Some of the things the city of Seattle is considering cutting out of the police budget...
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
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Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-
That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind. -
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-
That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind. -
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-
That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind. -
I'm sure those are warrants for failure to appear for soccer moms dui. Swat serves warrants for the dangerous criminals. Especially in this kill cop climate serving warrants can be anything but routine so I say yes in fact we do need them to serve warrants.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-
That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind. -
Or shut off the power and water. Didn't anyone see Malcolm X?Ice_Holmvik said:
I'm sure those are warrants for failure to appear for soccer moms dui. Swat serves warrants for the dangerous criminals. Especially in this kill cop climate serving warrants can be anything but routine so I say yes in fact we do need them to serve warrants.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-
That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind. -
Educate yourself . . . Swat teams vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction . . . Swat teams are highly trained and used only in special circumstances that are supposed to be justified (articulated) prior to execution of the subject search/arrest warrant.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-
That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind.
Execution of the vast majority of arrest/search warrants DO NOT involve SWAT teams.
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Highly Trained? Bullshit. And if you can fog a mirror you'll get a warrant.trublue said:
Educate yourself . . . Swat teams vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction . . . Swat teams are highly trained and used only in special circumstances that are supposed to be justified (articulated) prior to execution of the subject search/arrest warrant.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-
That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind.
Execution of the vast majority of arrest/search warrants DO NOT involve SWAT teams.
There are so many stupid fucking cowboy cops in SPD it's a decades-long joke of a department. Most hate the City and treat citizens like dirt. And they lie like rugs, make up total bullshit on the fly "This is Private Property" they'll yell while standing on a City Sidewalk or County Property, and the list goes on and on. I've read the same fucking police reports with the exact same "observations" a hundred times. Some cops are too stupid to even proofread their reports after sitting on their asses collecting overtime, probably while watching porn.
Despite all of the above, I support cops because their job is a fucking dumpster fire, and I do sympathize. But don't pretend for a second they are heroes, or follow the law, because I know better. There are too many power-hungry dicks on the force and they've brought much of this present shit show upon themselves. -
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SWAT certainly needs changes.
https://www.vox.com/2014/10/29/7083371/swat-no-knock-raids-police-killed-civilians-dangerous-work-drugs -
I’m sure Vox and the ACLU address this issue in a fair and balanced manner. I don’t believe a word they say in this article unless it is accompanied with a citation.MikeDamone said:SWAT certainly needs changes.
https://www.vox.com/2014/10/29/7083371/swat-no-knock-raids-police-killed-civilians-dangerous-work-drugs
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Asking because I don’t really know. Do local SWAT units serve federal warrants? I thought that was US Marshall and/or FBI.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-
That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind. -
TurdBomber said:
Highly Trained? Bullshit. And if you can fog a mirror you'll get a warrant.trublue said:
Educate yourself . . . Swat teams vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction . . . Swat teams are highly trained and used only in special circumstances that are supposed to be justified (articulated) prior to execution of the subject search/arrest warrant.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-
That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind.
Execution of the vast majority of arrest/search warrants DO NOT involve SWAT teams.
There are so many stupid fucking cowboy cops in SPD it's a decades-long joke of a department. Most hate the City and treat citizens like dirt. And they lie like rugs, make up total bullshit on the fly "This is Private Property" they'll yell while standing on a City Sidewalk or County Property, and the list goes on and on. I've read the same fucking police reports with the exact same "observations" a hundred times. Some cops are too stupid to even proofread their reports after sitting on their asses collecting overtime, probably while watching porn.
Despite all of the above, I support cops because their job is a fucking dumpster fire, and I do sympathize. But don't pretend for a second they are heroes, or follow the law, because I know better. There are too many power-hungry dicks on the force and they've brought much of this present shit show upon themselves.In his book "Rise of the Warrior Cop," Radley Balko recounts the rise of police SWAT teams (SWAT stands for Special Weapons And Tactics) armed with heavy military equipment. SWAT raids began as rarely used methods of dealing with violent situations, like hostage-takings.
