1st rd Playoff prediction thread.... for playoff prediction superiority guys.
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I trust that somehow Doc will come up with something to slow down the Thunder.
There's two ways to go about this.
The first is to let Durant and Westbrook get theirs but to take away the open looks for everybody else. The second is to going to be making Durant work to get his while trying to keep him off the line, dropping off Westbrook and seeing if he can hit the jumpers that are given instead of trying to run into the lane with 2-3 guys waiting for him, and letting the role players try to make shots (and just as importantly have Westbrook believe enough in his teammates to pass the ball around).
The one thing that you know with the Clippers is that they are going to have 5-6 guys a night scoring in double figures. It's going to be a battle of whether the better individual talent beats the better team.
If the Clippers didn't have Doc, I wouldn't trust them either. But outside of Popovich, he's the best coach left in the playoffs and it isn't even close. -
You had me until this line. I would take Erik Spoelstra over Rivers and at the very least it's a close enough debate.Tequilla said:I trust that somehow Doc will come up with something to slow down the Thunder.
There's two ways to go about this.
The first is to let Durant and Westbrook get theirs but to take away the open looks for everybody else. The second is to going to be making Durant work to get his while trying to keep him off the line, dropping off Westbrook and seeing if he can hit the jumpers that are given instead of trying to run into the lane with 2-3 guys waiting for him, and letting the role players try to make shots (and just as importantly have Westbrook believe enough in his teammates to pass the ball around).
The one thing that you know with the Clippers is that they are going to have 5-6 guys a night scoring in double figures. It's going to be a battle of whether the better individual talent beats the better team.
If the Clippers didn't have Doc, I wouldn't trust them either. But outside of Popovich, he's the best coach left in the playoffs and it isn't even close. -
I like to call Rivers who is 0-2 in playoff series against spoelstra miles better than him. I do that. Rivers is a good coach but geezTequilla said:I trust that somehow Doc will come up with something to slow down the Thunder.
There's two ways to go about this.
The first is to let Durant and Westbrook get theirs but to take away the open looks for everybody else. The second is to going to be making Durant work to get his while trying to keep him off the line, dropping off Westbrook and seeing if he can hit the jumpers that are given instead of trying to run into the lane with 2-3 guys waiting for him, and letting the role players try to make shots (and just as importantly have Westbrook believe enough in his teammates to pass the ball around).
The one thing that you know with the Clippers is that they are going to have 5-6 guys a night scoring in double figures. It's going to be a battle of whether the better individual talent beats the better team.
If the Clippers didn't have Doc, I wouldn't trust them either. But outside of Popovich, he's the best coach left in the playoffs and it isn't even close. -
I know people just started paying attention to Spoelstra and the Heat in 2011 but Rivers did defeat Spoelstra in 2010.dhdawg said:
I like to call Rivers who is 0-2 in playoff series against spoelstra miles better than him. I do that. Rivers is a good coach but geezTequilla said:I trust that somehow Doc will come up with something to slow down the Thunder.
There's two ways to go about this.
The first is to let Durant and Westbrook get theirs but to take away the open looks for everybody else. The second is to going to be making Durant work to get his while trying to keep him off the line, dropping off Westbrook and seeing if he can hit the jumpers that are given instead of trying to run into the lane with 2-3 guys waiting for him, and letting the role players try to make shots (and just as importantly have Westbrook believe enough in his teammates to pass the ball around).
The one thing that you know with the Clippers is that they are going to have 5-6 guys a night scoring in double figures. It's going to be a battle of whether the better individual talent beats the better team.
If the Clippers didn't have Doc, I wouldn't trust them either. But outside of Popovich, he's the best coach left in the playoffs and it isn't even close.
HTH
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2010_EC1.html#BOS-MIA
Holy fuck was Miami's starting lineup minus Wade a fucking dreckfest -
shit, my mistake. Although tough to blame him considering the talent he had on the team minus wade. Yikes
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So we're now giving Spoelstra credit for being a great coach because of his ability to roll the ball out for LBJ, Wade, and Bosh?
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You realized how fucktarded you sound making this argument against Spoelstra while arguing for Rivers?Tequilla said:So we're now giving
SpoelstraRivers credit for being a great coach because of his ability to roll the ball out forLBJ, Wade, and BoshKG, Pierce and Allen ? -
Right ...
