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What are the Republican and Democrat party's alleged valuesMelloDawg said:
But I don’t and didn’t shrug off Biden’s comments on the racial jungle and “you ain’t black” stuff. Neither are good and don’t fit within his party’s alleged values.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You could criticize both. But youre partisan, so you toe the party line and criticize only one and shrug off the Biden stuff.MelloDawg said:
I thought I was pretty clear on the racial tension issues and how neither candidates’ commentary really moves the needle for me. I could both criticize and defend both Biden and Trump when it comes to that issue. I don’t predicate my vote on that stuff.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You only show up to make half assed contrarian points, and usually abandon ship when met with counter points.MelloDawg said:
Again with this “side” stuff. I know it’s easier to make things so binary these days because it’s easier to combat “the other” when it sounds like they’re diametrically opposed to you. You’d be surprised how I’m probably in line with some of your values as well.WestlinnDuck said:There is that word, "feel". Maybe your side could go get educated and stop feeling and lying about it.
The other day you were toeing the "Trump is racist" line, I responded along with other with a bumch of Biden actual racism, and you responded with some weak shit "I dont have a pulse on the black community" non answer
So tell us Mello, what the fuck are your values?
Now if THAT isn’t a non answer, I don’t know what is.
Hth -
Democrats are the party of:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
What are the Republican and Democrat party's alleged valuesMelloDawg said:
But I don’t and didn’t shrug off Biden’s comments on the racial jungle and “you ain’t black” stuff. Neither are good and don’t fit within his party’s alleged values.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You could criticize both. But youre partisan, so you toe the party line and criticize only one and shrug off the Biden stuff.MelloDawg said:
I thought I was pretty clear on the racial tension issues and how neither candidates’ commentary really moves the needle for me. I could both criticize and defend both Biden and Trump when it comes to that issue. I don’t predicate my vote on that stuff.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You only show up to make half assed contrarian points, and usually abandon ship when met with counter points.MelloDawg said:
Again with this “side” stuff. I know it’s easier to make things so binary these days because it’s easier to combat “the other” when it sounds like they’re diametrically opposed to you. You’d be surprised how I’m probably in line with some of your values as well.WestlinnDuck said:There is that word, "feel". Maybe your side could go get educated and stop feeling and lying about it.
The other day you were toeing the "Trump is racist" line, I responded along with other with a bumch of Biden actual racism, and you responded with some weak shit "I dont have a pulse on the black community" non answer
So tell us Mello, what the fuck are your values?
Now if THAT isn’t a non answer, I don’t know what is.
Hth
Slavery
Confederacy
Jim Crow/segregation
Woodrow Wilson
Filibustering Civil Rights
Having a former KKK recruiter as Senate Majority Leader
Running cities where blacks kill other blacks at an insane rate compared to other races
Jailing more black people under Biden’s bill and Clinton’s signing it
Gentrification/pricing inner-city blacks out of neighborhoods
Allowing illegal immigrants to work for lower wages and with no protections or safety
On and on and on...
If we’re? tearing down statues and erasing things, how about abolishing the Democrat Party as a whole since racism and “systemic racism” were enabled and advanced by the Party of Hatred.
How any decent person wants to affiliate themself with that party and it’s centuries of racism and promote it is a mystery. Talk about Cognitive Dissonance. One of the most racist political parties in the history of the Western world, if not the most racist, and it still exists today. -
I agree with most of this but let's hear it from MelloNorthwestFresh said:
Democrats are the party of:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
What are the Republican and Democrat party's alleged valuesMelloDawg said:
But I don’t and didn’t shrug off Biden’s comments on the racial jungle and “you ain’t black” stuff. Neither are good and don’t fit within his party’s alleged values.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You could criticize both. But youre partisan, so you toe the party line and criticize only one and shrug off the Biden stuff.MelloDawg said:
I thought I was pretty clear on the racial tension issues and how neither candidates’ commentary really moves the needle for me. I could both criticize and defend both Biden and Trump when it comes to that issue. I don’t predicate my vote on that stuff.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You only show up to make half assed contrarian points, and usually abandon ship when met with counter points.MelloDawg said:
Again with this “side” stuff. I know it’s easier to make things so binary these days because it’s easier to combat “the other” when it sounds like they’re diametrically opposed to you. You’d be surprised how I’m probably in line with some of your values as well.WestlinnDuck said:There is that word, "feel". Maybe your side could go get educated and stop feeling and lying about it.
