A key difference between Don James and Chris Peterman
Some of us thought Pete was having that moment with Tedford, but after Tedford left Pete went back to shitting the bed offensively.
Peterman could have burned out in style with multiple Rose Bowl titles
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Someone out there will read this and go "god what an idiot, he doesn't even know Chris Petersen's name!!1!!"
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They both quit though.
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you've quit HH a couple times.GrundleStiltzkin said:They both quit though.
Even had Gladstone texting me to go search the morgues -
True, I've oft been dubbed the Don James of these Boreds.DerekJohnson said:
you've quit HH a couple times.GrundleStiltzkin said:They both quit though.
Even had Gladstone texting me to go search the morgues -
There are two stories on James quitting. One is that he told his bosses he would quit if UW ever got put on probation. The other is that he gave an ultimatum on taking a TV ban not a bowl ban but the admin kept the TV and took the bowl
At any rate quitting with two national championships and a 4-2 NY Day bowl record > quitting -
According to Coach James it was the boldfaced part above plus he was furious that Gerberding told the Pac-10 he was fine with the 2-year bowl ban, whereas Coach James would have accepted the one-year bowl ban. He told Barbara Hedges to tell Gerberding that if he didn't support them better than that, he would resign. The next morning, Barbara called James and said Gerberding wouldn't be at the meeting because he had left town. So James became pissed off and promptly resigned.RaceBannon said:There are two stories on James quitting. One is that he told his bosses he would quit if UW ever got put on probation. The other is that he gave an ultimatum on taking a TV ban not a bowl ban but the admin kept the TV and took the bowl
At any rate quitting with two national championships and a 4-2 NY Day bowl record > quitting
Actually, July 20 will mark the 16th anniversary of my interview with him in the Don James Center, when we talked about all that. Time flies. -
A key difference between Don James and Prickly Pete...
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Look at the crowd's social distancing. Pete was a pre-pandemic trendsetter.RaceBannon said:
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Pete could have been better than James if he wanted to. He just didn’t have the fire in his belly. Guess getting paid like 10 times what James did adjusted for inflation will do that to a man.
Pete had his boot on Oregon’s throat and he let them off. -
Pete could have gone on a better run than any we've had but he didn'tYellowSnow said:Pete could have been better than James if he wanted to. He just didn’t have the fire in his belly. Guess getting paid like 10 times what James did adjusted for inflation will do that to a man.
Pete had his boot on Oregon’s throat and he let them off.
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You can take the boy out of Boise State, but...RaceBannon said:
Pete could have gone on a better run than any we've had but he didn'tYellowSnow said:Pete could have been better than James if he wanted to. He just didn’t have the fire in his belly. Guess getting paid like 10 times what James did adjusted for inflation will do that to a man.
Pete had his boot on Oregon’s throat and he let them off.
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Nothing sadder than wasted potential. 2016 was a brilliant campaign that should have just been the beginning.RaceBannon said:
Pete could have gone on a better run than any we've had but he didn'tYellowSnow said:Pete could have been better than James if he wanted to. He just didn’t have the fire in his belly. Guess getting paid like 10 times what James did adjusted for inflation will do that to a man.
Pete had his boot on Oregon’s throat and he let them off.
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FTFYRaceBannon said:There are two stories on James quitting. One is that he told his bosses he would quit if UW ever got put on probation. The other is that he gave an ultimatum on taking a TV ban not a bowl ban but the admin kept the TV and took the bowl
At any rate quitting with two half mythical national championships and a 4-2 NY Day bowl record > quitting -
Go coogsBennyBeaver said:
FTFYRaceBannon said:There are two stories on James quitting. One is that he told his bosses he would quit if UW ever got put on probation. The other is that he gave an ultimatum on taking a TV ban not a bowl ban but the admin kept the TV and took the bowl
At any rate quitting with two half mythical national championships and a 4-2 NY Day bowl record > quitting -
Upper Campus made James quit.
Mario Cristobal made Chris Petersen quit.
James just quit with 4 NYD bow trophies and half a NC behind the glass.
Petersen quit with...I honestly don’t even remember...
That said, Petersen is the 2nd best head coach in the last 50 years at UW, just ahead of Rick, who was basically an upgraded version of Sark. -
Isn't it conventional wisdom at this point that Marlon, Togiai, Asa, Puka and that Asian trap made Petersen quit?
Having to go HARD on recruiting kids who are getting hoodwinked, pimped out by their HS coaches, razzle-dazzled, and who are ultimately not as bought into OKG/B4L as he probably thought they were. -
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Isn't it conventional wisdom at this point that Marlon, Togiai, Asa, Puka and that Asian trap made Petersen quit?
Having to go HARD on recruiting kids who are getting hoodwinked, pimped out by their HS coaches, razzle-dazzled, and who are ultimately not as bought into OKG/B4L as he probably thought they were.
