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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    SFGbob said:

    Look up any mass shooting from 2000-2019 white male gets tried and charged but labeled as having a mental illness and will receive treatment instead of Jail for life or the death penalty. That is what I am saying its the court trials and outcomes. If you replace those white teens who did mass shootings and make them african american do you think they will be labeled off with Mental Illness and be given treatment for it?
    First of all the overwhelming majority of all school shooters are either killed during the shooting or commit suicide. The Florida school shooter is still awaiting trial in prison not a mental hospital.

    Kip Kinkel is in prison for the rest of his life, not a mental institution. You're full of shit.

    Some kid in Colorado was found insane. But he hardly “got off”.

    The problem Dodgy has is he makes a decent point, then fucks it up with cheery picked anecdotal data and hyperbole.

    As far as calling cops on people for dumb stuff, it happens quite often to everyone. Especially in the age of Karen. But most “victims” assume the person is an asshole doesn’t call the press. I said before in this thread maybe white privilege is when someone is being a dick to you, you have the privilege to assume the person is a dick rather than a racist.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,369
    edited June 2020
    Mass shootings are definitely mental illness though. They don't have an actual motive against someone.


    Killing a rival gangbanger over turf makes you a ghetto shithead.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,812

    Trayvon wasn't killed because of white privilege or stalking. He died because he was a POS using extreme force on what he thought was a helpless victim. Zimmerman was free to follow whomever he wanted in his neighborhood. Trayvon was made to feel special and hadn't had to face the consequences of prior crimes. Trademark came back after making it home to look for Zimmerman.

    Martin was a 17-year old 158 lb string bean. Zimmerman stretches the bounds of the idea of "victim" as used in everyday parlance.

    Not only that, but I've never read any incontrovertible evidence about the initiation of the fight. While you're at the task of pointing out that Martin wasn't a choir boy, don't forget to mention that Zimmerman had been arrested for assaulting an officer and had a restraining order filed on him for domestic abuse. He was also found to have lied about his finances to obtain a bond. His list goes longer than that.

    His guilt in court of a felony is one matter. Your portrayal of him as a victim is another. If Martin was a POS, at the ripe old age of 17, then George Zimmerman was and is turd of galactic proportions. Fucker should have called it in, and stayed put or gone home per the dispatcher's directive. He didn't and wound up on the wrong end of an ass kicking at the hands of kid giving up close to 50 lbs. to him.

    And, of course, lost in all the vitriol, conflicting versions of events and imperfect coroboration is the fact that Martin had done nothing to invite the incident. On his way home. Call it feelings all day long if you want to; but if that whole incident doesn't leave you with some sense of tragedy, then we're just different people.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,812

    One of my problems with this is Skadden Arps was founded in 1948. It isn't 1948 anymore. Same with your dad, it isn't decades ago. If you can't see the massive amount of progress this country has made in racial equality since pick one - Jim Crow, 1948 or when your dad graduated then you are having to use a backwards focus to make racial points about where we are at today. That doesn't mean anything is perfect, but it was getting better.
    I know all that. I wasn't making the point that things haven't changed. I was talking about subtle bias of all types in response to another post in the thread.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,795 Swaye's Wigwam
    Sledog said:

    Destruction of the black family, replacement of the father via welfare, government benefits paying more for unmarried women and more for more children. Planned. Paid for with our tax dollars. This stuff is planned dependency for a voting block.
    Black community excommunicates it’s own leaders that tell them the answer to their problems is inward. The left is helping out there now too.

  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    Martin was a 17-year old 158 lb string bean. Zimmerman stretches the bounds of the idea of "victim" as used in everyday parlance.

    Not only that, but I've never read any incontrovertible evidence about the initiation of the fight. While you're at the task of pointing out that Martin wasn't a choir boy, don't forget to mention that Zimmerman had been arrested for assaulting an officer and had a restraining order filed on him for domestic abuse. He was also found to have lied about his finances to obtain a bond. His list goes longer than that.

    His guilt in court of a felony is one matter. Your portrayal of him as a victim is another. If Martin was a POS, at the ripe old age of 17, then George Zimmerman was and is turd of galactic proportions. Fucker should have called it in, and stayed put or gone home per the dispatcher's directive. He didn't and wound up on the wrong end of an ass kicking at the hands of kid giving up close to 50 lbs. to him.

    And, of course, lost in all the vitriol, conflicting versions of events and imperfect coroboration is the fact that Martin had done nothing to invite the incident. On his way home. Call it feelings all day long if you want to; but if that whole incident doesn't leave you with some sense of tragedy, then we're just different people.
    If only there had been a trial where both sides could have presented their evidence and a jury of George's peers could have come to some kind of decision on it.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    What part is not factual, Bob?
    And the fact that you or I would've probably acted the same way if some fucking loon was stalking one of us and refused to break off, as told by the cops. The case was over-charged by a simpleton prosecutor who mistook the media attention for momentum and evidence. That's the technicality. And the lesser important fact that dead victims can't testify.

