cover up heir spying and electioneering.

2020: They knew the polls were garbage, but needed them to make a Trump win seem impossible and illegitimate. Fraud machine was ready to go for late counts in every swing-state urban center. Knowing how many votes you need for late counts and there you go. The Dems couldn’t have Trump win on the off chance Barr indicted any of the Obama DOJ, or actually fully investigated Biden’s time as VP and afterward as found on Hunter’s laptop.

As Joe said himself on his voter fraud organization...

https://youtu.be/MA8a2g6tTp0

I've long doubted whether even Trump though he'd win in 2016.

GrundleStiltzkin

YellowSnow said:

Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

I don't want to hear Trump bitch one bit about polling or press coverage. If that and that alone was the reason for losing, then there was no point in even running because everyone knew what that was going to be.

Bob_C

Think there is a large degree of lemming mentality in polls. Guarantee there are a lot of pollsters that probably actually at some point along the way came up with something actually accurate, then looked at what others were reporting and reigned in their math to follow the pack closer creating a circular function over time.

DerekJohnson

GrundleStiltzkin said:

YellowSnow said:

Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

I don't want to hear Trump bitch one bit about polling or press coverage. If that and that alone was the reason for losing, then there was no point in even running because everyone knew what that was going to be.

Well yes I hear you, but it's easy for you to say when the entire system isn't attacking you on a daily basis.

Goduckies

YellowSnow said:

Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

They didn't have vote by mail

BennyBeaver

doogie said:

Media Tugtards will continue to use polling to drive narrative. Cook it

GrundleStiltzkin

DerekJohnson said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

YellowSnow said:

Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

I don't want to hear Trump bitch one bit about polling or press coverage. If that and that alone was the reason for losing, then there was no point in even running because everyone knew what that was going to be.

Well yes I hear you, but it's easy for you to say when the entire system isn't attacking you on a daily basis.

It's the big chair and part of the job, that he sought. I don't care who is in the office, I really don't care about their feelings that much.

Much of the coverage was terrible, and the media ought to be cleaning their shit up in the next few years (they won't).

SFGbob

DerekJohnson said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

YellowSnow said:

Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

I don't want to hear Trump bitch one bit about polling or press coverage. If that and that alone was the reason for losing, then there was no point in even running because everyone knew what that was going to be.

Well yes I hear you, but it's easy for you to say when the entire system isn't attacking you on a daily basis.

The press coverage Trump routinely received and the tongue bath Biden received after he secured the nomination was easily worth about 5 points. Then add in the nightly in-kind contribution Biden and the Rats received from the entertainment media and you've got another 2 to 3 points. Honest reporting on the Charlottesville lie could have hammered the entire reason Joe claimed he got into the race.

RaceBannon

GrundleStiltzkin said:

YellowSnow said:

Bad Orange Man claimed yesterday that the media used polling as a means to suppress his voters (i.e., dampen their enthusiasm) as well hurt his fundraising. He implied that they knew polling was bullshit and the he (Trump) had a great shot of winning the key swing states. Hence, the narrative about voter fraud on a massive scale because they feared he would actually win.

So does Trump think that the 2016 bogus polling was meant to hurt his support in that election? And if the "corrupt" media and Dems knew the 2016 polls were bullshit and it was, in fact, a much tighter race, why didn't they try harder to "steal" the race for HRC?

I don't want to hear Trump bitch one bit about polling or press coverage. If that and that alone was the reason for losing, then there was no point in even running because everyone knew what that was going to be.

The things we tell ourselves

RaceBannon

We don't need honest elections or a watchdog media that watches everyone because Trump bothers me

Basically how a 12 year old girl would vote

GrundleStiltzkin

RaceBannon said:

We don't need honest elections or a watchdog media that watches everyone because Trump bothers me

Basically how a 12 year old girl would vote

We do need both.