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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,695 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    There isn’t even one among you who wouldn’t bet the proposition that the story is true if forced to choose. Your lies are all for show.

    So we should believe a media that has been caught in lie after lie? Your admonishment rings hollow.
    “Media” as a monolith is your excuse? What will it be when someone does go on the record?
    You'd think they'd be front and center at this point.

    You swallowed the whole Ukraine phone call, whistle blower, Vindman sham like a 5 dollar ho!

    The “sham” that a majority of the US Senate agreed had been proven?
    The sham that democrats tried to stage a coup with? That sham? My God you really are this stupid!
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  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    HHusky said:

    NorthwestFresh said:

    NeverTrumper Griffin has imaginary “unimpeachable” sources.

    Meanwhile almost a dozen people with Trump that day are now on record saying they didn’t hear him say it. Fake News has zero credibility.

    Brit Hume says you’re full of shit.
    Still no named sources. You’re really bad at this.

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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    but why did Britt out Trump?
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  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800
    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    There isn’t even one among you who wouldn’t bet the proposition that the story is true if forced to choose. Your lies are all for show.

    So we should believe a media that has been caught in lie after lie? Your admonishment rings hollow.
    “Media” as a monolith is your excuse? What will it be when someone does go on the record?
    If Trump did half the things he’s been accused of we’d have a smoking gun. We don’t. Instead it’s always unnamed sources. I need evidence, not accusations.
    He’s done most of the things he’s been accused of. Your demands for proof beyond any metaphysical doubt is noted.
    Yet another accusation. Still no proof.
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  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited September 2020
    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    There isn’t even one among you who wouldn’t bet the proposition that the story is true if forced to choose. Your lies are all for show.

    So we should believe a media that has been caught in lie after lie? Your admonishment rings hollow.
    “Media” as a monolith is your excuse? What will it be when someone does go on the record?
    If Trump did half the things he’s been accused of we’d have a smoking gun. We don’t. Instead it’s always unnamed sources. I need evidence, not accusations.
    He’s done most of the things he’s been accused of. Your demands for proof beyond any metaphysical doubt is noted.
    Yet another accusation. Still no proof.
    Again, you’re dealing with an absolute Fraud who has in the past said he lies to advance his political agenda. He’s a troll, and a boring one at that. (insert Boris/Ivan glib response)
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,891
    doogie said:

    Evidence like a video press conference of VP Biden openly interfering with a foreign fraud investigation of his unqualified cocaine addicted son for a Board slot on an energy company?

    or evidence like a coordinated hit piece from a compromised enemy sighting “unnamed sources” as confirmed?

    Setting the problems with this alleged equivalence aside, this is just whataboutism. You certainly can take the position that Daddy is an unpatriotic shit, but Biden is worse. That would be honest, at least. Is that what you’re trying to say?
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    We all think he said the things that have been reported. Why not just admit you don’t care?

    Still fucking this chicken I see Dazzler
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  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    We all think he said the things that have been reported. Why not just admit you don’t care?

    Still fucking this chicken I see Dazzler
    It’s almost as if he doesn’t recall posting the same nonsense yesterday. Bizarre.
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    I’m only trying to say one thing.

    Why are you lying about what Britt Hume said?
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,891
    NorthwestFresh said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    We all think he said the things that have been reported. Why not just admit you don’t care?

    Still fucking this chicken I see Dazzler
    It’s almost as if he doesn’t recall posting the same nonsense yesterday. Bizarre.
    Not everyone has lied to me yet. You did though, so no need to repeat it. blob’s still trying to avoid the question.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,891
    NorthwestFresh said:

    HHusky said:

    NorthwestFresh said:

    NeverTrumper Griffin has imaginary “unimpeachable” sources.

    Meanwhile almost a dozen people with Trump that day are now on record saying they didn’t hear him say it. Fake News has zero credibility.

    Brit Hume says you’re full of shit.
    Still no named sources. You’re really bad at this.

    Griffin doesn’t lie, according to Brit. He said your accusations of her are bullshit.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,745 Founders Club
    And?
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,891
    NorthwestFresh said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    There isn’t even one among you who wouldn’t bet the proposition that the story is true if forced to choose. Your lies are all for show.

