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If I know my history of corrupt police and sheriffs, and I do because I watched Porky’s approximately 81 times as a middle-schooler, things might actually be slightly better now.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Very good book, eye opening for me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_of_the_Warrior_Cop -
Strictly in terms on SWAT usage, it's grown and continues to grow.NorthwestFresh said:
If I know my history of corrupt police and sheriffs, and I do because I watched Porky’s approximately 81 times as a middle-schooler, things might actually be slightly better now.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Very good book, eye opening for me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_of_the_Warrior_Cop -
Yeah but those are just facts. My opinion matters more.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Strictly in terms on SWAT usage, it's grown and continues to grow.NorthwestFresh said:
If I know my history of corrupt police and sheriffs, and I do because I watched Porky’s approximately 81 times as a middle-schooler, things might actually be slightly better now.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Very good book, eye opening for me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_of_the_Warrior_Cop -
North Hollywood bank robbery shootout was a classic. The regular cops were outgunned
https://youtu.be/I_1IvZFwj0M
But we tend to Gulf of Tonkin shit where all of a sudden we have 500,000 troops on the ground -
If you’re going to commit Suicide by Cop, that’s how you commit Suicide by Cop. World Champions.RaceBannon said:North Hollywood bank robbery shootout was a classic. The regular cops were outgunned
https://youtu.be/I_1IvZFwj0M
But we tend to Gulf of Tonkin shit where all of a sudden we have 500,000 troops on the ground -
NorthwestFresh said:
Curious as to when I said a law degree was a requirement for the FBI?trublue said:
The answer is yes.NorthwestFresh said:
Asking because I don’t really know. Do local SWAT units serve federal warrants? I thought that was US Marshall and/or FBI.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
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That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind.
Marshal’s execute arrest warrants and have fugitive teams that locate and arrest wanted folks.
It depends . . . In Portland and Seattle, they have SWAT teams for the PD’s and the FBI (in each office).
SWAT teams are utilized in very high-risk warrants and ongoing violent/potentially violent situations (hostage situations, active shooter, etc.)
It is not necessary to have a federal agency execute a federal search warrant. All that’s necessary is that the affiant on the Affidavit for the warrant is a federal agent.
Local SWAT teams, although occasionally used by the Feds, generally are the go-to guys.
During my 25-year career in Portland, the FBI SWAT team was never used by my office.
A special shout-out to Mr. Hands Up, Don’t Shoot: FY HH!!!
BTW: A law degree is STILL NOT a requirement to be a FBI agent as you once believed.NorthwestFresh said:
Curious as to when I said a law degree was a requirement for the FBI?trublue said:
The answer is yes.NorthwestFresh said:
Asking because I don’t really know. Do local SWAT units serve federal warrants? I thought that was US Marshall and/or FBI.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
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That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind.
Marshal’s execute arrest warrants and have fugitive teams that locate and arrest wanted folks.
It depends . . . In Portland and Seattle, they have SWAT teams for the PD’s and the FBI (in each office).
SWAT teams are utilized in very high-risk warrants and ongoing violent/potentially violent situations (hostage situations, active shooter, etc.)
It is not necessary to have a federal agency execute a federal search warrant. All that’s necessary is that the affiant on the Affidavit for the warrant is a federal agent.
Local SWAT teams, although occasionally used by the Feds, generally are the go-to guys.
During my 25-year career in Portland, the FBI SWAT team was never used by my office.
A special shout-out to Mr. Hands Up, Don’t Shoot: FY HH!!!
BTW: A law degree is STILL NOT a requirement to be a FBI agent as you once believed.
That was HH, the imbecile with the law degree and MBA from UW; the old guy who is always insulting the elderly.NorthwestFresh said:
Curious as to when I said a law degree was a requirement for the FBI?trublue said:
The answer is yes.NorthwestFresh said:
Asking because I don’t really know. Do local SWAT units serve federal warrants? I thought that was US Marshall and/or FBI.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-
That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind.
Marshal’s execute arrest warrants and have fugitive teams that locate and arrest wanted folks.
It depends . . . In Portland and Seattle, they have SWAT teams for the PD’s and the FBI (in each office).
SWAT teams are utilized in very high-risk warrants and ongoing violent/potentially violent situations (hostage situations, active shooter, etc.)
It is not necessary to have a federal agency execute a federal search warrant. All that’s necessary is that the affiant on the Affidavit for the warrant is a federal agent.