But government always grows.
In the 1970s, there were about 300 SWAT raids per year. "As of 2005," says Balko, "100 to 150 per day."
What began as a few specialized groups of police trained to address genuine threats to safety has degenerated into small armies descending on organic farms where farmers sell unpasteurized milk and legal medical marijuana dispensaries getting raided as if they were heavily armed threats. -
PurpleThrobber said:
What is the basis for your opinions? e.g., “And if you can fog a mirror, you’ll get a warrant . . . Some cops are too stupid to proofread their reports . . .”TurdBomber said:
Highly Trained? Bullshit. And if you can fog a mirror you'll get a warrant.trublue said:
Educate yourself . . . Swat teams vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction . . . Swat teams are highly trained and used only in special circumstances that are supposed to be justified (articulated) prior to execution of the subject search/arrest warrant.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-
That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind.
Execution of the vast majority of arrest/search warrants DO NOT involve SWAT teams.
There are so many stupid fucking cowboy cops in SPD it's a decades-long joke of a department. Most hate the City and treat citizens like dirt. And they lie like rugs, make up total bullshit on the fly "This is Private Property" they'll yell while standing on a City Sidewalk or County Property, and the list goes on and on. I've read the same fucking police reports with the exact same "observations" a hundred times. Some cops are too stupid to even proofread their reports after sitting on their asses collecting overtime, probably while watching porn.
Despite all of the above, I support cops because their job is a fucking dumpster fire, and I do sympathize. But don't pretend for a second they are heroes, or follow the law, because I know better. There are too many power-hungry dicks on the force and they've brought much of this present shit show upon themselves.
BTW: I said SWAT teams are highly trained, not all police.
You sound very sympathetic in paragraph 2 of your diatribe.
Are you a defense attorney?
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LOLPurpleThrobber said:
Television is precisely like real life. I must have missed that short-lived series from 1975-76.
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I'm rooting hard for all of this plan to happen and for Seattle to plunge in to the third world. We need more domestic test cases to hold up against the new generation of commies infecting America.
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I think large cities need a SWAT unit, but for limited purposes. Serving no knock warrants in the middle of the night on small drug dealers isn't one of them in most cases. Columbine was a perfect opportunity for the SWAT team to shine. They just waited until everyone bled out and was dead. Same with the Florida night club shooting. Another police failure. The failures to stop the Portland and Seattle riots isn't the lack of a SWAT unit. It's the failure of the City Council. What's the use of a fully funded police unit when the failure has nothing to do with money?
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We don’t need police, guys. Hannah and Nathan from Social Services are here to handle domestic violence cases, going forward....
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SWAT gets called more because they can
Wait for swat means why risk my ass?
No knocks are to keep the drugs from being flushed
Not worth it IMO -
Are you a prototypical High School loser dick who became a cop to take his revenge upon the society that rejected him?trublue said:PurpleThrobber said:
What is the basis for your opinions? e.g., “And if you can fog a mirror, you’ll get a warrant . . . Some cops are too stupid to proofread their reports . . .”TurdBomber said:
Highly Trained? Bullshit. And if you can fog a mirror you'll get a warrant.trublue said:
Educate yourself . . . Swat teams vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction . . . Swat teams are highly trained and used only in special circumstances that are supposed to be justified (articulated) prior to execution of the subject search/arrest warrant.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-
That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind.
Execution of the vast majority of arrest/search warrants DO NOT involve SWAT teams.
There are so many stupid fucking cowboy cops in SPD it's a decades-long joke of a department. Most hate the City and treat citizens like dirt. And they lie like rugs, make up total bullshit on the fly "This is Private Property" they'll yell while standing on a City Sidewalk or County Property, and the list goes on and on. I've read the same fucking police reports with the exact same "observations" a hundred times. Some cops are too stupid to even proofread their reports after sitting on their asses collecting overtime, probably while watching porn.
