Sawant Celebrates Victory Against Rasicm
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Fuck her. What a cunt.NorthwestFresh said:Seattle is a Socialist shithole. This woman is insane.
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Do you know how out of touch you have to be to honestly believe running an African American woman out of a high profile position, in your personal quest for power, and then claim that is somehow a victory against racism? I mean seriously. These people are clinically insane. As are all the douchbags who vote for them.
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Sawant should keep her trap shut - when Chief Best runs for mayor, she's gonna bring a shit ton of law and order persons of color with her gunning for Council seats.
As the swarthy one says, the money'd in Seattle are probably just about at the point where they say 'ok, the gloves are coming off. GTFO and let the adults run things".
Cook it.
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I agree, but wonder how 22,000 people were stupid enough to vote for her. My home is not in her district and there were plenty of Sawant signs. This lady seems to have plenty of supporters.
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I am seeing and sensing a lot of timidness in people around the Seattle area. I'm not sensing people reaching that Peter Finch moment. I hope I'm wrong.PurpleThrobber said:Sawant should keep her trap shut - when Chief Best runs for mayor, she's gonna bring a shit ton of law and order persons of color with her gunning for Council seats.
As the swarthy one says, the money'd in Seattle are probably just about at the point where they say 'ok, the gloves are coming off. GTFO and let the adults run things".
Cook it. -
People from the northwest are mostly big ass vaginasDerekJohnson said:
I am seeing and sensing a lot of timidness in people around the Seattle area. I'm not sensing people reaching that Peter Finch moment. I hope I'm wrong.PurpleThrobber said:Sawant should keep her trap shut - when Chief Best runs for mayor, she's gonna bring a shit ton of law and order persons of color with her gunning for Council seats.
As the swarthy one says, the money'd in Seattle are probably just about at the point where they say 'ok, the gloves are coming off. GTFO and let the adults run things".
Cook it. -
I've told this story before, but I was living in Seattle when she was first elected. When she was campaigning, I was talking to a neighbor of mine. She was like, "It is just so exciting to think we could elect a woman of Indian descent to such a prominent position!" And I said, "yeah, but have you heard some of the things she's saying? Sometimes she sounds almost crazy."hardhat said:I agree, but wonder how 22,000 people were stupid enough to vote for her. My home is not in her district and there were plenty of Sawant signs. This lady seems to have plenty of supporters.
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Because people just plain like racism. Especially self-loathing white liberals.hardhat said:I agree, but wonder how 22,000 people were stupid enough to vote for her. My home is not in her district and there were plenty of Sawant signs. This lady seems to have plenty of supporters.
To them, it explains everything, just like the Bible does for crazy Christians.
It's a religious cult, where whites have no power and enjoy the abuse.
Kind of like a chick I once dated. Weird shit. -
Lefties are racist? Tell me it isn't so! Oh yeah they were ALWAYS the racists.
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There are A LOT of millenial transplants in Seattle. They are a mercurial bunch and they don't like to live in the same place for long. They also vote and are the likely source of support for the council.hardhat said:I agree, but wonder how 22,000 people were stupid enough to vote for her. My home is not in her district and there were plenty of Sawant signs. This lady seems to have plenty of supporters.
There are a lot other people in Seattle outside that demographic who have probably never cast a ballot for a council position. It's hardly ever been that important.
Seattle is a liberal place. I'm not going to deny that. But across the board, not that liberal. -
This. It really does explain a lot. It's not that Seattle is full of people excited to have their wealth re-distributed by a Marxist city council. It's that historical racism has so overwhelmed the collective American psyche that we? can't see past our nose for it. So Derek's encounter is, in my view, very typical of the average centrist-to-progressive Seattle resident. She's a dark brown woman, so it must be good that she's occupies a position in the seat of power.TurdBomber said:
Because people just plain like racism. Especially self-loathing white liberals.hardhat said:I agree, but wonder how 22,000 people were stupid enough to vote for her. My home is not in her district and there were plenty of Sawant signs. This lady seems to have plenty of supporters.
To them, it explains everything, just like the Bible does for crazy Christians.
