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Tommy was this an act of racism?
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Like I said, I wasn't there, don't appreciate the context, and thus offered no commentary on the origins of this.
My response was to the logic by Dumbo that anyone who reacts to someone calling a black guy a chimp or other historically loaded term is somehow themselves racist because "association", which is ostensibly disingenuous and retarded. As if such terms had no history as applied to a particular group. Call me a "Mick" and all you're doing is confusing me. Say it to a guy in Dublin and you have a whole different encounter.
I've not observed you to be a racist person here, and that was before knowing you're married to a black woman. About the only person I have observed to truly reveal some questionable views on people not like himself is our favorite banana conspiracy theorist. Otherwise, it's not a charge I throw around lightly. -
And that's the problem, made worse by people of your ilk, @ThomasFremont. It's different because you want it to be different.ThomasFremont said:
W getting called a chimp has a totally different connotation than when you say the same thing to a black man.SFGbob said:
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?creepycoug said:
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.NorthwestFresh said:
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.creepycoug said:
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.NorthwestFresh said:
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!HHusky said:This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
Your feigned ignorance of this is fooling nobody. -
I have black friends so I can't be a racist POTDSFGbob said:
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?creepycoug said:
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.NorthwestFresh said:
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.creepycoug said:
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.NorthwestFresh said:
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!HHusky said:This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this. -
Yes, "wolf." You know, the furry things that look like giant Huskies, run around in the woods, kill and eat cows and chickens...Yup, those things.ThomasFremont said:
Cried wolf?TurdBomber said:
Tommy, you've cried wolf one too many times to be taken seriously when you throw "racism" or "murder" around.ThomasFremont said:
A judge passing a sentence isn’t a crime. Murder is.SFGbob said:
Kunt logic is there anything it can't do?ThomasFremont said:Did anyone get murdered?
Other than that, great comparison.
So racism can only be detected if someone is murdered and the race of the preps is white and the victim is black.
Other than that, you’re doing great!
And you did it to yourself.
You keep saying they are attacking the sheep without any evidence to support it. So yes, your allegations of "isms" are met with "Meh." -
Trite as usual, @insinceredawg.insinceredawg said:
I have black friends so I can't be a racist POTDSFGbob said:
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?creepycoug said:
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.NorthwestFresh said:
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.creepycoug said:
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.NorthwestFresh said:
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!HHusky said:This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
Be a better poaster. It starts with effort, you lazy fuck. -
Yes, it is MY fault that people used to own black people as slaves and thought of them as subhuman.TurdBomber said:
And that's the problem, made worse by people of your ilk, @ThomasFremont. It's different because you want it to be different.ThomasFremont said:
W getting called a chimp has a totally different connotation than when you say the same thing to a black man.SFGbob said:
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?creepycoug said:
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.NorthwestFresh said:
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.creepycoug said:
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.NorthwestFresh said:
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!HHusky said:This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
Your feigned ignorance of this is fooling nobody.
It’s also MY fault that some (albeit fewer) still think that way and use the language of those times.
What kind of retarded reverse racism argument you gonna come up with next? -
Yes tommy, those little crazy voices in your head? You own em, buddy.
All your fault! -
Well yeah. You pine for slaves and the good old days constantlyThomasFremont said:
Yes, it is MY fault that people used to own black people as slaves and thought of them as subhuman.TurdBomber said:
And that's the problem, made worse by people of your ilk, @ThomasFremont. It's different because you want it to be different.ThomasFremont said:
W getting called a chimp has a totally different connotation than when you say the same thing to a black man.SFGbob said:
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?creepycoug said:
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.NorthwestFresh said:
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.creepycoug said:
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.NorthwestFresh said:
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!HHusky said:This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
Your feigned ignorance of this is fooling nobody.
It’s also MY fault that some (albeit fewer) still think that way and use the language of those times.
What kind of retarded reverse racism argument you gonna come up with next? -
ConstantlyPitchfork51 said:
Well yeah. You pine for slaves and the good old days constantlyThomasFremont said:
Yes, it is MY fault that people used to own black people as slaves and thought of them as subhuman.TurdBomber said:
And that's the problem, made worse by people of your ilk, @ThomasFremont. It's different because you want it to be different.ThomasFremont said:
W getting called a chimp has a totally different connotation than when you say the same thing to a black man.SFGbob said:
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?creepycoug said:
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.NorthwestFresh said:
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.creepycoug said:
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.NorthwestFresh said:
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!HHusky said:This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
Your feigned ignorance of this is fooling nobody.
It’s also MY fault that some (albeit fewer) still think that way and use the language of those times.
What kind of retarded reverse racism argument you gonna come up with next? -
Yeah because that's just like having a black wife and three black kids. Stick to swallowing like a bitch Russia collusion bullshit IC, you suck at everything else.insinceredawg said:
I have black friends so I can't be a racist POTDSFGbob said:
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?creepycoug said:
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.NorthwestFresh said:
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.creepycoug said:
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.NorthwestFresh said:
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!HHusky said:This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
This is where you post your lie that I pushed Pizzagate.
