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Maurice Heims, 2021 3* DE, Santa Margarita (Santa Margarita Catholic), CA (Committed)

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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,826
    I don't love that he's already 18 and hasn't actually played any Varsity football.

    He's still a take but there's a pretty low floor here.
  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,444

    Coach K identified him early and had him as a top target which is good enough for me.
    Fair enough, I guess. Still doesnt excite me much
  • sonics1993sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460

    Fair enough, I guess. Still doesnt excite me much
    Me neither but at this point you just take what you can get.
  • UDubHusky23UDubHusky23 Member Posts: 889
    dnc said:

    I don't love that he's already 18 and hasn't actually played any Varsity football.

    He's still a take but there's a pretty low floor here.
    Probably held back due to the international move. I don't like it at first glance. But the frame and physical traits look pretty good. Like @sonics1993 said, if a coach wants a project I have the most faith in Coach K on our staff right now to develop this kid.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,826

    Probably held back due to the international move. I don't like it at first glance. But the frame and physical traits look pretty good. Like @sonics1993 said, if a coach wants a project I have the most faith in Coach K on our staff right now to develop this kid.
    Definitely held back by the move. Just saying I’d like his upside a lot more if he were just turning 17 than just turning 18.
  • rustysavagerustysavage Member Posts: 942

    Probably held back due to the international move. I don't like it at first glance. But the frame and physical traits look pretty good. Like @sonics1993 said, if a coach wants a project I have the most faith in Coach K on our staff right now to develop this kid.
    That's a good rule. I'm tired of seeing guys from Europe get recruited to schools just for football. That's how Bellevue rose to dominance, on the backs of EU transfers that didn't even live in the district.
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,850 Swaye's Wigwam

    That's a good rule. I'm tired of seeing guys from Europe get recruited to schools just for football. That's how Bellevue rose to dominance, on the backs of EU transfers that didn't even live in the district.
    What?? Feel I’m getting wooshed and EU transfers is code for something else...
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,826
    NEsnake12 said:

    Coker/DDY constantly say "don't watch the competition, the competition doesn't matter."

    Outside of QB's and kickers, it's all about athletic potential. Heims is a high end athlete who has a high ceiling. He doesn't need to play right away
    And they are simultaneously correct and overestimating their own abilities to separate the player from the competition when they say that.

    The eye test is never enough because the eye lies.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    edited June 2020
    First question in evaluating a player. Are they dominating? If they are going to be good in college, they should be. There a few outliers, but it’s really the test of whether a guy has a shot at the next level of competition. Go from there.
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,542 Swaye's Wigwam
    Baseman said:

    Helms is a great lottery ticket. He's a far better athlete than the kid that just committed to OU and has a higher upside than Summerville.

    Helms is no Kyler Manu and could end up a dominating all conference player or he could Bryce Sterk and transfer to Montana.

    I thought of Sterk and had to laugh at myself for giving Helms a thumbs up grade. I did the same for Sterk for basically the same reasons. He's a good athlete with plus speed for his size.

    Sometimes it's necessary to be a football player too. Hopefully this guy is.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,826
    Baseman said:

    Helms is a lottery ticket. He's a far better athlete than the kid that just committed to OU and has a higher upside than Summerville.

    Helms is no Kyler Manu and could end up a dominating all conference player or he could Bryce Sterk and transfer to Montana.

    More of a Martin Breunig type, IMO
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,369
    chuck said:

    I thought of Sterk and had to laugh at myself for giving Helms a thumbs up grade. I did the same for Sterk for basically the same reasons. He's a good athlete with plus speed for his size.

    Sometimes it's necessary to be a football player too. Hopefully this guy is.
    Sterk was stiff. Helms is not and may end up a real dude. Or not. Either way....
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,542 Swaye's Wigwam

    Bryce Sterk is on a NFL roster
    Seriously? I did not know that. Cool. He is a big, fast dude. He definitely had the physical characteristics.
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