It's a religious cult, where whites have no power and enjoy the abuse.
Kind of like a chick I once dated. Weird shit.
The question is, how long will the good will of THAT constituency last?
The sad part is that it comes from a good place. It's empathetic people seeing that it's a good thing that historically marginalized people have made progress. Nothing wrong with that general sentiment in my view. But what is wrong is when it's taken to the psychologically sick place @TurdBomber describes, where white progressives feel like they need to suffer or something. When you're there, you won't question anything the formerly oppressed do to you. Like the white chick kneeling on command. It's a sickness and it distorts perception. -
It's also positive reinforcement - meaning you want more of it - of degrading, dehumanizing, discriminatory behavior.creepycoug said:
This. It really does explain a lot. It's not that Seattle is full of people excited to have their wealth re-distributed by a Marxist city council. It's that historical racism has so overwhelmed the collective American psyche that we? can't see past our nose for it. So Derek's encounter is, in my view, very typical of the average centrist-to-progressive Seattle resident. She's a dark brown woman, so it must be good that she's occupies a position in the seat of power.TurdBomber said:
Because people just plain like racism. Especially self-loathing white liberals.hardhat said:I agree, but wonder how 22,000 people were stupid enough to vote for her. My home is not in her district and there were plenty of Sawant signs. This lady seems to have plenty of supporters.
To them, it explains everything, just like the Bible does for crazy Christians.
It's a religious cult, where whites have no power and enjoy the abuse.
Kind of like a chick I once dated. Weird shit.
The question is, how long will the good will of THAT constituency last?
The sad part is that it comes from a good place. It's empathetic people seeing that it's a good thing that historically marginalized people have made progress. Nothing wrong with that general sentiment in my view. But what is wrong is when it's taken to the psychologically sick place @TurdBomber describes, where white progressives feel like they need to suffer or something. When you're there, you won't question anything the formerly oppressed do to you. Like the white chick kneeling on command. It's a sickness and it distorts perception.
Those demanding it might as well say "it's your turn to be the slave now." -
Exactly right. What I think represents some degree of hope is that the parental instict should be stronger than this psychological failing in most poeple. That is, it's one thing if you want to suffer and kneel on command over past sins of society. It's an entirely different thing for that command to be shouted at one of your kids. Eventually, people will revert to instincts of self-preservation and realize, "hey, my kid has to live in this world we're creating."TurdBomber said:
It's also positive reinforcement - meaning you want more of it - of degrading, dehumanizing, discriminatory behavior.creepycoug said:
This. It really does explain a lot. It's not that Seattle is full of people excited to have their wealth re-distributed by a Marxist city council. It's that historical racism has so overwhelmed the collective American psyche that we? can't see past our nose for it. So Derek's encounter is, in my view, very typical of the average centrist-to-progressive Seattle resident. She's a dark brown woman, so it must be good that she's occupies a position in the seat of power.TurdBomber said:
Because people just plain like racism. Especially self-loathing white liberals.hardhat said:I agree, but wonder how 22,000 people were stupid enough to vote for her. My home is not in her district and there were plenty of Sawant signs. This lady seems to have plenty of supporters.
To them, it explains everything, just like the Bible does for crazy Christians.
It's a religious cult, where whites have no power and enjoy the abuse.
Kind of like a chick I once dated. Weird shit.
The question is, how long will the good will of THAT constituency last?
The sad part is that it comes from a good place. It's empathetic people seeing that it's a good thing that historically marginalized people have made progress. Nothing wrong with that general sentiment in my view. But what is wrong is when it's taken to the psychologically sick place @TurdBomber describes, where white progressives feel like they need to suffer or something. When you're there, you won't question anything the formerly oppressed do to you. Like the white chick kneeling on command. It's a sickness and it distorts perception.
Those demanding it might as well say "it's your turn to be the slave now." -
Like the white chick kneeling on command
That would be the only good thing about her -
I hope you're fucking right, but the council continues to move further left and people keep voting for them. If the old money residents actually get driven out, the trend will only escalate.PurpleThrobber said:Sawant should keep her trap shut - when Chief Best runs for mayor, she's gonna bring a shit ton of law and order persons of color with her gunning for Council seats.