Because when the Celtics won the title in 2008, none of KG, Pierce, and Allen was under 30 (respective ages of 32, 31, and 32).
In contrast, LBJ, Wade, and Bosh RIGHT NOW are 29, 32, and 30.
So while I'll be more than happy to agree with you that coaching KG, Pierce, and Allen is worth putting up there as saying that you had talent to work with, being able to win with your core players over 30 in what is a young man's league is saying something.
2008: Path to the final included 7 game series with Atlanta (with young Al Horford and Joe Johnson on the squad) and Cleveland (with LBJ), beating a Detroit team at the end of a 6 year run in the East Finals, and then beating the Lakers in the Finals.
2009: Fended off a young Bulls team in 7 before losing to Orlando in 7 (who went on to the Finals) - KG was hurt
2010: Lost to the Lakers in 7 in the Finals (Kendrick Perkins blew out his knee in Game 6 of the Finals); beat Wade, LBJ, and Orlando (Howard) to win the East.
2011: Lost to Miami in 5 games after Rondo's elbow was dislocated by Wade in what could have been argued to have been a dirty play
2012: In what was really the last stand for the team, they lost in the East Finals in 7 games to Miami in a series that could have gone either way.
When LBJ, Wade, and Bosh are in their mid-30s and still right in the midst of winning the East, then we'll talk about how great Spoelstra is as a coach. Right now, it looks to me as if they have been running on fumes and in desperate need of reinforcements. They are about to enter a series against a number of players that have caused them problems in the past and has more depth than them. They are about to be in a massive dogfight. And for what it is worth, I'll be shocked if Wade is still playing in a starting role (if at all) in an Eastern Conference Finals at the age of 35. -
TL. DR.Tequilla said:Right ...
Because when the Celtics won the title in 2008, none of KG, Pierce, and Allen was under 30 (respective ages of 32, 31, and 32).
In contrast, LBJ, Wade, and Bosh RIGHT NOW are 29, 32, and 30.
So while I'll be more than happy to agree with you that coaching KG, Pierce, and Allen is worth putting up there as saying that you had talent to work with, being able to win with your core players over 30 in what is a young man's league is saying something.
2008: Path to the final included 7 game series with Atlanta (with young Al Horford and Joe Johnson on the squad) and Cleveland (with LBJ), beating a Detroit team at the end of a 6 year run in the East Finals, and then beating the Lakers in the Finals.
2009: Fended off a young Bulls team in 7 before losing to Orlando in 7 (who went on to the Finals) - KG was hurt
2010: Lost to the Lakers in 7 in the Finals (Kendrick Perkins blew out his knee in Game 6 of the Finals); beat Wade, LBJ, and Orlando (Howard) to win the East.
2011: Lost to Miami in 5 games after Rondo's elbow was dislocated by Wade in what could have been argued to have been a dirty play
2012: In what was really the last stand for the team, they lost in the East Finals in 7 games to Miami in a series that could have gone either way.
When LBJ, Wade, and Bosh are in their mid-30s and still right in the midst of winning the East, then we'll talk about how great Spoelstra is as a coach. Right now, it looks to me as if they have been running on fumes and in desperate need of reinforcements. They are about to enter a series against a number of players that have caused them problems in the past and has more depth than them. They are about to be in a massive dogfight. And for what it is worth, I'll be shocked if Wade is still playing in a starting role (if at all) in an Eastern Conference Finals at the age of 35.
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You simply can't brag up Rivers then bash on Spoelstra while bringing up the reason you brought up.
If you can't see that then I can't help you.
Also Spoelstra proved he was a good coach during the 2012 playoffs. Chris Bosh went down and he had to adjust on the fly as his team found themselves down 2-1 to Pacers(were 0-2 without Bosh to that point). That is when Spoelstra decided to go small ball and play Lebron at the 4. As you would say the rest is history.
Where Spoelstra is at his best is making adjustments in the middle of the series something that Vogel and Brooks are hesitant to do. Battier was in a slump so he took him out the rotation in game 7, NBA Finals 1-3. After game 3 of NBA finals he started Miller, took out Birdman. After game 5, took out Haslem and Cole.
In three NBA Finals Spoelstra has never started the same lineup in every game of a Finals series. Constantly adjusting on the fly. That is his strength and that is why he's a good coach.
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