    Two lines of bullshit right there.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,994 Standard Supporter
    Dispatcher: Are you following him?
    Zimmerman: Yeah.
    Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that.
    Zimmerman: Okay.
    Then keeps following him.

    Call Transcript. Facts Bobby. Not Bullshit.

    Is it bullshit that Zimmerman is a fucking loser lunatic? Difference of opinions? Maybe. Bullshit? Uh, no.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    Dispatcher: Are you following him?
    Zimmerman: Yeah.
    Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that.
    Zimmerman: Okay.
    Then keeps following him.

    Call Transcript. Facts Bobby. Not Bullshit.

    Is it bullshit that Zimmerman is a fucking loser lunatic? Difference of opinions? Maybe. Bullshit? Uh, no.

    Dispatcher isn't a cop. The "cops" never told him to do shit. And he actually did "break off" after the "cop" told him he didn't need to follow.

    You're pulling claims out of your ass.
  • SECDAWGSECDAWG Member Posts: 5,004
    Meanwhile, the nations first black billionaire, BET TV founder has the solution for reparations and long time systemic racism.

    Justice for George Floyd is far from the only thing needed the achieve racial equality in the United States, according to BET founder Robert Johnson.

    Johnson also believes that the federal government should pay $14 trillion in reparations to black Americans to atone for centuries of systemic racism, Johnson said in a statement published Monday. (Johnson's statement didn't include specific information about where the funds for reparations would come from.) The payments would be the "affirmative action program of all time," and would prevent the country from splitting into two unequal societies, Johnson said during an appearance on CNBC's Squawk Box Monday.



    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/bet-founder-robert-johnson-slavery-reparations-george-floyd-murder-protests-2020-6?amp


  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,609 Standard Supporter
    SECDAWG said:

    Meanwhile, the nations first black billionaire, BET TV founder has the solution for reparations and long time systemic racism.

    Justice for George Floyd is far from the only thing needed the achieve racial equality in the United States, according to BET founder Robert Johnson.

    Johnson also believes that the federal government should pay $14 trillion in reparations to black Americans to atone for centuries of systemic racism, Johnson said in a statement published Monday. (Johnson's statement didn't include specific information about where the funds for reparations would come from.) The payments would be the "affirmative action program of all time," and would prevent the country from splitting into two unequal societies, Johnson said during an appearance on CNBC's Squawk Box Monday.



    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/bet-founder-robert-johnson-slavery-reparations-george-floyd-murder-protests-2020-6?amp


    How much should the blacks pay the 650k dead whites that died freeing then in the civil war? Asking for a friend.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,896
    edited June 2020

    But the question still remains, why are black men disproportionately abandoning their families, even when economic status is held constant?

    Is it something inherent in black culture? Is it some form of institutionalized oppression? Does the latter influence the former? And furthermore, regardless of what you see the cause being, how the fuck do we fix it?
    I think it has more to do with there never being a family in the first place. Meaning Papa wasn’t just a rolling stone. He was never known to be in many instances of a 1 parent household.
  • DodgyBlokeDodgyBloke Member Posts: 957

    First of all the overwhelming majority of all school shooters are either killed during the shooting or commit suicide. The Florida school shooter is still awaiting trial in prison not a mental hospital.

    Kip Kinkel is in prison for the rest of his life, not a mental institution. You're full of shit.
    Some kid in Colorado was found insane. But he hardly “got off”.

    The problem Dodgy has is he makes a decent point, then fucks it up with cheery picked anecdotal data and hyperbole.

    As far as calling cops on people for dumb stuff, it happens quite often to everyone. Especially in the age of Karen. But most “victims” assume the person is an asshole doesn’t call the press. I said before in this thread maybe white privilege is when someone is being a dick to you, you have the privilege to assume the person is a dick rather than a racist.

    I’ll be wrong if I’m wrong I don’t have a problem saying that. What I am saying is you can’t deny white people are treated better than black people in this country. But what isn’t logic and statistics is there is a portion of our community that is hurting and it is clear that they are. I will go to them because it is more important to me that they as humans are heard and action is taken rather relying on statistics from 2012-2015.. I can get over myself long enough to make sure a fellow human can heal. Us as humans for some reason love to use logistical deductive reasoning to place a narrative and title to someone’s story rather than listen and understand. All I am saying is if you flip it and it’s a white person protest because of racism I would hope that the African Americans and other races would come around me for support. But I don’t have to I can turn this off, I can leave our discussion and kick back and watch a movie and disregard what is happening in the world, and I know you’re not racist and this board we like to fuck around and play devil advocate and the like. I don’t give a shit what motives are had there will be some who use it for attention and some who will be genuine but this culture and generation is so use to be fake and being something we are now online that we can smell unauthentic people from a mile away so I’m not worried about that. What I am worried about is it seems that what was fought for in the 60s still seems to be fought for in 2020 and as evolved as we should be by now it’s sad.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,994 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Dispatcher isn't a cop. The "cops" never told him to do shit. And he actually did "break off" after the "cop" told him he didn't need to follow.