As the swarthy one says, the money'd in Seattle are probably just about at the point where they say 'ok, the gloves are coming off. GTFO and let the adults run things".
Cook it.
Shit, look at Alex Pederson. He was the "conservative" in the last election, and he's been a complete limp dick for any kind of reigning in of the council, tougher stance on homelessness, etc. -
Much to the chagrin of my conservative parents, growing up I was quiet the leftist...DerekJohnson said:
I've told this story before, but I was living in Seattle when she was first elected. When she was campaigning, I was talking to a neighbor of mine. She was like, "It is just so exciting to think we could elect a woman of Indian descent to such a prominent position!" And I said, "yeah, but have you heard some of the things she's saying? Sometimes she sounds almost crazy."hardhat said:I agree, but wonder how 22,000 people were stupid enough to vote for her. My home is not in her district and there were plenty of Sawant signs. This lady seems to have plenty of supporters.
The first thing that really caused me to examine my beliefs was Obama's election.
It was really eye opening when I heard my "non racist" friends saying similar racist stuff about Obama. About how exciting it was to vote for someone because they were black. Or how great it was that he was articulate and black... That type of open and socially acceptable racism really weirded me out.
Over the next few years the same "libertarian" friends that ranted about Bush being a war mongering, nazi, blood for oil, spying, authoritarian, dictator became some of the most vocal white knights for Obama...
The acceptable obvious racism and then political hypocrisy was the beginning of my path towards moderatism. -
People forget that Sawant was initially elected CITY-WIDE prior to the switch to districts. People forget that.hardhat said:I agree, but wonder how 22,000 people were stupid enough to vote for her. My home is not in her district and there were plenty of Sawant signs. This lady seems to have plenty of supporters.
It is delusional to think there are any adults taking anything back in Seattle right now. All of the people with money are spineless cowards. Look at the hollow Chamber of Commerce for the prime example. -
Sawant, who married into money, and lives 2 blocks from friends of mine, in a 2MM+ house in Leschi, sure likes to talk a LOT about taking other peoples money away.
Fuck her. -
You are spot on, man.DerekJohnson said:
I am seeing and sensing a lot of timidness in people around the Seattle area. I'm not sensing people reaching that Peter Finch moment. I hope I'm wrong.PurpleThrobber said:Sawant should keep her trap shut - when Chief Best runs for mayor, she's gonna bring a shit ton of law and order persons of color with her gunning for Council seats.
As the swarthy one says, the money'd in Seattle are probably just about at the point where they say 'ok, the gloves are coming off. GTFO and let the adults run things".
Cook it. -
People on Seattle are SOFT. It’s transformed into a downtown area of woke “liberals” and foreign transplants who work in tech. Those remaining sane people have professional profiles that make leaving the area difficult. Everyone else has moved east, and a larger migration is coming over the next 5 years.
By 2030, Seattle will be like SF, where no one who lives there is actually from there. That is the end result, and it is unavoidable. -
Of the 150k or so new residents over the past decade, about 80% were somewhere between 20 and 35 and 90% had college degrees, which means they've had the intellectually bankrupt Critical Race theory that cripples their minds shoved down their throats since high school.creepycoug said:
There are A LOT of millenial transplants in Seattle. They are a mercurial bunch and they don't like to live in the same place for long. They also vote and are the likely source of support for the council.hardhat said:I agree, but wonder how 22,000 people were stupid enough to vote for her. My home is not in her district and there were plenty of Sawant signs. This lady seems to have plenty of supporters.
There are a lot other people in Seattle outside that demographic who have probably never cast a ballot for a council position. It's hardly ever been that important.
