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I don't get it. If the rotation gets healthy (Paxton, maybe even walker) they are what they are, about a .500 team.
I really wish ownership would pony up the dollars to get morales, cause I think the team would have potential with a second bat, but they'd rather just pocket the money instead. FYFMFE -
Why spend 24 million on Cano then do nothing else? Cano has been great btw. He's second in the AL in batting average and has been on fire as of late. You have two Cy Young contenders in Iwakuma and Felix which most teams would kill to have one of and you have two of them.dhdawg said:I don't get it. If the rotation gets healthy (Paxton, maybe even walker) they are what they are, about a .500 team.
I really wish ownership would pony up the dollars to get morales, cause I think the team would have potential with a second bat, but they'd rather just pocket the money instead. FYFMFE
Hart who has always been injury prone is again out. Time to stop fucking around and sign Morales already to be your DH. Also time to stop babying Brad Miller and send his ass to triple A already! -
the first part I buy 100%, they need to sign morales before the draft, because once that attached pick is gone there is gonna be a ton of interest (yankees, angels, etc.)
the second part I don't agree with, should miller go down? yes. But who plays SS, franklin is shit defensively, bloomquist is 40. If taylor wasn't hurt I'd go with him but he's on the shelf for a while. I just see a lack of options at SS -
So you're saying we need a DH, dawg?
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yes that is what I'm saying. In case you're wondering the name actually came from getting called a dickhead by some doogs because I didn't "appreciate Sark"
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All this time I thought you were a designated hitter.
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Yea I totally didn't see DH standing for DickHead and totally thought it was a baseball reference.GulagDawg said:All this time I thought you were a designated hitter.
What kind of moron would think DH is a baseball term especially in the same town that has the DH of the year award named after Edgar Martinez. What a fool we all must be. -
Went to look up Brad Miller's WAR and saw the entire roster has a negative 0.9 WAR defensively. Love how Jack Z came here and preached good defense, then totally ditched that plan with like 5 1b.
Smoak is a negative 0.4 defensively by himself which is impressive for a first baseman. Even Cano who is hitting well is a negative 0.3 defensively. -
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=0&type=1&season=2014&month=0&season1=2014&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0
According to uzr and def seattle is in the top 10 defensively. According to both statistics seattle was the worst defense in baseball last year -
so from what I've seen and those statistics show, defense isn't the problem. It's really just the offense, which can be masked if the pitching is really stellar, however it needs to be in the top 20 at least, and while signing morales probably wouldn't get them in the top 20 by seasons end, it would be a start. They won't do it though
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Designated hitters are usually dickheads that only play because they use PEDs (see Edgar as a prime example).
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Flagged because Edgar was a good hitter before the PED's made him borderline HOF caliber.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Designated hitters are usually dickheads that only play because they use PEDs (see Edgar as a prime example).
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Upvoted because you realize Edgar juiced but not awesome'd because he was most similar to Corey Koskie in his one really good year prior to the doping:dnc said:
Flagged because Edgar was a good hitter before the PED's made him borderline HOF caliber.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Designated hitters are usually dickheads that only play because they use PEDs (see Edgar as a prime example).
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OBP by age, pre Koskie sim scores:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Upvoted because you realize Edgar juiced but not awesome'd because he was most similar to Corey Koskie in his one really good year prior to the doping:dnc said:
Flagged because Edgar was a good hitter before the PED's made him borderline HOF caliber.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Designated hitters are usually dickheads that only play because they use PEDs (see Edgar as a prime example).
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/martied01.shtml
24*: 413
25*: .351
26**: .314
27: .397
28: .405
Pre enhanced Edgar was a beast at the most important hitting stat that there is. Fuck the Mariners for thinking Jim Presley was a better option than he was for most of those age 24-26 years.
By BR WAR Edgar was a 5.5 win player at 27 and 6 win at 28.
Dude could flat out rake on his own, the juice just allowed him to go from the ideal 2 hole hitter to a monster in the middle of the order.
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Edgar could always hit the ball well and get on base. The juice turned him (and many others) from singles hitters to power hitters.dnc said:
OBP by age, pre Koskie sim scores:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Upvoted because you realize Edgar juiced but not awesome'd because he was most similar to Corey Koskie in his one really good year prior to the doping:dnc said:
Flagged because Edgar was a good hitter before the PED's made him borderline HOF caliber.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Designated hitters are usually dickheads that only play because they use PEDs (see Edgar as a prime example).
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/martied01.shtml
24*: 413
25*: .351
26**: .314
27: .397
28: .405
Pre enhanced Edgar was a beast at the most important hitting stat that there is. Fuck the Mariners for thinking Jim Presley was a better option than he was for most of those age 24-26 years.
By BR WAR Edgar was a 5.5 win player at 27 and 6 win at 28.
Dude could flat out rake on his own, the juice just allowed him to go from the ideal 2 hole hitter to a monster in the middle of the order.
*SSS
**Relatively SSS
The lesson as always: Fuck Bud Selig with a rusty conical cheese grater.
