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  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.

    Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,600

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    Nope. Actually pretty typical.

    Which illustrates the other problem with your chart. 2018 was higher than typical. But, again, we didn't trade the flu for coronavirus; we now have both.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    Nope. Actually pretty typical.

    Which illustrates the other problem with your chart. 2018 was higher than typical. But, again, we didn't trade the flu for coronavirus; we now have both.
    Pointing out that people still die in other manners like car accidents or cancer is a rather irrelevant fact when discussing the comparative risk assessment or IFR of a disease.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,600
    edited July 2020
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    Nope. Actually pretty typical.

    Which illustrates the other problem with your chart. 2018 was higher than typical. But, again, we didn't trade the flu for coronavirus; we now have both.
    Pointing out that people still die in other manners like car accidents or cancer is a rather irrelevant fact when discussing the comparative risk assessment or IFR of a disease.
    I agree. Yet suggesting we typically lose 137,000 people (and counting) to the flu would be ridiculous. And calling it just a "bad flu year" when we lose 137,000 to a different virus, and still have 35,000 or so dead from the flu as well, is simply dishonest.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,600
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.

    Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.

    With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.

    And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,538 Founders Club
    Take out about 6 states, yes.
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.

    Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.

    Could be anything. Don’t underestimate the pull forward deaths for those that would have died from the flu or something else that was minor in 2021 supposedly dying of Covid in 2020 in the over 80 category. Those probably will go down next year.

    The 30-40 somethings deaths in 2021 will be higher than 2020 though.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,868 Standard Supporter
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    Nope. Actually pretty typical.

    Which illustrates the other problem with your chart. 2018 was higher than typical. But, again, we didn't trade the flu for coronavirus; we now have both.
    Pointing out that people still die in other manners like car accidents or cancer is a rather irrelevant fact when discussing the comparative risk assessment or IFR of a disease.
    If you die in a car accident (or any other manner) and test positive for China virus it's a virus death.
  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,529
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    Nope. Actually pretty typical.

    Which illustrates the other problem with your chart. 2018 was higher than typical. But, again, we didn't trade the flu for coronavirus; we now have both.
    So if you add the two together, it's kind of like moderately worse than a bad flu year, right?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,600

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    Nope. Actually pretty typical.

    Which illustrates the other problem with your chart. 2018 was higher than typical. But, again, we didn't trade the flu for coronavirus; we now have both.
    So if you add the two together, it's kind of like moderately worse than a bad flu year, right?
    It’s not done yet.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,242 Founders Club