Local SWAT teams, although occasionally used by the Feds, generally are the go-to guys.
During my 25-year career in Portland, the FBI SWAT team was never used by my office.
A special shout-out to Mr. Hands Up, Don’t Shoot: FY HH!!!
BTW: A law degree is STILL NOT a requirement to be a FBI agent as you once believed.
Sorry, I didn’t make that clear.
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These are token SWAT teams and I will never defend them.GrundleStiltzkin said:National Aeronautic and Space Administration
Emergency Response Team (ERT): ERT’s primary duties consist of a variety of disciplines including, but not limited to, mobile security patrols, investigations, traffic enforcement, and physical security duties/responsibilities. The specialized teams constitute and operate in the event of a high-risk situation.
National Institutes of HealthSpecial Response Team (SRT): The SRT’s mission is to protect the NIH community from internal threats, such as active shooters, and external threats from domestic or foreign terrorists. The SRT is trained in tactics optimized to neutralize threats to Select Agent storage areas, irradiators, patient clinics, and laboratories. The SRT also provides dignitary protection during presidential, congressional, and foreign heads of state visits.
US Dept of EducationAdd the U.S. Department of Education to the list of federal agencies that can invade your home at gunpoint and hold you and your family in custody for hours.
Kenneth Wright learned this the hard way last week, when federal "education" agents busted down the front door of his Stockton, Calif., home at 6 in the morning.
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"They surrounded the house; it was like a task force or SWAT team," a neighbor told a national news affiliate. "They all had guns. They dragged him out in his boxer shorts, threw him to the ground and handcuffed him."
Wright's terrified children -- ages 3, 9 and 11 -- were forced to sit in a patrol car for two hours. Wright himself was in custody for six hours. "I felt really bad for those kids," a neighbor said.
Federal agents for the Education Department's inspector general executed a very broad search warrant and seized paperwork and a personal computer. Wright says the law enforcement agents -- who reportedly included 13 with the Education Department and one or two Stockton police officers -- told him they were investigating his estranged wife's use of federal aid for students. But she doesn't even live in his house.
A federal spokesman tried to distance the Education Department from the raid by emphasizing that the IG runs a "semi-independent office." But that begs the question of why a federal agency overseeing education policy should have an IG who can send agents armed with guns into Americans' homes. Or why the department has SWAT-style teams of agents to begin with.
Amtrak Office of Security Strategy and Special OperationsMembers of the Special Operations Unit (SOU) support Patrol operations by providing rapid response and enhanced capabilities to assist in keeping Amtrak passengers and employees safe.
United States Mint Police (USMP) Special Response Teams (SRT)
United States Park Police (USPP) SWAT Team
SWAT teams that have adequate resources, train constantly and are deployed on a “regular” basis are needed.
Federal SWAT teams of smaller agencies are a joke.
Example: ATF in initial Waco raid; and ATF is not a small agency.
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Sooooooooooooo, you're saying a lot of these guys are not well-trained, but like to play dress-up and act like cowboys? Just want to be clear, here. Don't want to split hairs.trublue said:
These are token SWAT teams and I will never defend them.GrundleStiltzkin said:National Aeronautic and Space Administration
Emergency Response Team (ERT): ERT’s primary duties consist of a variety of disciplines including, but not limited to, mobile security patrols, investigations, traffic enforcement, and physical security duties/responsibilities. The specialized teams constitute and operate in the event of a high-risk situation.
National Institutes of HealthSpecial Response Team (SRT): The SRT’s mission is to protect the NIH community from internal threats, such as active shooters, and external threats from domestic or foreign terrorists. The SRT is trained in tactics optimized to neutralize threats to Select Agent storage areas, irradiators, patient clinics, and laboratories. The SRT also provides dignitary protection during presidential, congressional, and foreign heads of state visits.
US Dept of EducationAdd the U.S. Department of Education to the list of federal agencies that can invade your home at gunpoint and hold you and your family in custody for hours.
Kenneth Wright learned this the hard way last week, when federal "education" agents busted down the front door of his Stockton, Calif., home at 6 in the morning.
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"They surrounded the house; it was like a task force or SWAT team," a neighbor told a national news affiliate. "They all had guns. They dragged him out in his boxer shorts, threw him to the ground and handcuffed him."