The other day you were toeing the "Trump is racist" line, I responded along with other with a bumch of Biden actual racism, and you responded with some weak shit "I dont have a pulse on the black community" non answer
So tell us Mello, what the fuck are your values?
Now if THAT isn’t a non answer, I don’t know what is.
Hth
Slavery
Confederacy
Jim Crow/segregation
Woodrow Wilson
Filibustering Civil Rights
Having a former KKK recruiter as Senate Majority Leader
Running cities where blacks kill other blacks at an insane rate compared to other races
Jailing more black people under Biden’s bill and Clinton’s signing it
Allowing illegal immigrants to work for lower wages and with no protections or safety
On and on and on...
You also could've added a famous LBJ quote on the Democrat 100 year plan -
I added a few more things and thought about that one as well.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I agree with most of this but let's hear it from MelloNorthwestFresh said:
Democrats are the party of:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
What are the Republican and Democrat party's alleged valuesMelloDawg said:
But I don’t and didn’t shrug off Biden’s comments on the racial jungle and “you ain’t black” stuff. Neither are good and don’t fit within his party’s alleged values.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You could criticize both. But youre partisan, so you toe the party line and criticize only one and shrug off the Biden stuff.MelloDawg said:
I thought I was pretty clear on the racial tension issues and how neither candidates’ commentary really moves the needle for me. I could both criticize and defend both Biden and Trump when it comes to that issue. I don’t predicate my vote on that stuff.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You only show up to make half assed contrarian points, and usually abandon ship when met with counter points.MelloDawg said:
Again with this “side” stuff. I know it’s easier to make things so binary these days because it’s easier to combat “the other” when it sounds like they’re diametrically opposed to you. You’d be surprised how I’m probably in line with some of your values as well.WestlinnDuck said:There is that word, "feel". Maybe your side could go get educated and stop feeling and lying about it.
The other day you were toeing the "Trump is racist" line, I responded along with other with a bumch of Biden actual racism, and you responded with some weak shit "I dont have a pulse on the black community" non answer
So tell us Mello, what the fuck are your values?
Now if THAT isn’t a non answer, I don’t know what is.
Hth
Slavery
Confederacy
Jim Crow/segregation
Woodrow Wilson
Filibustering Civil Rights
Having a former KKK recruiter as Senate Majority Leader
Running cities where blacks kill other blacks at an insane rate compared to other races
Jailing more black people under Biden’s bill and Clinton’s signing it
Allowing illegal immigrants to work for lower wages and with no protections or safety
On and on and on...
You also could've added a famous LBJ quote on the Democrat 100 year plan
The 2020 Dem candidate is on record saying he doesn’t want his kids to grow up in a “racial jungle” with the blacks is as on-brand as it gets with this party’s disgusting past with racism. -
I have family and friends that have been and still are worried about Covid-19. I’m respectful about it because people can believe what they want to believe and demonizing people that don’t agree with you is wrong, but the protests being considered acceptable but other gatherings not being acceptable is when I officially thought the whole pandemic is mostly bullshit. I was suspicious before, but at that point it officially jumped the shark.NorthwestFresh said:
Cognitive dissonance is believing a Trump rally spreads Covid while BLM protests of tens of thousands packed together and riots don’t. That’s your side, goofball. It takes a moron to believe one and not the other. You don’t even know what it means.MelloDawg said:
It’s just not a hill I choose to die on when at the Tug since cognitive dissonance is the real pandemic we face around these parts.RaceBannon said:
So you don't know how he bungled itMelloDawg said:
Not sure, not a public health or viral immunology expert, but you wouldn't like the responses I give anyway so I don't think there's much point. Besides, I said the media portrays him as bungling the whole thing, I'm not saying that it was a comprehensive failure in the first place and that's not the argument. The issue is the defiant rhetoric he uses when he is criticized for the response. Does he literally think he did nothing wrong and everything right when ostensibly qualified professionals suggest otherwise? He'll never be humble, but humility might have helped him from the start of this and still could. He just doubles down as if nothing went wrong from the beginning which gives his opponents and mass media lots of material to use.SFGbob said:
How should Trump have dealt with COVID differently? Please be specific.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it?
Thank you
But again though, he either clearly thinks he did everything right from the start and that medical professionals are wrong or he’s turning inward and not wanting to admit fault for fear of public perception. I say the latter. You could argue that he’d still be portrayed as a failed leader on this issue though, I could concede that point. -
This will be much like explaining systemic racism!SFGbob said:
How should Trump have dealt with COVID differently? Please be specific.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it?