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  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    HHusky said:

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    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.

    Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.

    With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.

    And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.

    The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.

    The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...

    Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher
    NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher
    South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher
    Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher
    Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher
    Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher

    CDC Link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/commercial-lab-surveys.html#washington

    Methodology Link: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.25.20140384v1.full.pdf

    Your chart applies 12X to the country, not cherry picked locations.
    Ah, yes, the independently collected multi state normalized data that maintain coalescence while being shown together by the CDC are "cherry picked"...

    How fucking retarded do you have to be to double down against what the CDC director is explicitly saying?

    "Our best estimate right now is that for every case that was reported, there actually were 10 other infections," Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the CDC, said during a call with reporters Thursday."

    NPR source: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/25/883520249/cdc-at-least-20-million-americans-have-had-coronavirus-heres-who-s-at-highest-ri

    Just admit you were uninformed
    "Redfield estimates that between 5% and 8% of the U.S. population has been exposed."

    Whether he's right or wrong, this doesn't support your argument which assumed that more than 11% of Americans have contracted Covid. Nor does his estimate of 20 million cases in late June support your claim from early June that the number was then 38 million--and you must think it's well over 50 million by now.

    Redfield's comments don't support anything you've said.

    I like the part where you have jumped from excess deaths to actual cases vs confirmed cases to now total percentages of total population in the attempt to try and find a foothold for your dumbfuck position.

    You were wrong, just admit it
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.

    Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.

    With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.

    And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.

    The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.

    The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...

    Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher
    NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher
    South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher
    Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher
    Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher
    Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher

    CDC Link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/commercial-lab-surveys.html#washington

    Methodology Link: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.25.20140384v1.full.pdf

    Your chart applies 12X to the country, not cherry picked locations.
    Ah, yes, the independently collected multi state normalized data that maintain coalescence while being shown together by the CDC are "cherry picked"...

    How fucking retarded do you have to be to double down against what the CDC director is explicitly saying?

    "Our best estimate right now is that for every case that was reported, there actually were 10 other infections," Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the CDC, said during a call with reporters Thursday."

    NPR source: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/25/883520249/cdc-at-least-20-million-americans-have-had-coronavirus-heres-who-s-at-highest-ri

    Just admit you were uninformed
    "Redfield estimates that between 5% and 8% of the U.S. population has been exposed."

    Whether he's right or wrong, this doesn't support your argument which assumed that more than 11% of Americans have contracted Covid. Nor does his estimate of 20 million cases in late June support your claim from early June that the number was then 38 million--and you must think it's well over 50 million by now.

    Redfield's comments don't support anything you've said.

    I like the part where you have jumped from excess deaths to actual cases vs confirmed cases to now total percentages of total population in the attempt to try and find a foothold for your dumbfuck position.

    You were wrong, just admit it
    I can read your chart. Can you?
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.

    Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.

    With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.

    And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.

    The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.

    The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...

    Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher
    NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher
    South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher
    Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher
    Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher
    Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher

    CDC Link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/commercial-lab-surveys.html#washington

    Methodology Link: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.25.20140384v1.full.pdf

    Your chart applies 12X to the country, not cherry picked locations.
    Ah, yes, the independently collected multi state normalized data that maintain coalescence while being shown together by the CDC are "cherry picked"...

    How fucking retarded do you have to be to double down against what the CDC director is explicitly saying?

    "Our best estimate right now is that for every case that was reported, there actually were 10 other infections," Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the CDC, said during a call with reporters Thursday."

    NPR source: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/25/883520249/cdc-at-least-20-million-americans-have-had-coronavirus-heres-who-s-at-highest-ri

    Just admit you were uninformed
    "Redfield estimates that between 5% and 8% of the U.S. population has been exposed."

    Whether he's right or wrong, this doesn't support your argument which assumed that more than 11% of Americans have contracted Covid. Nor does his estimate of 20 million cases in late June support your claim from early June that the number was then 38 million--and you must think it's well over 50 million by now.

    Redfield's comments don't support anything you've said.

    I like the part where you have jumped from excess deaths to actual cases vs confirmed cases to now total percentages of total population in the attempt to try and find a foothold for your dumbfuck position.

    You were wrong, just admit it
    I can read your chart. Can you?
    "And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis."