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I don’t think he likes it, but he was a coach for 25 years. It does seem possible to simply be sick of doing the same thing for 25 years and getting very little time off. It’s not like he needs the job either. He likely has plenty of money.justthrowitinthebag said:Emoterman said:Isn't it conventional wisdom at this point that Marlon, Togiai, Asa, Puka and that Asian trap made Petersen quit?
Having to go HARD on recruiting kids who are getting hoodwinked, pimped out by their HS coaches, razzle-dazzled, and who are ultimately not as bought into OKG/B4L as he probably thought they were.
Yup that’s my feeling as well. He hates that kinda stuff and is way too earnest for it.
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I'd say theres about a HALF a difference between DJ and CP, '84 not withstanding. I don't know what not withstanding means but I think it means what I think it means.
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Start of Seattle pussyficationDerekJohnson said:
According to Coach James it was the boldfaced part above plus he was furious that Gerberding told the Pac-10 he was fine with the 2-year bowl ban, whereas Coach James would have accepted the one-year bowl ban. He told Barbara Hedges to tell Gerberding that if he didn't support them better than that, he would resign. The next morning, Barbara called James and said Gerberding wouldn't be at the meeting because he had left town. So James became pissed off and promptly resigned.RaceBannon said:There are two stories on James quitting. One is that he told his bosses he would quit if UW ever got put on probation. The other is that he gave an ultimatum on taking a TV ban not a bowl ban but the admin kept the TV and took the bowl
At any rate quitting with two national championships and a 4-2 NY Day bowl record > quitting
Actually, July 20 will mark the 16th anniversary of my interview with him in the Don James Center, when we talked about all that. Time flies. -
Rick was better. Simple fact. Basically the same win % and a RB win. Also more fun.thechatch said:Upper Campus made James quit.
Mario Cristobal made Chris Petersen quit.
James just quit with 4 NYD bow trophies and half a NC behind the glass.
Petersen quit with...I honestly don’t even remember...
That said, Petersen is the 2nd best head coach in the last 50 years at UW, just ahead of Rick, who was basically an upgraded version of Sark.
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This is a joke, right? I'm on bored with all of the pointing out of Pete's fault, but Rick was in the process of getting outed as a pisspoor coach before the whole gambling thing kind of saved his ass from further embarrassment. His time at UCLA showed he was a below-average coach at best who caught lightning in a bottle in 2000. Was also an overrated recruiter who loved signing guys who were overrated by the ranking systems but weren't actually that good. My hope/theory is that Cristobal is Oregon's Neuheisel. Records/accomplishments in first two seasons mirror almost exact and (possibly up until this year) our friend Cristobal has made a killing signing a lot of 4 stars no one is dying for (though with a few legit 5 stars). The rah rah, we're only getting started, the players love me stuff generally works for about 2-3 years too unless you're Pete Carroll, though Cristo seems like a hard ass on his assistants while I think Rick was aloof which bolds well for Oregon.
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@DongJames never coached at whOregon (“lol”).
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lolMikeDamone said:
Rick was better. Simple fact. Basically the same win % and a RB win. Also more fun.thechatch said:Upper Campus made James quit.
Mario Cristobal made Chris Petersen quit.
James just quit with 4 NYD bow trophies and half a NC behind the glass.
Petersen quit with...I honestly don’t even remember...
That said, Petersen is the 2nd best head coach in the last 50 years at UW, just ahead of Rick, who was basically an upgraded version of Sark.
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He had they same winning % as Petersen and didn't mail in the rose bowl. He won it. Petersen never caught lightening in a bottle, so there is that.WoolleyDoog said:This is a joke, right? I'm on bored with all of the pointing out of Pete's fault, but Rick was in the process of getting outed as a pisspoor coach before the whole gambling thing kind of saved his ass from further embarrassment. His time at UCLA showed he was a below-average coach at best who caught lightning in a bottle in 2000. Was also an overrated recruiter who loved signing guys who were overrated by the ranking systems but weren't actually that good. My hope/theory is that Cristobal is Oregon's Neuheisel. Records/accomplishments in first two seasons mirror almost exact and (possibly up until this year) our friend Cristobal has made a killing signing a lot of 4 stars no one is dying for (though with a few legit 5 stars). The rah rah, we're only getting started, the players love me stuff generally works for about 2-3 years too unless you're Pete Carroll, though Cristo seems like a hard ass on his assistants while I think Rick was aloof which bolds well for Oregon.
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I'll agree the gap between Pete and Neu might not be as big as most would assume. Pete definitely wins that Rose Bowl against Drew Brees and the dwarves though. I admit there's some nuance too though.
Pete's team definitely gets their bell rung by Miami in 2000 - get's down early and looks totally outclassed the way they did against any really good team and then we have to just say they were too good to beat for eternity. They rally to make it a 14-point loss or something though.
A Pete team probably doesn't get embarrassed as bad as Neu's did at Miami the next year though, but who really gives a shit.
Pete caught lightning in 2016.
