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Ginsberg Sells the Couch
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The democrats had a big chance on healthcare and gave us Obamacare and starting losing seats the next election because Obama was such a lying piece of shit
Yeah we need healthcare. We need to scrap the remnant of Obamacare and get prices down and lower than they were before Obama ruined it
If the public loves Obamacare so much Hillary would have beat Trump. They don't. They hate both parties for doing nothing to fix it
Get the government out of it. Make sure everyone gets heatlhCARE. Fuck insurance by the government -
I thought Biden had it all locked up anyways? Seems to be a no lose situation for them if they are already on their way out. Perfect situation to get a conservative court before the Marxists attempt government take over.incremetal_progress said:You can attack her personally and quibble with some of her remarks but the message on healthcare is direct and devastating.
Yes the republicans got the SCOTUS supermajority liberals feared greatly, congratulations it's devastating. But it's also not going to play well in November, both things are true. -
You're right healthcare is a real winning issue for Trump right now. I wonder why he isn't leaning into it more.
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page 2 issue. Obamacare isn’t on the ballot.
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Because he is smarter than you areincremetal_progress said:You're right healthcare is a real winning issue for Trump right now. I wonder why he isn't leaning into it more.
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THIS.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.
She's already dead. Empty seat automatically means higher stakes if left on the table. There's literally no reason to leave your opposition additional leverage if they win. You remove the additional incentive for opposition voters if you have the chance.
Those that will "punish vote" against you that weren't already going to are probably statistically meaningless. -
After reflecting on this I am in this camp now as well. My initial hot take was it was push lots of Voters to Biden. My initial hot takes are usually stupid.UW_Doog_Bot said:
THIS.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.
She's already dead. Empty seat automatically means higher stakes if left on the table. There's literally no reason to leave your opposition additional leverage if they win. You remove the additional incentive for opposition voters if you have the chance.
Those that will "punish vote" against you that weren't already going to are probably statistically meaningless. -
It really is some nice guys finish last shit not to and we have entered thunderdome where 2 parties enter 1 party leaves.Swaye said:
After reflecting on this I am in this camp now as well. My initial hot take was it was push lots of Voters to Biden. My initial hot takes are usually stupid.UW_Doog_Bot said:
THIS.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.
She's already dead. Empty seat automatically means higher stakes if left on the table. There's literally no reason to leave your opposition additional leverage if they win. You remove the additional incentive for opposition voters if you have the chance.
Those that will "punish vote" against you that weren't already going to are probably statistically meaningless.
The Dems and their erstwhile marxist/statist allies are playing to win the game en full and eliminate future competition. Spying on opposing parties, attempting a litigation coup, and attempting to leverage and instigate insurrectionists isn't "civil democracy". It's naked power real politik. I'm glad to see Trump's winners win attitude has rubbed off ever so slightly on the GOP. -
At worst it's a short term trade off for a long term gain. SCOTUS supermajority trumps (lolol11o1!0o) a presidential term even with a house and senate majority.incremetal_progress said:You can attack her personally and quibble with some of her remarks but the message on healthcare is direct and devastating.
Yes the republicans got the SCOTUS supermajority liberals feared greatly, congratulations it's devastating. But it's also not going to play well in November, both things are true. -
All the BLM money is funneling right to the DNCSwaye said:
I find it very strange that Dems are out fund raising the GOP by multiples if recent reporting is to be believed.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.