    Better tell the CDC and its director
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,216
    HHusky said:

    Clocks running out HH. Youre losing 34 to 17 with 81 seconds remaining. Looks to be a rather easy W for society and an L for you

    You obviously can't read a scoreboard.
    Check the facts
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.

    Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.

    With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.

    And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.

    The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.

    The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...

    Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher
    NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher
    South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher
    Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher
    Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher
    Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher

    CDC Link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/commercial-lab-surveys.html#washington

    Methodology Link: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.25.20140384v1.full.pdf

    Your chart applies 12X to the country, not cherry picked locations.
    Ah, yes, the independently collected multi state normalized data that maintain coalescence while being shown together by the CDC are "cherry picked"...

    How fucking retarded do you have to be to double down against what the CDC director is explicitly saying?

    "Our best estimate right now is that for every case that was reported, there actually were 10 other infections," Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the CDC, said during a call with reporters Thursday."

    NPR source: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/25/883520249/cdc-at-least-20-million-americans-have-had-coronavirus-heres-who-s-at-highest-ri

    Just admit you were uninformed
    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/507011-trump-retweets-game-show-host-who-said-cdc-is-lying-about-coronavirus

    I don't know, but we live in a world where Donald Trump is retweeting Chuck Woolery who is saying doctors are lying about pandemic numbers to purposely ruin the economy. What sort of prop bets could I have received on that 4 years ago? Either way, that can't sound smart.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    Clocks running out HH. Youre losing 34 to 17 with 81 seconds remaining. Looks to be a rather easy W for society and an L for you

    You obviously can't read a scoreboard.
    Check the facts

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852
    edited July 2020

    He's right

    If that’s the hill that supporters want to die on, then that’s ok. I admire their conviction. As long as you understand how that mindset is going to be portrayed.

    I don’t imagine the majority of Americans would agree with the idea that medical professionals are falsifying data to purposely ruin the economy to get Trump out of office and that anyone who doesn’t believe it is a sheep. That will always be seen as a lunatic fringe theory.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,619 Standard Supporter
    Just like you morons didn't believe that the CIA, DOJ, and FBI didn't collude to run a fake investigation of Trump for three years.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    Just like you morons didn't believe that the CIA, DOJ, and FBI didn't collude to run a fake investigation of Trump for three years.

    And don't even get Gasbag started on the Moon landing hoax.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    I just find it so hard to take seriously when I don't know anyone who has been sick from it.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,216
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Clocks running out HH. Youre losing 34 to 17 with 81 seconds remaining. Looks to be a rather easy W for society and an L for you

    You obviously can't read a scoreboard.
    Check the facts

    El oh el

    Yes Im sure those numbers tell the whole story
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited July 2020
    HHusky said:

    Just like you morons didn't believe that the CIA, DOJ, and FBI didn't collude to run a fake investigation of Trump for three years.

    And don't even get Gasbag started on the Moon landing hoax.
    Yes Captain WuFlu, Trump and Putin outsmarted the entire Obama DOJ while the campaign was being spied on by the same DOJ. Fooled them so humiliatingly that they stole the entire election and left no evidence of their actions.

    You’re so stupid.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.

    Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.

    With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.

    And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.

    The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.

    The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...

    Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher
    NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher
    South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher
    Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher
    Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher
    Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher

    CDC Link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/commercial-lab-surveys.html#washington

    Methodology Link: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.25.20140384v1.full.pdf

    I was right.
  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,509
    Grim death column....
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    But some buttfuck county asked for a refrigerator trailer so we know Texas is really bad
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    But some buttfuck county asked for a refrigerator trailer so we know Texas is really bad

    Houston, Austin and Waco. Very backward places.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club
    Seattle had to build a temporary field hospital at Quest Field!!!!!!!

    Then they tore it down a week later

    Welcome to March
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    Seattle had to build a temporary field hospital at Quest Field!!!!!!!

    Then they tore it down a week later

    Welcome to March

    Check out Atlanta. In July. This July. Now.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Seattle had to build a temporary field hospital at Quest Field!!!!!!!

    Then they tore it down a week later

    Welcome to March

    Check out Atlanta. In July. This July. Now.
    Another fake hospital!!!!!

    Get me the video