    So we should believe a media that has been caught in lie after lie? Your admonishment rings hollow.
    “Media” as a monolith is your excuse? What will it be when someone does go on the record?
    If Trump did half the things he’s been accused of we’d have a smoking gun. We don’t. Instead it’s always unnamed sources. I need evidence, not accusations.
    He’s done most of the things he’s been accused of. Your demands for proof beyond any metaphysical doubt is noted.
    Yet another accusation. Still no proof.
    Again, you’re dealing with an absolute Fraud who has in the past said he lies to advance his political agenda. He’s a troll, and a boring one at that. (insert Boris/Ivan glib response)
    Link to this supposed confession you keep trying to claim I made?
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    I see what Britt said and I see what you say he claimed.

    I don’t see Brit saying it, however, your honoR
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,891
    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    There isn’t even one among you who wouldn’t bet the proposition that the story is true if forced to choose. Your lies are all for show.

    So we should believe a media that has been caught in lie after lie? Your admonishment rings hollow.
    “Media” as a monolith is your excuse? What will it be when someone does go on the record?
    If Trump did half the things he’s been accused of we’d have a smoking gun. We don’t. Instead it’s always unnamed sources. I need evidence, not accusations.
    He’s done most of the things he’s been accused of. Your demands for proof beyond any metaphysical doubt is noted.
    Yet another accusation. Still no proof.
    You don’t think the case against Individual 1 is proven? The impeachment articles which 53 Senators went on record to agree were proven?

    You’re in deep denial.
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  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited September 2020
    HHusky said:

    NorthwestFresh said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    There isn’t even one among you who wouldn’t bet the proposition that the story is true if forced to choose. Your lies are all for show.

    So we should believe a media that has been caught in lie after lie? Your admonishment rings hollow.
    “Media” as a monolith is your excuse? What will it be when someone does go on the record?
    If Trump did half the things he’s been accused of we’d have a smoking gun. We don’t. Instead it’s always unnamed sources. I need evidence, not accusations.
    He’s done most of the things he’s been accused of. Your demands for proof beyond any metaphysical doubt is noted.
    Yet another accusation. Still no proof.
    Again, you’re dealing with an absolute Fraud who has in the past said he lies to advance his political agenda. He’s a troll, and a boring one at that. (insert Boris/Ivan glib response)
    Link to this supposed confession you keep trying to claim I made?
    HHusky said:

    NorthwestFresh said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    There isn’t even one among you who wouldn’t bet the proposition that the story is true if forced to choose. Your lies are all for show.

    So we should believe a media that has been caught in lie after lie? Your admonishment rings hollow.
    “Media” as a monolith is your excuse? What will it be when someone does go on the record?
    If Trump did half the things he’s been accused of we’d have a smoking gun. We don’t. Instead it’s always unnamed sources. I need evidence, not accusations.
    He’s done most of the things he’s been accused of. Your demands for proof beyond any metaphysical doubt is noted.
    Yet another accusation. Still no proof.
    Again, you’re dealing with an absolute Fraud who has in the past said he lies to advance his political agenda. He’s a troll, and a boring one at that. (insert Boris/Ivan glib response)
    Link to this supposed confession you keep trying to claim I made?
    You said it, everybody from The Shed knows it. Again, where is the named source. Just one. Here is Trump talking about the injured soldiers in his own words. Soldiers Biden helped send to Iraq for Oil.

    You, Biden, and the Bush Lied People Died Warmongers you fondly embrace can continue to dance on troops’ graves.

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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    looks photo shopped. It’s fake.

    But the Atlantic article is troo
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,891
    NorthwestFresh said:

    HHusky said:

    NorthwestFresh said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    There isn’t even one among you who wouldn’t bet the proposition that the story is true if forced to choose. Your lies are all for show.

    So we should believe a media that has been caught in lie after lie? Your admonishment rings hollow.
    “Media” as a monolith is your excuse? What will it be when someone does go on the record?
    If Trump did half the things he’s been accused of we’d have a smoking gun. We don’t. Instead it’s always unnamed sources. I need evidence, not accusations.
    He’s done most of the things he’s been accused of. Your demands for proof beyond any metaphysical doubt is noted.
    Yet another accusation. Still no proof.
    Again, you’re dealing with an absolute Fraud who has in the past said he lies to advance his political agenda. He’s a troll, and a boring one at that. (insert Boris/Ivan glib response)
    Link to this supposed confession you keep trying to claim I made?
    HHusky said:

    NorthwestFresh said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    There isn’t even one among you who wouldn’t bet the proposition that the story is true if forced to choose. Your lies are all for show.