Despite all of the above, I support cops because their job is a fucking dumpster fire, and I do sympathize. But don't pretend for a second they are heroes, or follow the law, because I know better. There are too many power-hungry dicks on the force and they've brought much of this present shit show upon themselves.
BTW: I said SWAT teams are highly trained, not all police.
You sound very sympathetic in paragraph 2 of your diatribe.
Are you a defense attorney? -
Or because they're on an unconstitutional gun raid and don't want you shooting back while they murder you in your sleep.RaceBannon said:SWAT gets called more because they can
Wait for swat means why risk my ass?
No knocks are to keep the drugs from being flushed
Not worth it IMO -
The answer is yes.NorthwestFresh said:
Asking because I don’t really know. Do local SWAT units serve federal warrants? I thought that was US Marshall and/or FBI.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-
That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind.
Marshal’s execute arrest warrants and have fugitive teams that locate and arrest wanted folks.
It depends . . . In Portland and Seattle, they have SWAT teams for the PD’s and the FBI (in each office).
SWAT teams are utilized in very high-risk warrants and ongoing violent/potentially violent situations (hostage situations, active shooter, etc.)
It is not necessary to have a federal agency execute a federal search warrant. All that’s necessary is that the affiant on the Affidavit for the warrant is a federal agent.
Local SWAT teams, although occasionally used by the Feds, generally are the go-to guys.
During my 25-year career in Portland, the FBI SWAT team was never used by my office.
A special shout-out to Mr. Hands Up, Don’t Shoot: FY HH!!!
BTW: A law degree is STILL NOT a requirement to be a FBI agent as you once believed.
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Just go in at lunch time. No overtime needed. Arrest them on the sidewalk when they go out, and then go in to the apartment. I agree it's not worth it. We've been doing these no knock late night raids for decades and it has accomplished?RaceBannon said:SWAT gets called more because they can
Wait for swat means why risk my ass?
No knocks are to keep the drugs from being flushed
Not worth it IMO -
Leave a bag of weed on their porch, wait to see the smoke and 20 minutes later, they're either coming out to get munchies or a pizza guy is going in with their pie. Works like a Charm.WestlinnDuck said:
Just go in at lunch time. No overtime needed. Arrest them on the sidewalk when they go out, and then go in to the apartment. I agree it's not worth it. We've been doing these no knock late night raids for decades and it has accomplished?RaceBannon said:SWAT gets called more because they can
Wait for swat means why risk my ass?
No knocks are to keep the drugs from being flushed
Not worth it IMO -
Was the question too tough, Counselor?TurdBomber said:
Are you a prototypical High School loser dick who became a cop to take his revenge upon the society that rejected him?trublue said:PurpleThrobber said:
What is the basis for your opinions? e.g., “And if you can fog a mirror, you’ll get a warrant . . . Some cops are too stupid to proofread their reports . . .”TurdBomber said:
Highly Trained? Bullshit. And if you can fog a mirror you'll get a warrant.trublue said:
Educate yourself . . . Swat teams vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction . . . Swat teams are highly trained and used only in special circumstances that are supposed to be justified (articulated) prior to execution of the subject search/arrest warrant.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
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That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind.
Execution of the vast majority of arrest/search warrants DO NOT involve SWAT teams.
There are so many stupid fucking cowboy cops in SPD it's a decades-long joke of a department. Most hate the City and treat citizens like dirt. And they lie like rugs, make up total bullshit on the fly "This is Private Property" they'll yell while standing on a City Sidewalk or County Property, and the list goes on and on. I've read the same fucking police reports with the exact same "observations" a hundred times. Some cops are too stupid to even proofread their reports after sitting on their asses collecting overtime, probably while watching porn.
Despite all of the above, I support cops because their job is a fucking dumpster fire, and I do sympathize. But don't pretend for a second they are heroes, or follow the law, because I know better. There are too many power-hungry dicks on the force and they've brought much of this present shit show upon themselves.
