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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,905 Standard Supporter
    Well, it doesn't. Neighborhood was suffering thefts and break-ins. You think it was the retired Jewish folks or primarily young black males. In this case, Trayvon was an unstable thief. It bothers me that anyone would want to beat up the neighborhood watch guy. Tough to watch from your basement. Zimmerman had no prior evidence of being racially biased.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    Well, it doesn't. Neighborhood was suffering thefts and break-ins. You think it was the retired Jewish folks or primarily young black males. In this case, Trayvon was an unstable thief. It bothers me that anyone would want to beat up the neighborhood watch guy. Tough to watch from your basement. Zimmerman had no prior evidence of being racially biased.

    Well he was an Obama supporter. Could have been possible that he hated whitey.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    Anyone on these boreds would've handled the situation better than Zimmerman. Zimmerman was a social retard, with a gun, complete inept at his volunteer job and lacked any and all social skills for dealing with the situation at hand. Ignorant Prejudiced Racist Goon though he was, his communication skills obviously sucked ass to the point he couldn't even converse with Martin, but instead creepily followed him around without saying a word. Who on these boreds wouldn't have said, "Hey. Where you headed?" Or "Hey, do you live here?" Not Zimmerman, because he was a fucking retard. With a gun. And that's why Retards shouldn't have Guns.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    Anyone on these boreds would've handled the situation better than Zimmerman. Zimmerman was a social retard, with a gun, complete inept at his volunteer job and lacked any and all social skills for dealing with the situation at hand. Ignorant Prejudiced Racist Goon though he was, his communication skills obviously sucked ass to the point he couldn't even converse with Martin, but instead creepily followed him around without saying a word. Who on these boreds wouldn't have said, "Hey. Where you headed?" Or "Hey, do you live here?" Not Zimmerman, because he was a fucking retard. With a gun. And that's why Retards shouldn't have Guns.

    We're in the making shit up and pulling it out of your ass phase of this conversation.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,278
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Dispatcher: Are you following him?
    Zimmerman: Yeah.
    Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that.
    Zimmerman: Okay.
    Then keeps following him.

    Call Transcript. Facts Bobby. Not Bullshit.

    Is it bullshit that Zimmerman is a fucking loser lunatic? Difference of opinions? Maybe. Bullshit? Uh, no.

    Dispatcher isn't a cop. The "cops" never told him to do shit. And he actually did "break off" after the "cop" told him he didn't need to follow.

    You're pulling claims out of your ass.
    Dispatcher works for and in tandem with, the cops, Ass-Hair-Splitter.

    Zimmerman provoked the entire thing. I'd have wanted to kick that pudgy faggots ass, too.
    Non-emergency phone operator isn't the "cops" and doesn't have the authority of the "cops" which was the reason why you brought it up in the first place. You also conveniently omit that Zimmerman did stop running after Trademark after the phone call. How many times would you allow me to smash your head against the sidewalk before you responded with lethal force?
    How do we know this? Do we know where he was positioned when he 'broke off'? I've never read anything in this case supporting that version of the story. My understanding was that the eye witnesses (both the made-up and real ones) came upon the scene after hearing the struggle, and only then showed up and thus only able to say what happened at that point, which was the end. I don't recall any version of the incident involving an eye witness that watched Zimmerman make the call, follow, and then "break off". That all happened in the dark. Maybe Martin went after a stationary George who had "broken off" as you say. Maybe he was hiding and jumped George, which would suggest George kept going "somewhere". Maybe George followed him all the way to the scene of the fight. The latter is the most probable unless somebody, other than impugned-credibility George, testified otherwise. It's not a rhetorical question: what is the evidence, other than what Zimmerman said, that establishes that Zimmerman broke off his chase? And his "Ok" on the call transcript isn't sufficient.

    The thing that has bothered me about your take, and the take of a few others, is that you gratuitously point out Martin's teen-age run-ins with authority as reason to not give him the benefit of the doubt. But you don't seem to ever question Zimmerman, who himself was a giant lying POS as an adult, as demonstrated before, during and after the incident.
    I've never cited Martin's teenage run ins with authority to not give him the benefit of the doubt but I hope that strawman's asshole was nice and tight for ya.

    On the phone call to the "police" who never ordered him to stop pursing Trademark you can hear George breathing heavy as he runs after the young astronaut wannabe. During that same phone call, George stops running and his breathing returns to normal. He had already "broken off" the chase when Trademark sucker punched him. Which we all now know is cool as long as you're skeeeered.
    So, heavy breathing. Everything else follows I guess. Got it.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Anyone on these boreds would've handled the situation better than Zimmerman. Zimmerman was a social retard, with a gun, complete inept at his volunteer job and lacked any and all social skills for dealing with the situation at hand. Ignorant Prejudiced Racist Goon though he was, his communication skills obviously sucked ass to the point he couldn't even converse with Martin, but instead creepily followed him around without saying a word. Who on these boreds wouldn't have said, "Hey. Where you headed?" Or "Hey, do you live here?" Not Zimmerman, because he was a fucking retard. With a gun. And that's why Retards shouldn't have Guns.

    We're in the making shit up and pulling it out of your ass phase of this conversation.
    What am I "making up" Bob?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    Everything, all if it is just your baseless opinion, many of which are contrary to established fact. It's pointless continuing this, you're emoting you're not arguing.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    Bob: Is it a new idea to you that people don't like being followed? That it makes them anxious? Nervous? Feel unsafe or threatened? Increasingly so the longer it goes on, in time and distance?

    Ever heard of the internal "fight or flight" mechanism? Ever heard or read anything about it? Ever heard why these conflicts occur near a person's home but not in the driveway or in front of the home because people don't want stalkers to know exactly where they live?

    Are you this New to life, Bob?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Everything, all if it is just your baseless opinion, many of which are contrary to established fact. It's pointless continuing this, you're emoting you're not arguing.

    So you got nothing. Zip. Zilch. As expected.

    Who's emoting, Bob? Run away now.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    edited June 2020

    Bob: Is it a new idea to you that people don't like being followed? That it makes them anxious? Nervous? Feel unsafe or threatened? Increasingly so the longer it goes on, in time and distance?

    Ever heard of the internal "fight or flight" mechanism? Ever heard or read anything about it? Ever heard why these conflicts occur near a person's home but not in the driveway or in front of the home because people don't want stalkers to know exactly where they live?

    Are you this New to life, Bob?

    Yes, yes he was so skeered that instead of returning to the house where he was staying, which he was only a few feet away from, long after he lost Zimmerman, he returned in the direction in which he last saw Zimmerman and sucker punched him, breaking his nose and knocking him to the ground, but it's okay because he was skeeered. And then he was so afraid that he got on top of Zimmerman while he was on the ground and proceeded to go "MMA style" on him and smash his head into the sidewalk repeatedly.

    Which again is perfectly cool if your skeered.