    So we should believe a media that has been caught in lie after lie? Your admonishment rings hollow.
    “Media” as a monolith is your excuse? What will it be when someone does go on the record?
    If Trump did half the things he’s been accused of we’d have a smoking gun. We don’t. Instead it’s always unnamed sources. I need evidence, not accusations.
    He’s done most of the things he’s been accused of. Your demands for proof beyond any metaphysical doubt is noted.
    Yet another accusation. Still no proof.
    Again, you’re dealing with an absolute Fraud who has in the past said he lies to advance his political agenda. He’s a troll, and a boring one at that. (insert Boris/Ivan glib response)
    Link to this supposed confession you keep trying to claim I made?
    You said it, everybody from The Shed knows it. Again, where is the naked source. Just one. Here is Trump talking about the injured soldiers in his own words. Soldiers Biden helped send to Iraq for Oil.

    You, Biden, and the Bush Lied People Died Warmongers you fondly embrace can continue to dance on troops’ graves.

    NorthwestFresh said:

    HHusky said:

    NorthwestFresh said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    There isn’t even one among you who wouldn’t bet the proposition that the story is true if forced to choose. Your lies are all for show.

    So we should believe a media that has been caught in lie after lie? Your admonishment rings hollow.
    “Media” as a monolith is your excuse? What will it be when someone does go on the record?
    If Trump did half the things he’s been accused of we’d have a smoking gun. We don’t. Instead it’s always unnamed sources. I need evidence, not accusations.
    He’s done most of the things he’s been accused of. Your demands for proof beyond any metaphysical doubt is noted.
    Yet another accusation. Still no proof.
    Again, you’re dealing with an absolute Fraud who has in the past said he lies to advance his political agenda. He’s a troll, and a boring one at that. (insert Boris/Ivan glib response)
    Link to this supposed confession you keep trying to claim I made?
    HHusky said:

    NorthwestFresh said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    There isn’t even one among you who wouldn’t bet the proposition that the story is true if forced to choose. Your lies are all for show.

    So we should believe a media that has been caught in lie after lie? Your admonishment rings hollow.
    “Media” as a monolith is your excuse? What will it be when someone does go on the record?
    If Trump did half the things he’s been accused of we’d have a smoking gun. We don’t. Instead it’s always unnamed sources. I need evidence, not accusations.
    He’s done most of the things he’s been accused of. Your demands for proof beyond any metaphysical doubt is noted.
    Yet another accusation. Still no proof.
    Again, you’re dealing with an absolute Fraud who has in the past said he lies to advance his political agenda. He’s a troll, and a boring one at that. (insert Boris/Ivan glib response)
    Link to this supposed confession you keep trying to claim I made?
    You said it, everybody from The Shed knows it. Again, where is the naked source. Just one. Here is Trump talking about the injured soldiers in his own words. Soldiers Biden helped send to Iraq for Oil.

    You, Biden, and the Bush Lied People Died Warmongers you fondly embrace can continue to dance on troops’ graves.

    You mean Daddy knows enough not to call our troops “suckers” in public. No shit.
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  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    HHusky said:

    NorthwestFresh said:

    HHusky said:

    NorthwestFresh said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    There isn’t even one among you who wouldn’t bet the proposition that the story is true if forced to choose. Your lies are all for show.

    So we should believe a media that has been caught in lie after lie? Your admonishment rings hollow.
    “Media” as a monolith is your excuse? What will it be when someone does go on the record?
    If Trump did half the things he’s been accused of we’d have a smoking gun. We don’t. Instead it’s always unnamed sources. I need evidence, not accusations.
    He’s done most of the things he’s been accused of. Your demands for proof beyond any metaphysical doubt is noted.
    Yet another accusation. Still no proof.
    Again, you’re dealing with an absolute Fraud who has in the past said he lies to advance his political agenda. He’s a troll, and a boring one at that. (insert Boris/Ivan glib response)
    Link to this supposed confession you keep trying to claim I made?
    HHusky said:

    NorthwestFresh said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    There isn’t even one among you who wouldn’t bet the proposition that the story is true if forced to choose. Your lies are all for show.

