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Kemp for Pippen Trade in 1994

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-07-01/sports/9407010179_1_trade-pippen-scottie-pippen-bulls

I don't remember this alleged deal or at least I vaguely do. Would have been Kemp and Ricky Pierce for Pippen.

MJ told George Karl that the Sonics would win the championship if they made the trade, according to the article. What do you guys think?
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Kemp (before McIlvane and the lockout weight gain) > Pippen

    I would have hated that deal
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,147 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2014
    I was just thinking about that trade, and how the NBA Draft was a big deal then (no God damn h.s. punks or Eurotrash). You actually knew most of the draftees.

    I wasn't a big fan of it at the time. In the playoffs that yr., Pippen refused to go in the last part of a playoff game Because the coach called a play for Kukoc instead. He wasn't exactly a team player. Pippin alone would not have just magically bought Championships to the Sonics.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,841 Founders Club
    Imagine fast breaks with Jordan and Kemp as the racehorses going airborne. Wow, what a show that would have been.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,773


    MJ told George Karl that the Sonics would win the championship if they made the trade, according to the article. What do you guys think?

    I think they lose to the Bulls.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,416 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2014
    I remember the deal. My brother and I were sad about it, but looking at it now, it would have been a good move for the Sonics. Pippen was better than Kemp. It would have been a great move for the Sonics. The perimeter defense with Pippen and Payton would have been incredible.

    Only thing questionable about the deal would have been the fit. We already had Detlef to play the 3. Would Pippen be the 2 and we trade Gill for another big? Pippen at the 3 and Det at 4? Or would we sign another big to pair with Perkins/Ervin Johnson? There would have needed to be another move or 2, but Pippen was better than Kemp ever was. Pippen was a top 10 player, maybe even top 5. Kemp was good. Pippen was borderline great.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,416 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    Kemp (before McIlvane and the lockout weight gain) > Pippen

    I would have hated that deal

    That's some Sooonic shit. Everyone loves Kemp, but it's not even close to who was the better player. Pippen was always better.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    edited May 2014

    I remember the deal. My brother and I were sad about it, but looking at it now, it would have been a good move for the Sonics. Pippen was better than Kemp. It would have been a great move for the Sonics. The perimeter defense with Pippen and Payton would have been incredible.

    Only thing questionable about the deal would have been the fit. We already had Detlef to play the 3. Would Pippen be the 2 and we trade Gill for another big? Pippen at the 3 and Det at 4? Or would we sign another big to pair with Perkins/Ervin Johnson? There would have needed to be another move or 2, but Pippen was better than Kemp ever was. Pippen was a top 10 player, maybe even top 5. Kemp was good. Pippen was borderline great.

    Wow, totally disagree on Pippen. I think he's the most overrated player of his generation.

    I always hated Pippen.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453

    I remember the deal. My brother and I were sad about it, but looking at it now, it would have been a good move for the Sonics. Pippen was better than Kemp. It would have been a great move for the Sonics. The perimeter defense with Pippen and Payton would have been incredible.

    Only thing questionable about the deal would have been the fit. We already had Detlef to play the 3. Would Pippen be the 2 and we trade Gill for another big? Pippen at the 3 and Det at 4? Or would we sign another big to pair with Perkins/Ervin Johnson? There would have needed to be another move or 2, but Pippen was better than Kemp ever was. Pippen was a top 10 player, maybe even top 5. Kemp was good. Pippen was borderline great.

    Road Dawg at the time of the trade and it was announced as a "done deal" watch the 1994 draft they were talking like it was done. Kemp, Pierce and the 10th pick in the draft for Pippen.

    I didn't like it due to the bolded part. In the west you had a stable of bigs and the Sonics would have left themselves no bigs.

    I love Kemp but I would take Pippen who in 1994 was a top 3 player in the game maybe even 2nd behind only Olajuwon at that time. Now Kemp was a better fit.

    My greatest what if of all-time is what if the Sonics had simply kept Pippen the 5th pick in the draft instead of immediately trading him for Oldin Polynice? Watching Kemp, Payton and Pippen do the fast break would be fun.

    Here is George Karl's take on the Pippen trade who was pissed it DIDN'T happen. He said that is when he knew his relationship with Wally Walker was going to be doomed.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1uC-jU1550

    This video he describes the difference between Kemp and Payton

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHoAOWb1p4E

    This is where Karl talks about the Denver collapse and the trade.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    Flagged for linking Bleacher Report. You of all people should know this.