Wright's terrified children -- ages 3, 9 and 11 -- were forced to sit in a patrol car for two hours. Wright himself was in custody for six hours. "I felt really bad for those kids," a neighbor said.
Federal agents for the Education Department's inspector general executed a very broad search warrant and seized paperwork and a personal computer. Wright says the law enforcement agents -- who reportedly included 13 with the Education Department and one or two Stockton police officers -- told him they were investigating his estranged wife's use of federal aid for students. But she doesn't even live in his house.
A federal spokesman tried to distance the Education Department from the raid by emphasizing that the IG runs a "semi-independent office." But that begs the question of why a federal agency overseeing education policy should have an IG who can send agents armed with guns into Americans' homes. Or why the department has SWAT-style teams of agents to begin with.
Amtrak Office of Security Strategy and Special OperationsMembers of the Special Operations Unit (SOU) support Patrol operations by providing rapid response and enhanced capabilities to assist in keeping Amtrak passengers and employees safe.
United States Mint Police (USMP) Special Response Teams (SRT)
United States Park Police (USPP) SWAT Team
SWAT teams that have adequate resources, train constantly and are deployed on a “regular” basis are needed.
Federal SWAT teams of smaller agencies are a joke.
Example: ATF in initial Waco raid; and ATF is not a small agency. -
Yes. Armored vehicles are free from the military. They've been used in many stand offs and to conduct rescues in active situations.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-
That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind.
Barricaded suspects especially with hostages are where SWAT teams are really needed. Hard to replace. Lots of training and experience counts.
They're not soldiers. When we got mixed up in the middle east the military came to SWAT teams to learn their tactics and skills. The military is used to brute force to solve problems and that wasn't acceptable.
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TurdBomber said:
Sooooooooooooo, you're saying a lot of these guys are not well-trained, but like to play dress-up and act like cowboys? Just want to be clear, here. Don't want to split hairs.trublue said:
These are token SWAT teams and I will never defend them.GrundleStiltzkin said:National Aeronautic and Space Administration
Emergency Response Team (ERT): ERT’s primary duties consist of a variety of disciplines including, but not limited to, mobile security patrols, investigations, traffic enforcement, and physical security duties/responsibilities. The specialized teams constitute and operate in the event of a high-risk situation.
National Institutes of HealthSpecial Response Team (SRT): The SRT’s mission is to protect the NIH community from internal threats, such as active shooters, and external threats from domestic or foreign terrorists. The SRT is trained in tactics optimized to neutralize threats to Select Agent storage areas, irradiators, patient clinics, and laboratories. The SRT also provides dignitary protection during presidential, congressional, and foreign heads of state visits.
US Dept of EducationAdd the U.S. Department of Education to the list of federal agencies that can invade your home at gunpoint and hold you and your family in custody for hours.
Kenneth Wright learned this the hard way last week, when federal "education" agents busted down the front door of his Stockton, Calif., home at 6 in the morning.
Get exclusive insider information from Heritage experts delivered straight to your inbox each week. Subscribe to The Agenda >>
"They surrounded the house; it was like a task force or SWAT team," a neighbor told a national news affiliate. "They all had guns. They dragged him out in his boxer shorts, threw him to the ground and handcuffed him."
Wright's terrified children -- ages 3, 9 and 11 -- were forced to sit in a patrol car for two hours. Wright himself was in custody for six hours. "I felt really bad for those kids," a neighbor said.
Federal agents for the Education Department's inspector general executed a very broad search warrant and seized paperwork and a personal computer. Wright says the law enforcement agents -- who reportedly included 13 with the Education Department and one or two Stockton police officers -- told him they were investigating his estranged wife's use of federal aid for students. But she doesn't even live in his house.
A federal spokesman tried to distance the Education Department from the raid by emphasizing that the IG runs a "semi-independent office." But that begs the question of why a federal agency overseeing education policy should have an IG who can send agents armed with guns into Americans' homes. Or why the department has SWAT-style teams of agents to begin with.
Amtrak Office of Security Strategy and Special OperationsMembers of the Special Operations Unit (SOU) support Patrol operations by providing rapid response and enhanced capabilities to assist in keeping Amtrak passengers and employees safe.
United States Mint Police (USMP) Special Response Teams (SRT)
United States Park Police (USPP) SWAT Team
SWAT teams that have adequate resources, train constantly and are deployed on a “regular” basis are needed.
Federal SWAT teams of smaller agencies are a joke.