    So we should believe a media that has been caught in lie after lie? Your admonishment rings hollow.
    “Media” as a monolith is your excuse? What will it be when someone does go on the record?
    If Trump did half the things he’s been accused of we’d have a smoking gun. We don’t. Instead it’s always unnamed sources. I need evidence, not accusations.
    He’s done most of the things he’s been accused of. Your demands for proof beyond any metaphysical doubt is noted.
    Yet another accusation. Still no proof.
    Again, you’re dealing with an absolute Fraud who has in the past said he lies to advance his political agenda. He’s a troll, and a boring one at that. (insert Boris/Ivan glib response)
    Link to this supposed confession you keep trying to claim I made?
    You said it, everybody from The Shed knows it. Again, where is the naked source. Just one. Here is Trump talking about the injured soldiers in his own words. Soldiers Biden helped send to Iraq for Oil.

    You, Biden, and the Bush Lied People Died Warmongers you fondly embrace can continue to dance on troops’ graves.

    NorthwestFresh said:

    HHusky said:

    NorthwestFresh said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    There isn’t even one among you who wouldn’t bet the proposition that the story is true if forced to choose. Your lies are all for show.

    So we should believe a media that has been caught in lie after lie? Your admonishment rings hollow.
    “Media” as a monolith is your excuse? What will it be when someone does go on the record?
    If Trump did half the things he’s been accused of we’d have a smoking gun. We don’t. Instead it’s always unnamed sources. I need evidence, not accusations.
    He’s done most of the things he’s been accused of. Your demands for proof beyond any metaphysical doubt is noted.
    Yet another accusation. Still no proof.
    Again, you’re dealing with an absolute Fraud who has in the past said he lies to advance his political agenda. He’s a troll, and a boring one at that. (insert Boris/Ivan glib response)
    Link to this supposed confession you keep trying to claim I made?
    HHusky said:

    NorthwestFresh said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    There isn’t even one among you who wouldn’t bet the proposition that the story is true if forced to choose. Your lies are all for show.

    So we should believe a media that has been caught in lie after lie? Your admonishment rings hollow.
    “Media” as a monolith is your excuse? What will it be when someone does go on the record?
    If Trump did half the things he’s been accused of we’d have a smoking gun. We don’t. Instead it’s always unnamed sources. I need evidence, not accusations.
    He’s done most of the things he’s been accused of. Your demands for proof beyond any metaphysical doubt is noted.
    Yet another accusation. Still no proof.
    Again, you’re dealing with an absolute Fraud who has in the past said he lies to advance his political agenda. He’s a troll, and a boring one at that. (insert Boris/Ivan glib response)
    Link to this supposed confession you keep trying to claim I made?
    You said it, everybody from The Shed knows it. Again, where is the naked source. Just one. Here is Trump talking about the injured soldiers in his own words. Soldiers Biden helped send to Iraq for Oil.

    You, Biden, and the Bush Lied People Died Warmongers you fondly embrace can continue to dance on troops’ graves.

    You mean Daddy knows enough not to call our troops “suckers” in public. No shit.
    You really are a complete piece of trash. Later, loser. See, I called you a loser and you don’t need made-up sources.

    Good luck in your fantasy land where you’re a Big Shot attorney when the reality you have to go to the middle of a Trump state to save whatever racket you’re running.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    edited September 2020
    doogie said:

    Tequilla said:

    Pitchfork51 said:

    Tequilla said:

    Pitchfork51 said:

    Tequilla said:

    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    Fair warning, sizeable rant coming ...

    I was talking with my Dad last night and he made a great point regarding disinformation and that being that if you're accused of something that is pure BS, how do you defend yourself against it? In the end, it's a he said she said type situation right?

    And in a nutshell, this is a large contributing factor to why our country is so fucked right now ...

    Politics in general is more corrupt than it has ever been. There was a documentary on HBO titled "The Swamp" that I think just came out that wasn't super enlightening from a "I can't believe this happens" to having a better understand of how prevalent and how easily veiled threats basically result in the parties controlling everything. It's why we have the polarized party lines and really not a ton of bipartisan activities.

    When you think about things in those terms, it makes someone like Biden as a (frontrunner) Presidential candidate make a ton of sense. It isn't about Biden at this point. It's about having someone that runs that can be completely controlled by the party insiders.