Seattle is a liberal place. I'm not going to deny that. But across the board, not that liberal. -
Have to say, this doesn't jibe at all with my experience. I can't, with a straight face, take someone having a warm fuzzy feeling about the first black person elected to POTUS as " = racism". It feels like a right wing trope that, purposefully or not, provides cover and diversion for people who are blatantly racist. Sure, the "articulate" piece probably reveals some underlying racial bias. But I, too, thought the election of the first black POTUS was a good thing for America PRECISELY because he was black. That doesn't make me racist. It makes me aware of how far the country has come in my own lifetime, having been born just outside of the Jim Crow era.Houhusky said:
Much to the chagrin of my conservative parents, growing up I was quiet the leftist...DerekJohnson said:
I've told this story before, but I was living in Seattle when she was first elected. When she was campaigning, I was talking to a neighbor of mine. She was like, "It is just so exciting to think we could elect a woman of Indian descent to such a prominent position!" And I said, "yeah, but have you heard some of the things she's saying? Sometimes she sounds almost crazy."hardhat said:I agree, but wonder how 22,000 people were stupid enough to vote for her. My home is not in her district and there were plenty of Sawant signs. This lady seems to have plenty of supporters.
The first thing that really caused me to examine my beliefs was Obama's election.
It was really eye opening when I heard my "non racist" friends saying similar racist stuff about Obama. About how exciting it was to vote for someone because they were black. Or how great it was that he was articulate and black... That type of open and socially acceptable racism really weirded me out.
Over the next few years the same "libertarian" friends that ranted about Bush being a war mongering, nazi, blood for oil, spying, authoritarian, dictator became some of the most vocal white knights for Obama...
The acceptable obvious racism and then political hypocrisy was the beginning of my path towards moderatism.
The Tug makes a living off of focusing on this other behavior and saying that's the real racism. I don't buy it, and this is where I get tagged with being a liberal. I've turned my view on classic "Uncle Tom" rhetoric; but this idea that people who are progressive and spend their time and energy pushing for more blacks and other minorities in this or that segment of society as being racist feels more like a poltical tactic.
And I've never known anyone who pushes a libertarian point of view who ever cheered for Obama just because he's black. That is the last group of people to do that sort of thing. They are all about the opposite of that mind-set. I would profer that those people are not libertarian. -
Can confirm.creepycoug said:
Have to say, this doesn't jibe at all with my experience. I can't, with a straight face, take someone having a warm fuzzy feeling about the first black person elected to POTUS as " = racism". It feels like a right wing trope that, purposefully or not, provides cover and diversion for people who are blatantly racist. Sure, the "articulate" piece probably reveals some underlying racial bias. But I, too, thought the election of the first black POTUS was a good thing for America PRECISELY because he was black. That doesn't make me racist. It makes me aware of how far the country has come in my own lifetime, having been born just outside of the Jim Crow era.Houhusky said:
Much to the chagrin of my conservative parents, growing up I was quiet the leftist...DerekJohnson said:
I've told this story before, but I was living in Seattle when she was first elected. When she was campaigning, I was talking to a neighbor of mine. She was like, "It is just so exciting to think we could elect a woman of Indian descent to such a prominent position!" And I said, "yeah, but have you heard some of the things she's saying? Sometimes she sounds almost crazy."hardhat said:I agree, but wonder how 22,000 people were stupid enough to vote for her. My home is not in her district and there were plenty of Sawant signs. This lady seems to have plenty of supporters.
The first thing that really caused me to examine my beliefs was Obama's election.
It was really eye opening when I heard my "non racist" friends saying similar racist stuff about Obama. About how exciting it was to vote for someone because they were black. Or how great it was that he was articulate and black... That type of open and socially acceptable racism really weirded me out.
Over the next few years the same "libertarian" friends that ranted about Bush being a war mongering, nazi, blood for oil, spying, authoritarian, dictator became some of the most vocal white knights for Obama...
The acceptable obvious racism and then political hypocrisy was the beginning of my path towards moderatism.
The Tug makes a living off of focusing on this other behavior and saying that's the real racism. I don't buy it, and this is where I get tagged with being a liberal. I've turned my view on classic "Uncle Tom" rhetoric; but this idea that people who are progressive and spend their time and energy pushing for more blacks and other minorities in this or that segment of society as being racist feels more like a poltical tactic.