Example: ATF in initial Waco raid; and ATF is not a small agency.TurdBomber said:
Sooooooooooooo, you're saying a lot of these guys are not well-trained, but like to play dress-up and act like cowboys? Just want to be clear, here. Don't want to split hairs.trublue said:
These are token SWAT teams and I will never defend them.GrundleStiltzkin said:National Aeronautic and Space Administration
Emergency Response Team (ERT): ERT’s primary duties consist of a variety of disciplines including, but not limited to, mobile security patrols, investigations, traffic enforcement, and physical security duties/responsibilities. The specialized teams constitute and operate in the event of a high-risk situation.
National Institutes of HealthSpecial Response Team (SRT): The SRT’s mission is to protect the NIH community from internal threats, such as active shooters, and external threats from domestic or foreign terrorists. The SRT is trained in tactics optimized to neutralize threats to Select Agent storage areas, irradiators, patient clinics, and laboratories. The SRT also provides dignitary protection during presidential, congressional, and foreign heads of state visits.
US Dept of EducationAdd the U.S. Department of Education to the list of federal agencies that can invade your home at gunpoint and hold you and your family in custody for hours.
Kenneth Wright learned this the hard way last week, when federal "education" agents busted down the front door of his Stockton, Calif., home at 6 in the morning.
Get exclusive insider information from Heritage experts delivered straight to your inbox each week. Subscribe to The Agenda >>
"They surrounded the house; it was like a task force or SWAT team," a neighbor told a national news affiliate. "They all had guns. They dragged him out in his boxer shorts, threw him to the ground and handcuffed him."
Wright's terrified children -- ages 3, 9 and 11 -- were forced to sit in a patrol car for two hours. Wright himself was in custody for six hours. "I felt really bad for those kids," a neighbor said.
Federal agents for the Education Department's inspector general executed a very broad search warrant and seized paperwork and a personal computer. Wright says the law enforcement agents -- who reportedly included 13 with the Education Department and one or two Stockton police officers -- told him they were investigating his estranged wife's use of federal aid for students. But she doesn't even live in his house.
A federal spokesman tried to distance the Education Department from the raid by emphasizing that the IG runs a "semi-independent office." But that begs the question of why a federal agency overseeing education policy should have an IG who can send agents armed with guns into Americans' homes. Or why the department has SWAT-style teams of agents to begin with.
Amtrak Office of Security Strategy and Special OperationsMembers of the Special Operations Unit (SOU) support Patrol operations by providing rapid response and enhanced capabilities to assist in keeping Amtrak passengers and employees safe.
United States Mint Police (USMP) Special Response Teams (SRT)
United States Park Police (USPP) SWAT Team
SWAT teams that have adequate resources, train constantly and are deployed on a “regular” basis are needed.
Federal SWAT teams of smaller agencies are a joke.
Example: ATF in initial Waco raid; and ATF is not a small agency.
Congratulations, Counselor, you can read and interpret written information.TurdBomber said:
Sooooooooooooo, you're saying a lot of these guys are not well-trained, but like to play dress-up and act like cowboys? Just want to be clear, here. Don't want to split hairs.trublue said:
These are token SWAT teams and I will never defend them.GrundleStiltzkin said:National Aeronautic and Space Administration
Emergency Response Team (ERT): ERT’s primary duties consist of a variety of disciplines including, but not limited to, mobile security patrols, investigations, traffic enforcement, and physical security duties/responsibilities. The specialized teams constitute and operate in the event of a high-risk situation.
National Institutes of HealthSpecial Response Team (SRT): The SRT’s mission is to protect the NIH community from internal threats, such as active shooters, and external threats from domestic or foreign terrorists. The SRT is trained in tactics optimized to neutralize threats to Select Agent storage areas, irradiators, patient clinics, and laboratories. The SRT also provides dignitary protection during presidential, congressional, and foreign heads of state visits.
US Dept of EducationAdd the U.S. Department of Education to the list of federal agencies that can invade your home at gunpoint and hold you and your family in custody for hours.
Kenneth Wright learned this the hard way last week, when federal "education" agents busted down the front door of his Stockton, Calif., home at 6 in the morning.
Get exclusive insider information from Heritage experts delivered straight to your inbox each week. Subscribe to The Agenda >>
"They surrounded the house; it was like a task force or SWAT team," a neighbor told a national news affiliate. "They all had guns. They dragged him out in his boxer shorts, threw him to the ground and handcuffed him."