    The PACs are beyond out of control and the influence of big money in politics creates a blatant conflict of interest. Roll everything up and it's so easy to understand the whole thing is rotting at its core.

    And let me be clear, the rotting isn't from one side or the other. Both sides are rotted and the reality is that the primary difference is that it's just different game plans and execution traits.

    Reality at this point is nobody knows what to believe. It's all about pollution of news and information to confuse. We jump on what we see in social media but it's almost always lacking in context and full of people trying to catch people in gotcha moments designed to distort reality. Actual journalism and reporting of truth is largely gone. News networks are really just political propaganda arms on both sides.

    TL, DR version = we're fucked

    Both sides may be rotten but I've yet to see the GOP do anything as sleazy and dishonest as what the Rats did to Kavanaugh. There is zero integrity on the left there is some among conservatives.
    Definitely not interested in a pissing match on which side is more righteous than the other at this point

    My point is that there's issues on both sides and part of the problem right now is that both sides are really quick to blame the other side for all the problems. It's not accurate. Both sides in various forms have massive warts.

    I would tend to agree with you that I think that right has a little more integrity left to them at this point. But I'm also not going to default to some kind of illusions that the problems are all on one side ... just not reality.
    The left has now made "both sides" a meme. So you are the enemy to them.
    That's absolute and total bullshit

    Things are never as good as they seem ... never as bad as they seem

    Our political environment is not because one side has completely fucked everything over and the other is pristine and beyond approach.

    The reality is that I'd argue that the last President that we had that was widely viewed positively by both sides of the aisle was Reagan ... and he left office over 30 years ago. Before that? Probably going back to Ike? Nixon won in a landslide ... and we know how that all worked out. We've been largely void of strong leaders for a while and desperately need one again.

    It'd be great to have a slam dunk candidate ... the partisanship is rotting the country
    They believe the opposite of that. You are a russian bot spewing #bothsides hatred.

    Dont shoot the messenger.
    Who is "they" ... assuming you're talking about Democrats

    I listen to what they say ... and I disagree with the vast majority of what they say for many reasons

    Just because I disagree with what the Democrats say doesn't mean that I'm going to buy everything that a Republican says as being right and just ... there's a lot of things that I see from the Republican side of things where the stance that they take on positions isn't one that I would take

    I'll take the fact that I'm a "Russian Bot" as a complement
    Sounds like you’re voting Democrat again but, you’re not happy about it!!!
    While I have voted Democrat before for President ... I’m 4-1 Republican in my votes

    Thanks for playing

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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,695 Standard Supporter
    HH is to the point he just deserves Fuck Off's not responses. I'm sure he's really a law clerk working for a pro abortion attorney. This was confirmed by an anonymous source.
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  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Let’s all believe the guy who was pushing the Iraq War lies for the Bush and the Biden war machine.

    Great Terror!! Be afraid or Saddam will kill you. The straight up lies...

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/03/25/the-great-terror

    The Great Terror

    In northern Iraq, there is new evidence of Saddam Hussein’s genocidal war on the Kurds—and of his possible ties to Al Qaeda.

    Jeffrey GoldbergMarch 17, 2002
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,891
    edited September 2020
    RaceBannon said:

    And?

    And Richard Nixon is wondering where you gals were when he needed you.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,745 Founders Club
    Huh?
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    You don’t remember when Richard Nixon declared War on the Kurds?
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  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,003
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    We all think he said the things that have been reported. Why not just admit you don’t care?

    Still fucking this chicken I see Dazzler
    He's banged that chicken so much today that nothing will ever hear it fart again.

    When HH gets his ass beat he does this same dance over and over again.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    WestlinnDuck said:

    "Who is "they" ... assuming you're talking about Democrats

    I listen to what they say ... and I disagree with the vast majority of what they say for many reasons

    Just because I disagree with what the Democrats say doesn't mean that I'm going to buy everything that a Republican says as being right and just ... there's a lot of things that I see from the Republican side of things where the stance that they take on positions isn't one that I would take

    I'll take the fact that I'm a "Russian Bot" as a complement"

    You would also take your love of ass phucking strawmen as a compliment. Who here buys everything that a Republican says as being right and just? Give us three things, out of a "lot", that Republicans take on a position is one that you disagree with? Don't hurt yourself.

