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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    dhdawg said:

    maybe this is unfair to include because spoelstra has never had to coach a bad team. But Rivers was pretty awful in Orlando before going to boston

    I think he did though. Check those 2009 and 2010 Heat teams. He doesn't get enough credit for taking those teams to 5 seeds as those teams were pure garbage. Won 15 games the year before he took over. Then their team chose Beasley over Westbrook and Kevin Love.
    yes but wade was far better than any player doc ever had in orlando
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    edited May 2014
    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    maybe this is unfair to include because spoelstra has never had to coach a bad team. But Rivers was pretty awful in Orlando before going to boston

    I think he did though. Check those 2009 and 2010 Heat teams. He doesn't get enough credit for taking those teams to 5 seeds as those teams were pure garbage. Won 15 games the year before he took over. Then their team chose Beasley over Westbrook and Kevin Love.
    yes but wade was far better than any player doc ever had in orlando
    Remember Doc had T-Mac. We laugh at T-Mac now but T-Mac was legit when Doc had him, he was a top 10 player in the game. T-Mac was first team all-NBA in 2001 and 2002 as well as top 5 in the MVP.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/riverdo01c.html

    That's Rivers coaching W-L and you can tell when he gained KG and Allen plus Rondo emerged.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    t-mac is not on the same level as wade. Sorry JMO. not even close.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,216
    So Doc was a .500 head coach ... got fired ... took some time to figure a few things out ... had a couple of down years in Boston while the roster retooled ... and has been one of the best coaches in the league since then.

    Facing adversity as a coach isn't a bad thing ... you tend to learn from it.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    dhdawg said:

    t-mac is not on the same level as wade. Sorry JMO. not even close.

    Historically he isn't but that T-Mac was. That T-Mac was scoring champ twice in his career. First team all-NBA two years and was top five MVP two years. He had a four year stretch which is when Doc coached him he was one of the best players in the game.

    D-Wade has just two first team all-NBA's and two top 5 MVP years.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    maybe so. But NBA greatness goes beyond personal achievements
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    dhdawg said:

    Tequilla said:

    Let's hope that the rest of the playoffs are as good as the first round this year ... this is reminding me of late 80s and early 90s in terms of quality of play. Everybody seems to have good players on their roster.

    Spurs in 7
    Clippers in 6

    Heat in 7
    Pacers in 7

    The only reason the thunder got pushed to 7 was Tony Allen could guard durant. But in the end talent won out. The Clippers perimeter defense isn't anything close to the thunder. The grizzlies could also slow it down and ugly the game, which is the way you win in OKC. That is not the clippers. The thunder are not losing a home game to the clippers, same with the clippers. HCA will be the difference in this series
    dhdawg said:

    Tequilla said:

    Let's hope that the rest of the playoffs are as good as the first round this year ... this is reminding me of late 80s and early 90s in terms of quality of play. Everybody seems to have good players on their roster.

    Spurs in 7
    Clippers in 6

    Heat in 7
    Pacers in 7

    we'll see. When you want to beat a great team on the road in a great enviornment speeding the game up usually isn't the recipe for doing so

    I'm hearing this team does not suck and that the rebuild is ahead of schedule.

    I'm also hearing the Mariners will win 85-90 games and be 3-5 games above .500 after April.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    dhdawg said:

    Tequilla said:

    Let's hope that the rest of the playoffs are as good as the first round this year ... this is reminding me of late 80s and early 90s in terms of quality of play. Everybody seems to have good players on their roster.

    Spurs in 7
    Clippers in 6

    Heat in 7
    Pacers in 7

    The only reason the thunder got pushed to 7 was Tony Allen could guard durant. But in the end talent won out. The Clippers perimeter defense isn't anything close to the thunder. The grizzlies could also slow it down and ugly the game, which is the way you win in OKC. That is not the clippers. The thunder are not losing a home game to the clippers, same with the clippers. HCA will be the difference in this series
    dhdawg said:

    Tequilla said:

    Let's hope that the rest of the playoffs are as good as the first round this year ... this is reminding me of late 80s and early 90s in terms of quality of play. Everybody seems to have good players on their roster.

    Spurs in 7
    Clippers in 6

    Heat in 7
    Pacers in 7

    we'll see. When you want to beat a great team on the road in a great enviornment speeding the game up usually isn't the recipe for doing so

    I'm hearing this team does not suck and that the rebuild is ahead of schedule.

    I'm also hearing the Mariners will win 85-90 games and be 3-5 games above .500 after April.
    it isn't on that level. It's probably my equivalent to "the smart money was always on BSU"

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    Another example of Spoelstra is playing the match ups series to series. Had Haslem starting round one while Battier never played. James Jones was the 6th man.

    Now Battier starts and Haslem/Jones played garbage time.

    Heat were just coasting during the season.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,500
    Good to see the 95-96 Sonics getting ripped a new asshole tonight.