And I've never known anyone who pushes a libertarian point of view who ever cheered for Obama just because he's black. That is the last group of people to do that sort of thing. They are all about the opposite of that mind-set. I would profer that those people are not libertarian. -
Had this very argument with one of the kids the other day after defunding. I challenged them, for the intellectual exercise, to rationalize for me the views of a woman who thinks everyone should have the same amount of everything also lives in fucking Leschi, where even a small "fixer upper", if there's one left, will cost well into 7 figures. How da fuck she live there?thechatch said:Sawant, who married into money, and lives 2 blocks from friends of mine, in a 2MM+ house in Leschi, sure likes to talk a LOT about taking other peoples money away.
Fuck her.
Of course, when you're in your early 20s and still on Daddy's payroll, you can't really internalize that it's still a big deal to live in a million $+ house. It just seems to happen by magic. -
"The Tug makes a living off of focusing on this other behavior and saying that's the real racism. I don't buy it, and this is where I get tagged with being a liberal. I've turned my view on classic "Uncle Tom" rhetoric; but this idea that people who are progressive and spend their time and energy pushing for more blacks and other minorities in this or that segment of society as being racist feels more like a poltical tactic."
I get the supposed feel good vibe and I don't think that supporting a qualified person of color is racist. I do believe that voting for someone based on their skin color and ignoring the fact that barry is an ant-American POS while telling me that he will be the smartest president evah is racist. I prefer that a person be judged on the quality of their character rather than skin color. Meanwhile, the very same people then demand that blacks think like black people and vote like black people are also racists. That includes Biden. -
I agree with all that except the racist part. Ignoring those things you list makes them stupid, not necessarily racist.WestlinnDuck said:"The Tug makes a living off of focusing on this other behavior and saying that's the real racism. I don't buy it, and this is where I get tagged with being a liberal. I've turned my view on classic "Uncle Tom" rhetoric; but this idea that people who are progressive and spend their time and energy pushing for more blacks and other minorities in this or that segment of society as being racist feels more like a poltical tactic."
I get the supposed feel good vibe and I don't think that supporting a qualified person of color is racist. I do believe that voting for someone based on their skin color and ignoring the fact that barry is an ant-American POS while telling me that he will be the smartest president evah is racist. I prefer that a person be judged on the quality of their character rather than skin color. Meanwhile, the very same people then demand that blacks think like black people and vote like black people are also racists. That includes Biden.
I get it. There is a line somewhere in this point of view where you wonder if the bleeding heart liberal doesn't really harbor a view that "these other people" need our help because they are fundamentally incapable of progressing without it. I know some of these supposed liberal do-gooders who make me wonder if they don't think they are fundamentally superior and are morally obligated to lend a helping hand. Some of those people, as a side note, are some of the worst bullies I've ever known. Worked with quite a few, and you really had to watch your backside with them.
I may be naive, but I think they are not representative. I think the average bleeding heart liberal, especially the kids (I see this at home now), just really buy in to this "but but slavery" bit and think that the lingering effects of that is the real problem and we need to do more to fix it. Those people are incredibly misguided, but I wouldn't call them racist.
I, too, prefer the person to be judged on character and qualifications. That said, I still felt good about Americans electing a black POTUS. It was historically significant. Some of his shortcomings were disappointing, but it still represented, to me, that America is a great country that is always trying to make itself better.
A very real and intellectually interesting question sits out there now: can a black conservative get elected, and if not, why? -
Tim Scott got elected in South Carolina. South mother fucking Carolina. I'd prefer the GOP run a black person. They are usually smarter and have more balls than the shitbag whites they keep running like Mitt Romney and 81% of all the rest of them.creepycoug said:
I agree with all that except the racist part. Ignoring those things you list makes them stupid, not necessarily racist.WestlinnDuck said:"The Tug makes a living off of focusing on this other behavior and saying that's the real racism. I don't buy it, and this is where I get tagged with being a liberal. I've turned my view on classic "Uncle Tom" rhetoric; but this idea that people who are progressive and spend their time and energy pushing for more blacks and other minorities in this or that segment of society as being racist feels more like a poltical tactic."
