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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,600

    Hopefully

    Of course
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited July 2020
    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.

    Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.

    With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.

    And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.

    The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.

    The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...

    Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher
    NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher
    South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher
    Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher
    Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher
    Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher

    CDC Link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/commercial-lab-surveys.html#washington

    Methodology Link: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.25.20140384v1.full.pdf

  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,878
    edited July 2020
    Maybe someone did this and I didn't see it. If you apply the average amount of testing over the last week and apply that to history of the data we have, this is the "new cases" chart. Not so grim is it.

    data from here:

    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-states?country=~USA


  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 28,084
    Clocks running out HH. Youre losing 34 to 17 with 81 seconds remaining. Looks to be a rather easy W for society and an L for you
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,930 Standard Supporter

    Clocks running out HH. Youre losing 34 to 17 with 81 seconds remaining. Looks to be a rather easy W for society and an L for you

    The Dazzler is hoping for an assist from the Elam scoring method.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,600
    edited July 2020

    Clocks running out HH. Youre losing 34 to 17 with 81 seconds remaining. Looks to be a rather easy W for society and an L for you

    You obviously can't read a scoreboard.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,600
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.

    Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.

    With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.

    And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.

    The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.

    The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...

    Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher
    NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher
    South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher
    Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher
    Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher
    Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher

    CDC Link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/commercial-lab-surveys.html#washington

    Methodology Link: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.25.20140384v1.full.pdf

    Your chart applies 12X to the country, not cherry picked locations.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    32,000 dead already and placing sick people into homes is competent government.

    This data manipulation over this moderate virus has reached peaked stupid.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,600
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.

    Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.

    With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.

    And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.

    The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.

    The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...

    Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher
    NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher
    South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher
    Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher
    Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher
    Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher

    CDC Link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/commercial-lab-surveys.html#washington

    Methodology Link: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.25.20140384v1.full.pdf

    Your chart applies 12X to the country, not cherry picked locations.
    Ah, yes, the independently collected multi state normalized data that maintain coalescence while being shown together by the CDC are "cherry picked"...

    How fucking retarded do you have to be to double down against what the CDC director is explicitly saying?

    "Our best estimate right now is that for every case that was reported, there actually were 10 other infections," Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the CDC, said during a call with reporters Thursday."

    NPR source: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/25/883520249/cdc-at-least-20-million-americans-have-had-coronavirus-heres-who-s-at-highest-ri

    Just admit you were uninformed
    "Redfield estimates that between 5% and 8% of the U.S. population has been exposed."

    Whether he's right or wrong, this doesn't support your argument which assumed that more than 11% of Americans have contracted Covid. Nor does his estimate of 20 million cases in late June support your claim from early June that the number was then 38 million--and you must think it's well over 50 million by now.

    Redfield's comments don't support anything you've said.