BTW: I said SWAT teams are highly trained, not all police.
You sound very sympathetic in paragraph 2 of your diatribe.
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Curious as to when I said a law degree was a requirement for the FBI?trublue said:
The answer is yes.NorthwestFresh said:
Asking because I don’t really know. Do local SWAT units serve federal warrants? I thought that was US Marshall and/or FBI.TurdBomber said:
Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?Ice_Holmvik said:
Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.pawz said:
Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.DoogieMcDoogerson said:This is insane.
Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:
Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.
The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.
Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?
North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.
The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.
Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.
Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
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That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.
Change my mind.
Marshal’s execute arrest warrants and have fugitive teams that locate and arrest wanted folks.
It depends . . . In Portland and Seattle, they have SWAT teams for the PD’s and the FBI (in each office).
SWAT teams are utilized in very high-risk warrants and ongoing violent/potentially violent situations (hostage situations, active shooter, etc.)
It is not necessary to have a federal agency execute a federal search warrant. All that’s necessary is that the affiant on the Affidavit for the warrant is a federal agent.
Local SWAT teams, although occasionally used by the Feds, generally are the go-to guys.
During my 25-year career in Portland, the FBI SWAT team was never used by my office.
A special shout-out to Mr. Hands Up, Don’t Shoot: FY HH!!!
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They said so on Twin Peaks.
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National Aeronautic and Space AdministrationEmergency Response Team (ERT): ERT’s primary duties consist of a variety of disciplines including, but not limited to, mobile security patrols, investigations, traffic enforcement, and physical security duties/responsibilities. The specialized teams constitute and operate in the event of a high-risk situation.
National Institutes of HealthSpecial Response Team (SRT): The SRT’s mission is to protect the NIH community from internal threats, such as active shooters, and external threats from domestic or foreign terrorists. The SRT is trained in tactics optimized to neutralize threats to Select Agent storage areas, irradiators, patient clinics, and laboratories. The SRT also provides dignitary protection during presidential, congressional, and foreign heads of state visits.
US Dept of EducationAdd the U.S. Department of Education to the list of federal agencies that can invade your home at gunpoint and hold you and your family in custody for hours.
Kenneth Wright learned this the hard way last week, when federal "education" agents busted down the front door of his Stockton, Calif., home at 6 in the morning.
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"They surrounded the house; it was like a task force or SWAT team," a neighbor told a national news affiliate. "They all had guns. They dragged him out in his boxer shorts, threw him to the ground and handcuffed him."
Wright's terrified children -- ages 3, 9 and 11 -- were forced to sit in a patrol car for two hours. Wright himself was in custody for six hours. "I felt really bad for those kids," a neighbor said.
Federal agents for the Education Department's inspector general executed a very broad search warrant and seized paperwork and a personal computer. Wright says the law enforcement agents -- who reportedly included 13 with the Education Department and one or two Stockton police officers -- told him they were investigating his estranged wife's use of federal aid for students. But she doesn't even live in his house.
A federal spokesman tried to distance the Education Department from the raid by emphasizing that the IG runs a "semi-independent office." But that begs the question of why a federal agency overseeing education policy should have an IG who can send agents armed with guns into Americans' homes. Or why the department has SWAT-style teams of agents to begin with.
Amtrak Office of Security Strategy and Special OperationsMembers of the Special Operations Unit (SOU) support Patrol operations by providing rapid response and enhanced capabilities to assist in keeping Amtrak passengers and employees safe.
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I guess I'm old enough to remember the outrage a few years back when heavily armed, armored bank robbers thoroughly outgunned the local police in a shoot out and many wondered why the police didn't have better firepower than the criminals.
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Very true while also being a pretty extreme outlier. But a good role for SWAT teams where exists an imminent danger to life and property. Kicking down wrong doors in the middle of the night, not so much.Alexis said:I guess I'm old enough to remember the outrage a few years back when heavily armed, armored bank robbers thoroughly outgunned the local police in a shoot out and many wondered why the police didn't have better firepower than the criminals.
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