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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    edited September 2020
    That's the only small worry I had. Fuck off Susan, fuck off Murkowski, fuck off Mitt the loser. Appears we have the votes. Let's do this. Don't give a fuck if Biden wins. SCOTUS for 20 years is worth any cost. Dem tears taste sweet.

    edit: How does Murkowski keep getting elected? Bitch.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566

    thechatch said:

    doogie said:

    Or?

    The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.

    Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.

    Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.

    As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
    In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
    The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.
    Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.
    Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.

    Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.

    Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
    It’s over...

    The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.


  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    Was just looking at some polling suggesting there is a good chance the Senate flips to blue. Jesus Christ it's going to be interesting if Dems get the White House and the Senate.

    Anybody in this shithole have any kind of a read on what is likely to happen in the Senate? I don't trust poles much.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    Swaye said:

    Was just looking at some polling suggesting there is a good chance the Senate flips to blue. Jesus Christ it's going to be interesting if Dems get the White House and the Senate.

    Anybody in this shithole have any kind of a read on what is likely to happen in the Senate? I don't trust poles much.

    Since idiots procreate at higher rates, I imagine the country continuing to turn blue.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    Was just looking at some polling suggesting there is a good chance the Senate flips to blue. Jesus Christ it's going to be interesting if Dems get the White House and the Senate.

    Anybody in this shithole have any kind of a read on what is likely to happen in the Senate? I don't trust poles much.

    Since idiots procreate at higher rates, I imagine the country continuing to turn blue.

  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537

    thechatch said:

    doogie said:

    Or?

    The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.

    Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.

    Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.

    As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
    In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
    The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.
    Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.
    Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.

    Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.

    Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
    It’s over...

    The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.


    Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.

    The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.



  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    Houhusky said:

    thechatch said:

    doogie said:

    Or?

    The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.

    Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.

    Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.

    As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
    In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
    The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.
    Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.
    Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.

    Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.

    Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
    It’s over...

    The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.


    Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.

    The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.



    I find it very strange that Dems are out fund raising the GOP by multiples if recent reporting is to be believed.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,549 Founders Club
    edited September 2020
    Swaye said:

    Was just looking at some polling suggesting there is a good chance the Senate flips to blue. Jesus Christ it's going to be interesting if Dems get the White House and the Senate.

    Anybody in this shithole have any kind of a read on what is likely to happen in the Senate? I don't trust poles much.

    "Good chance" is spin. IF you believe the polls they have a slightly favored chance of doing it but that's essentially negated by the fact that they have to win all their flips and not have any incumbents lose. A 50/50 split is a real possibility too.

    Get out and vote...in person.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited September 2020
    Swaye said:

    Houhusky said:

    thechatch said:

    doogie said:

    Or?

    The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.

    Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.

    Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.

    As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
    In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
    The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.
    Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.
    Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.

    Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.

    Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
    It’s over...

    The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.


    Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.

    The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.



    I find it very strange that Dems are out fund raising the GOP by multiples if recent reporting is to be believed.
    It’s not to be believed

    Key RNC figures of note from the party this morning:

    It raised $67.6 million in August, including money transferred from supporting organizations.
    - The RNC has $114.9 million on hand.
    - Total RNC, Trump campaign, and its committees raised $212 million.
    - Receipts for the 2019-2020 cycle across all entities was $1.3 billion.
    - RNC debt: $0.


    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/record-breaking-gop-fundraising-haul-just-in-time-for-final-trump-push