I get the supposed feel good vibe and I don't think that supporting a qualified person of color is racist. I do believe that voting for someone based on their skin color and ignoring the fact that barry is an ant-American POS while telling me that he will be the smartest president evah is racist. I prefer that a person be judged on the quality of their character rather than skin color. Meanwhile, the very same people then demand that blacks think like black people and vote like black people are also racists. That includes Biden.
I get it. There is a line somewhere in this point of view where you wonder if the bleeding heart liberal doesn't really harbor a view that "these other people" need our help because they are fundamentally incapable of progressing without it. I know some of these supposed liberal do-gooders who make me wonder if they don't think they are fundamentally superior and are morally obligated to lend a helping hand. Some of those people, as a side note, are some of the worst bullies I've ever known. Worked with quite a few, and you really had to watch your backside with them.
I may be naive, but I think they are not representative. I think the average bleeding heart liberal, especially the kids (I see this at home now), just really buy in to this "but but slavery" bit and think that the lingering effects of that is the real problem and we need to do more to fix it. Those people are incredibly misguided, but I wouldn't call them racist.
I, too, prefer the person to be judged on character and qualifications. That said, I still felt good about Americans electing a black POTUS. It was historically significant. Some of his shortcomings were disappointing, but it still represented, to me, that America is a great country that is always trying to make itself better.
A very real and intellectually interesting question sits out there now: can a black conservative get elected, and if not, why? -
Time Scott is a pretty impressive dude.Swaye said:
Tim Scott got elected in South Carolina. South mother fucking Carolina. I'd prefer the GOP run a black person. They are usually smarter and have more balls than the shitbag whites they keep running like Mitt Romney and 81% of all the rest of them.creepycoug said:
I agree with all that except the racist part. Ignoring those things you list makes them stupid, not necessarily racist.WestlinnDuck said:"The Tug makes a living off of focusing on this other behavior and saying that's the real racism. I don't buy it, and this is where I get tagged with being a liberal. I've turned my view on classic "Uncle Tom" rhetoric; but this idea that people who are progressive and spend their time and energy pushing for more blacks and other minorities in this or that segment of society as being racist feels more like a poltical tactic."
I get the supposed feel good vibe and I don't think that supporting a qualified person of color is racist. I do believe that voting for someone based on their skin color and ignoring the fact that barry is an ant-American POS while telling me that he will be the smartest president evah is racist. I prefer that a person be judged on the quality of their character rather than skin color. Meanwhile, the very same people then demand that blacks think like black people and vote like black people are also racists. That includes Biden.
I get it. There is a line somewhere in this point of view where you wonder if the bleeding heart liberal doesn't really harbor a view that "these other people" need our help because they are fundamentally incapable of progressing without it. I know some of these supposed liberal do-gooders who make me wonder if they don't think they are fundamentally superior and are morally obligated to lend a helping hand. Some of those people, as a side note, are some of the worst bullies I've ever known. Worked with quite a few, and you really had to watch your backside with them.
I may be naive, but I think they are not representative. I think the average bleeding heart liberal, especially the kids (I see this at home now), just really buy in to this "but but slavery" bit and think that the lingering effects of that is the real problem and we need to do more to fix it. Those people are incredibly misguided, but I wouldn't call them racist.
I, too, prefer the person to be judged on character and qualifications. That said, I still felt good about Americans electing a black POTUS. It was historically significant. Some of his shortcomings were disappointing, but it still represented, to me, that America is a great country that is always trying to make itself better.
A very real and intellectually interesting question sits out there now: can a black conservative get elected, and if not, why?
If you want serious ballbuster, look no further. Col. West makes sled look like a Jesuit.
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I love him.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Time Scott is a pretty impressive dude.Swaye said:
Tim Scott got elected in South Carolina. South mother fucking Carolina. I'd prefer the GOP run a black person. They are usually smarter and have more balls than the shitbag whites they keep running like Mitt Romney and 81% of all the rest of them.creepycoug said:
I agree with all that except the racist part. Ignoring those things you list makes them stupid, not necessarily racist.WestlinnDuck said:"The Tug makes a living off of focusing on this other behavior and saying that's the real racism. I don't buy it, and this is where I get tagged with being a liberal. I've turned my view on classic "Uncle Tom" rhetoric; but this idea that people who are progressive and spend their time and energy pushing for more blacks and other minorities in this or that segment of society as being racist feels more like a poltical tactic."