    I know my fair share of Republicans that when it comes to saying anything critical about a Republican immediately default to blaming others ... just like Democrats. So yes, there's a large segment of people at this point that I view on both sides as being "we're right and the other side wrong."

    As for your question about 3 positions that Republicans take that I have nuanced differences with what you typically see from Republicans, here you go:

    1) Abortion - to be clear, it's not something that I would ever willingly view as a solution for my personal life. But I also know enough to know that a hard stance on abortion and how that plays to women isn't favorable. I don't know if I have a solution per se (my sense is that this may be better applied at the state level). However, I'd be much more focused on education of the pro's and con's to abortion, etc. as well as ensuring that when they are performed that they are done so safely (don't want to go back to the days of the 50s and 60s). I tend to be of the opinion that even if there is a change in abortion law that makes it illegal, you'll just have them occurring on the black market per se. Cat is out of the bag on that one.

    2) Religion - this is another one where I feel like the hardlined overly religious arm of the party hurts more than it helps. I'd rather see a stance where embracing freedom of religion is promoted and not an in your face approach. Currently, there's freedom but it feels like it is more to specific religions. I'd also leverage this to really target the hypocrisy of the Democrats on this issue. I get that the Democrats are really embracing the removal of "one nation under God" as part of the Pledge of Allegiance. And I think it's ok if you are of a different religion that you don't feel like you're obligated to say that part. But there's a level of hypocrisy to saying that one group has a freedom of religion to not say something but another group doesn't have a freedom of religion to embrace something. I'd really try to capitalize on that. Part of freedom of religion to me also means that we have an educational system that ensures that students learn about the basic tenants of each religion. Creating an understanding (as with most things) will serve to disarm the differences.

    3) Military Spending & the Budget: First, I'm a big proponent of a strong military/defense because there is an insurance policy element of it that rarely do you ever see a return on it and honestly you don't want to see that return actualized. I'm also a firm believer that you need to have a balanced budget and notably so when you're operating at large debt levels. Depending on time periods, what's going on, etc. the Federal Budget is in the 4-6% range of GDP and about 15-20% of the Federal Budget. I think we need to get a little smarter at not only how we spend and allocate our resources given the way that "modern warfare" will occur, but also need to really explore how to deflect our outlays. For example, I will give Trump credit for calling out how our military presence dramatically reduces requirements for other countries. There's a fine line there of course.

    My adjustments to how Republican really come down to the following: 1) I'd like to see us take a stronger position regarding transforming what the military looks like going forward ... it's going to be less tied to having an army per se ... it's going to be more technology based, cyber warfare, biochemical warfare, etc.; 2) really engaging in a public quantifying of what the value of US military presence is in countries and coming to agreements with countries on the value of our presence - think of it as a consulting agreement; and 3) really thinking through the lense of how to balance the budget. The 2020 deficit is an outlier because of COVID, but for 2019 the US Government operated at a Budget Deficit around $900 Billion. So between what I'm describing above, as well as really scrutinizing existing programs, services, etc. that Republicans need to make a stated goal of operating at worst at relatively breakeven Budget Deficits by streamlining expenses and when there are needs to operate at a deficit (i.e. this year due to COVID, war, etc. that frank conversations with the American people regarding what's being spent and what the paths forward look like to recover budget neutrality.

    And a bonus 4th item ... Republicans should be pounding the message home about equality and in instances where there are racism based crimes. As a country, we should heavily consider what crimes made based on someone's race or religion look like ad create even stronger penalties for such actions. That is something that would be consistent with being viewed as the party of "law and order." They key to that would be to ensure that a well reasoned and actionable set of criteria to not just turn that into a shit storm. Moral of the story is be about actions and make sure those actions are transparent.
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    NorthwestFresh said:

    Let’s all believe the guy who was pushing the Iraq War lies for the Bush and the Biden war machine.

    Great Terror!! Be afraid or Saddam will kill you. The straight up lies...

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/03/25/the-great-terror

    The Great Terror

    In northern Iraq, there is new evidence of Saddam Hussein’s genocidal war on the Kurds—and of his possible ties to Al Qaeda.

    Jeffrey GoldbergMarch 17, 2002

    Hell Obama has ties to Al Qaueda. Armed ISIS etc. Everyone loves BHO!
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