Wright's terrified children -- ages 3, 9 and 11 -- were forced to sit in a patrol car for two hours. Wright himself was in custody for six hours. "I felt really bad for those kids," a neighbor said.
Federal agents for the Education Department's inspector general executed a very broad search warrant and seized paperwork and a personal computer. Wright says the law enforcement agents -- who reportedly included 13 with the Education Department and one or two Stockton police officers -- told him they were investigating his estranged wife's use of federal aid for students. But she doesn't even live in his house.
A federal spokesman tried to distance the Education Department from the raid by emphasizing that the IG runs a "semi-independent office." But that begs the question of why a federal agency overseeing education policy should have an IG who can send agents armed with guns into Americans' homes. Or why the department has SWAT-style teams of agents to begin with.
Amtrak Office of Security Strategy and Special OperationsMembers of the Special Operations Unit (SOU) support Patrol operations by providing rapid response and enhanced capabilities to assist in keeping Amtrak passengers and employees safe.
United States Mint Police (USMP) Special Response Teams (SRT)
United States Park Police (USPP) SWAT Team
SWAT teams that have adequate resources, train constantly and are deployed on a “regular” basis are needed.
Federal SWAT teams of smaller agencies are a joke.
Example: ATF in initial Waco raid; and ATF is not a small agency.
That’s more than most federal agents (with law degrees) that I worked with were capable of.
Your denigration of the intelligence and competence of police officers in general (earlier in the thread) was duly noted. -
Post better, @trublue. This isn't the Civil Service. Mediocrity isn't rewarded here.
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If only I could have aspired to be sorry assed legal eagle, slurping from the trough.
Fuck off, Counselor.
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Counselor? Okay.trublue said:If only I could have aspired to be sorry assed legal eagle, slurping from the trough.
Fuck off, Counselor.
You think this shit requires brilliance? Maybe that's your problem.
Along with thin skin and absurd self-righteousness.
You know, the stuff that keeps getting you guys in trouble. -
No. Too Boring. Like the rest of what you post.trublue said:
Was the question too tough, Counselor?TurdBomber said:
Are you a prototypical High School loser dick who became a cop to take his revenge upon the society that rejected him?trublue said:PurpleThrobber said:
What is the basis for your opinions? e.g., “And if you can fog a mirror, you’ll get a warrant . . . Some cops are too stupid to proofread their reports . . .”TurdBomber said:
Highly Trained? Bullshit. And if you can fog a mirror you'll get a warrant.trublue said:
Educate yourself . . . Swat teams vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction . . . Swat teams are highly trained and used only in special circumstances that are supposed to be justified (articulated) prior to execution of the subject search/arrest warrant.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-
That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind.
Execution of the vast majority of arrest/search warrants DO NOT involve SWAT teams.
There are so many stupid fucking cowboy cops in SPD it's a decades-long joke of a department. Most hate the City and treat citizens like dirt. And they lie like rugs, make up total bullshit on the fly "This is Private Property" they'll yell while standing on a City Sidewalk or County Property, and the list goes on and on. I've read the same fucking police reports with the exact same "observations" a hundred times. Some cops are too stupid to even proofread their reports after sitting on their asses collecting overtime, probably while watching porn.
Despite all of the above, I support cops because their job is a fucking dumpster fire, and I do sympathize. But don't pretend for a second they are heroes, or follow the law, because I know better. There are too many power-hungry dicks on the force and they've brought much of this present shit show upon themselves.
BTW: I said SWAT teams are highly trained, not all police.
You sound very sympathetic in paragraph 2 of your diatribe.
Are you a defense attorney? -
TurdBomber said:
Counselor? Okay.trublue said:If only I could have aspired to be sorry assed legal eagle, slurping from the trough.
Fuck off, Counselor.
You think this shit requires brilliance? Maybe that's your problem.
Along with thin skin and absurd self-righteousness.
You know, the stuff that keeps getting you guys in trouble.TurdBomber said:
Being a defense attorney doesn’t require “brilliance” . . . It’s bottom of the barrel shit, often civil service.trublue said:If only I could have aspired to be sorry assed legal eagle, slurping from the trough.
Fuck off, Counselor.
Instead of being a TurdBomber, perhaps ShitSlinger would be a more appropriate moniker for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFijg_Tnn7M