I get the supposed feel good vibe and I don't think that supporting a qualified person of color is racist. I do believe that voting for someone based on their skin color and ignoring the fact that barry is an ant-American POS while telling me that he will be the smartest president evah is racist. I prefer that a person be judged on the quality of their character rather than skin color. Meanwhile, the very same people then demand that blacks think like black people and vote like black people are also racists. That includes Biden.
I get it. There is a line somewhere in this point of view where you wonder if the bleeding heart liberal doesn't really harbor a view that "these other people" need our help because they are fundamentally incapable of progressing without it. I know some of these supposed liberal do-gooders who make me wonder if they don't think they are fundamentally superior and are morally obligated to lend a helping hand. Some of those people, as a side note, are some of the worst bullies I've ever known. Worked with quite a few, and you really had to watch your backside with them.
I may be naive, but I think they are not representative. I think the average bleeding heart liberal, especially the kids (I see this at home now), just really buy in to this "but but slavery" bit and think that the lingering effects of that is the real problem and we need to do more to fix it. Those people are incredibly misguided, but I wouldn't call them racist.
I, too, prefer the person to be judged on character and qualifications. That said, I still felt good about Americans electing a black POTUS. It was historically significant. Some of his shortcomings were disappointing, but it still represented, to me, that America is a great country that is always trying to make itself better.
A very real and intellectually interesting question sits out there now: can a black conservative get elected, and if not, why?
If you want serious ballbuster, look no further. Col. West makes sled look like a Jesuit. -
He might be the most conservative man in America.Swaye said:
I love him.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Time Scott is a pretty impressive dude.Swaye said:
Tim Scott got elected in South Carolina. South mother fucking Carolina. I'd prefer the GOP run a black person. They are usually smarter and have more balls than the shitbag whites they keep running like Mitt Romney and 81% of all the rest of them.creepycoug said:
I agree with all that except the racist part. Ignoring those things you list makes them stupid, not necessarily racist.WestlinnDuck said:"The Tug makes a living off of focusing on this other behavior and saying that's the real racism. I don't buy it, and this is where I get tagged with being a liberal. I've turned my view on classic "Uncle Tom" rhetoric; but this idea that people who are progressive and spend their time and energy pushing for more blacks and other minorities in this or that segment of society as being racist feels more like a poltical tactic."
I get the supposed feel good vibe and I don't think that supporting a qualified person of color is racist. I do believe that voting for someone based on their skin color and ignoring the fact that barry is an ant-American POS while telling me that he will be the smartest president evah is racist. I prefer that a person be judged on the quality of their character rather than skin color. Meanwhile, the very same people then demand that blacks think like black people and vote like black people are also racists. That includes Biden.
I get it. There is a line somewhere in this point of view where you wonder if the bleeding heart liberal doesn't really harbor a view that "these other people" need our help because they are fundamentally incapable of progressing without it. I know some of these supposed liberal do-gooders who make me wonder if they don't think they are fundamentally superior and are morally obligated to lend a helping hand. Some of those people, as a side note, are some of the worst bullies I've ever known. Worked with quite a few, and you really had to watch your backside with them.
I may be naive, but I think they are not representative. I think the average bleeding heart liberal, especially the kids (I see this at home now), just really buy in to this "but but slavery" bit and think that the lingering effects of that is the real problem and we need to do more to fix it. Those people are incredibly misguided, but I wouldn't call them racist.
I, too, prefer the person to be judged on character and qualifications. That said, I still felt good about Americans electing a black POTUS. It was historically significant. Some of his shortcomings were disappointing, but it still represented, to me, that America is a great country that is always trying to make itself better.
A very real and intellectually interesting question sits out there now: can a black conservative get elected, and if not, why?
If you want serious ballbuster, look no further. Col. West makes sled look like a Jesuit.