    You're pulling claims out of your ass.
    Dispatcher works for and in tandem with, the cops, Ass-Hair-Splitter.

    Zimmerman provoked the entire thing. I'd have wanted to kick that pudgy faggots ass, too.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    Some kid in Colorado was found insane. But he hardly “got off”.

    The problem Dodgy has is he makes a decent point, then fucks it up with cheery picked anecdotal data and hyperbole.

    As far as calling cops on people for dumb stuff, it happens quite often to everyone. Especially in the age of Karen. But most “victims” assume the person is an asshole doesn’t call the press. I said before in this thread maybe white privilege is when someone is being a dick to you, you have the privilege to assume the person is a dick rather than a racist.
    I’ll be wrong if I’m wrong I don’t have a problem saying that. What I am saying is you can’t deny white people are treated better than black people in this country. But what isn’t logic and statistics is there is a portion of our community that is hurting and it is clear that they are. I will go to them because it is more important to me that they as humans are heard and action is taken rather relying on statistics from 2012-2015.. I can get over myself long enough to make sure a fellow human can heal. Us as humans for some reason love to use logistical deductive reasoning to place a narrative and title to someone’s story rather than listen and understand. All I am saying is if you flip it and it’s a white person protest because of racism I would hope that the African Americans and other races would come around me for support. But I don’t have to I can turn this off, I can leave our discussion and kick back and watch a movie and disregard what is happening in the world, and I know you’re not racist and this board we like to fuck around and play devil advocate and the like. I don’t give a shit what motives are had there will be some who use it for attention and some who will be genuine but this culture and generation is so use to be fake and being something we are now online that we can smell unauthentic people from a mile away so I’m not worried about that. What I am worried about is it seems that what was fought for in the 60s still seems to be fought for in 2020 and as evolved as we should be by now it’s sad.

    Translation: Never mind that everything I said about white males who engage in mass shootings was pure bullshit, let me lay on you another raft of dishonest and barely coherent gibberish.





  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    Dispatcher works for and in tandem with, the cops, Ass-Hair-Splitter.

    Zimmerman provoked the entire thing. I'd have wanted to kick that pudgy faggots ass, too.
    Non-emergency phone operator isn't the "cops" and doesn't have the authority of the "cops" which was the reason why you brought it up in the first place. You also conveniently omit that Zimmerman did stop running after Trademark after the phone call. How many times would you allow me to smash your head against the sidewalk before you responded with lethal force?
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,994 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Non-emergency phone operator isn't the "cops" and doesn't have the authority of the "cops" which was the reason why you brought it up in the first place. You also conveniently omit that Zimmerman did stop running after Trademark after the phone call. How many times would you allow me to smash your head against the sidewalk before you responded with lethal force?
    Most people would take the early hint and fuck off, instead of stalking a teenager like a pedophile.

    The Trayvon case is textbook racial profiling, period. Argue all you want about Poor Georgie who, once again, provoked the encounter by stalking the kid like a creepy asshole.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Some kid in Colorado was found insane. But he hardly “got off”.

    The problem Dodgy has is he makes a decent point, then fucks it up with cheery picked anecdotal data and hyperbole.

    As far as calling cops on people for dumb stuff, it happens quite often to everyone. Especially in the age of Karen. But most “victims” assume the person is an asshole doesn’t call the press. I said before in this thread maybe white privilege is when someone is being a dick to you, you have the privilege to assume the person is a dick rather than a racist.
    I’ll be wrong if I’m wrong I don’t have a problem saying that. What I am saying is you can’t deny white people are treated better than black people in this country. But what isn’t logic and statistics is there is a portion of our community that is hurting and it is clear that they are. I will go to them because it is more important to me that they as humans are heard and action is taken rather relying on statistics from 2012-2015.. I can get over myself long enough to make sure a fellow human can heal. Us as humans for some reason love to use logistical deductive reasoning to place a narrative and title to someone’s story rather than listen and understand. All I am saying is if you flip it and it’s a white person protest because of racism I would hope that the African Americans and other races would come around me for support. But I don’t have to I can turn this off, I can leave our discussion and kick back and watch a movie and disregard what is happening in the world, and I know you’re not racist and this board we like to fuck around and play devil advocate and the like. I don’t give a shit what motives are had there will be some who use it for attention and some who will be genuine but this culture and generation is so use to be fake and being something we are now online that we can smell unauthentic people from a mile away so I’m not worried about that. What I am worried about is it seems that what was fought for in the 60s still seems to be fought for in 2020 and as evolved as we should be by now it’s sad.

    So not countless white school mass shooters getting off because the are mentally ill?
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