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Edgar did it the natural way like Alistair Overeem.... "I eat horse meat and have a lot of sex"
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You could be SoftyFS and EliseFS and say that Cano has been "good but not great". They are bitching about his RBIs... last time I checked you needed good hitters in front of him to get RBIs.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Why spend 24 million on Cano then do nothing else? Cano has been great btw. He's second in the AL in batting average and has been on fire as of late. You have two Cy Young contenders in Iwakuma and Felix which most teams would kill to have one of and you have two of them.dhdawg said:I don't get it. If the rotation gets healthy (Paxton, maybe even walker) they are what they are, about a .500 team.
I really wish ownership would pony up the dollars to get morales, cause I think the team would have potential with a second bat, but they'd rather just pocket the money instead. FYFMFE
Hart who has always been injury prone is again out. Time to stop fucking around and sign Morales already to be your DH. Also time to stop babying Brad Miller and send his ass to triple A already! -
Did u see moore's article that he's disappointed in cano due to his lack of homers.
He's hitting .326 as a 2B, and it isn't like he isn't getting XBH he's on pace for 40 doubles. I'll pay 24 million for that any day -
Yup, fucking moron. This whole bashing Cano thing for not hitting 50 HRs in a season is really making me consider turning into a spree killer.dhdawg said:Did u see moore's article that he's disappointed in cano due to his lack of homers.
He's hitting .326 as a 2B, and it isn't like he isn't getting XBH he's on pace for 40 doubles. I'll pay 24 million for that any day
Instead of bashing the other 7-8 shitty batters the Mariners have in their lineup night in night out, I like to bash the guy nearly hitting .330 and a lot of extra base hits... I do that. -
First of all if we are going to start bashing on the only excited era in baseball(steroids era) then I'm out!
So in SoftyFS and EliseFS world going 34-29 is fine but hitting .326 isnt?
The baseball fucktards always out themselves when they up bring up shit like RBI's. -
justin smoak has as many RBI as cano does.
Smoak is hitting .222 w/risp, cano is hitting .286. Smoak is hitting in the .240's with men on base, cano is above .300
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the difference is smoak has had 45 PA's W/RISP and 78 with men on compared to Cano only having 35 PA's W/RISP and 64 with men on. It's a product of where you hit in the lineup
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ooh and don't forgot pitcher win loss record. "You play to win the game"He_Needs_More_Time said:First of all if we are going to start bashing on the only excited era in baseball(steroids era) then I'm out!
So in SoftyFS and EliseFS world going 34-29 is fine but hitting .326 isnt?
The baseball fucktards always out themselves when they up bring up shit like RBI's.
And then they bash statistics like war, and UZR, and wRC+ when they're the statistics that actually judge the individual performance of a player -
Also how can Cano have RBI's when Almonte and Miller were hitting in front of him for the first month?
I dare someone to find a dumber media than Seattle media. How did we end up with all these fucktards?
CHRIST! -
it's like bashing felix cause his win loss record sucked in 2010, hard to get RBI with no one on base
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RE: Edgar Martinez
I don't give a fuck that he was on roids, I could watch him hit for days. This franchise hasn't had a RH bat like him since his retirement.
Could hit gap to gap, worked counts , was very clutch, had decent HR power, great doubles power. Boone, Edgar, Olerud was fun to watch. -
Only with roids.He_Needs_More_Time said:RE: Edgar Martinez
I don't give a fuck that he was on roids, I could watch him hit for days. This franchise hasn't had a RH bat like him since his retirement.
Could hit gap to gap, worked counts , was very clutch, had decent HR power, great doubles power. Boone, Edgar, Olerud was fun to watch.
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You have the sports media you deserve.He_Needs_More_Time said:Also how can Cano have RBI's when Almonte and Miller were hitting in front of him for the first month?
I dare someone to find a dumber media than Seattle media. How did we end up with all these fucktards?
CHRIST!
Most pussified city in the country and all that. -
Did you miss the part where I said I don't give a fuck that he was on roids?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Only with roids.He_Needs_More_Time said:RE: Edgar Martinez
I don't give a fuck that he was on roids, I could watch him hit for days. This franchise hasn't had a RH bat like him since his retirement.
Could hit gap to gap, worked counts , was very clutch, had decent HR power, great doubles power. Boone, Edgar, Olerud was fun to watch.
HTH
That was the era he played in. I think people retroactively shitting on that era were naive to begin with.
EDIT: Edgar led the AL in doubles in 1992 and had a .948 OPS. Also had 18 HR's which considering the league leader was at 43 home runs that is considered decent HR power and great doubles power.
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Who GAF?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Only with roids.He_Needs_More_Time said:RE: Edgar Martinez
I don't give a fuck that he was on roids, I could watch him hit for days. This franchise hasn't had a RH bat like him since his retirement.
Could hit gap to gap, worked counts , was very clutch, had decent HR power, great doubles power. Boone, Edgar, Olerud was fun to watch.
HTH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyyKLqlNTCM
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